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Mac OS X 10.3.3 (7F24) and Safari 1.2 Seeded

Ayup

My only concerns with Safari:

1. Java problems.

2. Tabbing with forms.

3. Memory Issues.

Hope this fixes them.

I don't touch a Microsoft product unless I have to.
 
Originally posted by dwsolberg
I'm most excