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Re: Re: Safari
Thanks for the tip. Can you provide more info on this. I admit that I dislike the Help system. I am an old fart that is used to manuals. Hopefully there will be one soon for OS X 10.3x.
Thanks for the tip. Can you provide more info on this. I admit that I dislike the Help system. I am an old fart that is used to manuals. Hopefully there will be one soon for OS X 10.3x.
Photorun wrote:
I voted negative because
a) I don't like the "Ability to 'tab' to form elements (buttons, checkboxes, submit buttons)" and am disappointed this isn't an option;
b) this looks like another Safari upgrade that won't be available for Jaguar.
That do you?
I voted negative because
a) I don't like the "Ability to 'tab' to form elements (buttons, checkboxes, submit buttons)" and am disappointed this isn't an option;
b) this looks like another Safari upgrade that won't be available for Jaguar.
That do you?
Re: $49
What? Did i miss something?
Originally posted by d_p
I can't believe Apple is charging $49 for an update that shoudl be free!!!
What? Did i miss something?
Re: Re: Re: Safari is SLOWWWWW
I don't buy that. One could take that same logic and say that when your computer crashes it's not the OSes fault but the fault of a bad program. But I disagree. A good OS should handle a bad program gracefully and a good browser should handle a bad site gracefully.
I don't buy that. One could take that same logic and say that when your computer crashes it's not the OSes fault but the fault of a bad program. But I disagree. A good OS should handle a bad program gracefully and a good browser should handle a bad site gracefully.
Re: $49
What are you talking about?Originally posted by d_p
I can't believe Apple is charging $49 for an update that shoudl be free!!!
Debug menu
I have my debug menu enabled, and I like it because it gives you the option to "open page with" and then a choice of your other browsers. I did a google search for "enable debug menu safari" and i got instructions on how to do this in terminal. I'm an extreme novice in terminal, but I was able to do it...
I have my debug menu enabled, and I like it because it gives you the option to "open page with" and then a choice of your other browsers. I did a google search for "enable debug menu safari" and i got instructions on how to do this in terminal. I'm an extreme novice in terminal, but I was able to do it...
I wish a pref let you turn "in new window" links into "new tab" links. I know you can command-click, but only AFTER you know a new window was going to pop open. Rather than watch the status bar and manually decide when to hit command, I'd just like all "new window" links to go automatically into a new tab.
Anyway, the new stuff sounds good! Especially resuming downloads. That's all I still use IE for.
Anyway, the new stuff sounds good! Especially resuming downloads. That's all I still use IE for.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Safari is SLOWWWWW
The OS does handle a bad program gracefully it allows the program to crash and quit without affecting any other running programs.
The OS does handle a bad program gracefully it allows the program to crash and quit without affecting any other running programs.
So everyone is supposed to read your mind when you vote negative about the story and don't leave a comment?
Your voting negative on tabbing to form elements because you don't have the option to turn it off?
The feature isn't even released yet how do you know that you won't have an option to turn it on or off?
If you want new features then you should update. Apple shouldn't have to put resources into adding features to old systems. The system still works fine and they still release security updates for it. I don't expect Toyota to add a new updated stereo to my Corolla when they come out with a new updated model. When was the last time Microsoft added features to Windows 98?
Yay, finally a good rumor.
It's been a long drought
Safari improvements look cool. I am especially excited about opening links from other apps in current window, in new tab. I have a big monitor and every window in its place. When a new safari window opens, it messes with my mojo. Tabs are great, good stuff!
It's been a long drought
Safari improvements look cool. I am especially excited about opening links from other apps in current window, in new tab. I have a big monitor and every window in its place. When a new safari window opens, it messes with my mojo. Tabs are great, good stuff!
Re: 64 Bit OSX - When?
I wouldn't count on a 64-bit OS for atleast 5 years IMO. Apple needs to purge all non-64-bit(sub-G5) hardware from their product lineup first, and then probably a few more years of support for people who don't upgrade often.
AFAIK there really isn't any need for the whole OS to be 64-bit as most of what the OS does doesn't come close to needing it, there are currently not very many apps at all(any?) that even need it.
And I wouldn't expect a G6 for a while still either.
I wouldn't count on a 64-bit OS for atleast 5 years IMO. Apple needs to purge all non-64-bit(sub-G5) hardware from their product lineup first, and then probably a few more years of support for people who don't upgrade often.
AFAIK there really isn't any need for the whole OS to be 64-bit as most of what the OS does doesn't come close to needing it, there are currently not very many apps at all(any?) that even need it.
And I wouldn't expect a G6 for a while still either.
Re: Re: Re: Safari
Maintain also has the debug menu too, plus maintain is a kick-ass free app to keep you Mac fresh.
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Maintain also has the debug menu too, plus maintain is a kick-ass free app to keep you Mac fresh.
Windows 98 users were getting updates to Internet Explorer for quite some time after Windows ME was released. I think it is perfectly reasonable to be able to update the web browser independently of the OS. The web browser is NOT a special feature of the system, it is a program, and if Apple expects users to actually use their browser for anything other than downloading a different one, they need to keep it up to date.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Safari is SLOWWWWW
The point was that one could use the same logic to argue that Windows is stable because it's only bad programs that cause it to crash. But a good OS should handle bad programs....just like a good browser should not crash and close my 10 perfectly fine windows just because one site has bad Flash code or something.
The point was that one could use the same logic to argue that Windows is stable because it's only bad programs that cause it to crash. But a good OS should handle bad programs....just like a good browser should not crash and close my 10 perfectly fine windows just because one site has bad Flash code or something.
Re: Look down!
You have to display the status bar. Although I am on an OS 9 machine now I think the statuys bar is under the view options in Safari. Once diplayed, you can mouse over links and it will appear on the bottom.
You have to display the status bar. Although I am on an OS 9 machine now I think the statuys bar is under the view options in Safari. Once diplayed, you can mouse over links and it will appear on the bottom.
my biggest problem with safari is that the tabs "x" doesnt always work. i have to click the "x" 5 or 6 times just to close a tab.
Re: Re: 64 Bit OSX - When?
In 5 years we should be closing in on OS 11 or whatever it is called. Currently Aqua stresses some systems. 64-bit will be a requirement for more complex applications, and those complex applications will soon become the operating system. Expand your imagination because the power of applications is far behind the power of the hardware it runs on. Apple is trying to create software that leaves your processor maxed out. I think this is the way to go with software. There is currently too much hardware power going to waste, and 64-bit processors create an even bigger margin. I certainly hope that when the MacOS goes to 64-bit that it will go 64-bit for a reason. I believe they have had to tone down OS X's graphic system because of slower hardware. This is a good thing! Who wants to play atari all the time when we can have GameCubes?
Originally posted by beg_ne
I wouldn't count on a 64-bit OS for atleast 5 years IMO. Apple needs to purge all non-64-bit(sub-G5) hardware from their product lineup first, and then probably a few more years of support for people who don't upgrade often.
AFAIK there really isn't any need for the whole OS to be 64-bit as most of what the OS does doesn't come close to needing it, there are currently not very many apps at all(any?) that even need it.
And I wouldn't expect a G6 for a while still either.
In 5 years we should be closing in on OS 11 or whatever it is called. Currently Aqua stresses some systems. 64-bit will be a requirement for more complex applications, and those complex applications will soon become the operating system. Expand your imagination because the power of applications is far behind the power of the hardware it runs on. Apple is trying to create software that leaves your processor maxed out. I think this is the way to go with software. There is currently too much hardware power going to waste, and 64-bit processors create an even bigger margin. I certainly hope that when the MacOS goes to 64-bit that it will go 64-bit for a reason. I believe they have had to tone down OS X's graphic system because of slower hardware. This is a good thing! Who wants to play atari all the time when we can have GameCubes?
Re: 64 Bit OSX - When?
Second, if you read other threads about Mac OS X and 64 bits you would find out the OS doesn't need to be 64 bit, it just needs to be able to handle the larger memory space (Panther already does that) and handle programs that are 64bit.
Not all applications benefit from being recompiled as a 64bit application.
First of all, the 3GHz proc will most likely still be called a G5 by Apple.
Second, if you read other threads about Mac OS X and 64 bits you would find out the OS doesn't need to be 64 bit, it just needs to be able to handle the larger memory space (Panther already does that) and handle programs that are 64bit.
Not all applications benefit from being recompiled as a 64bit application.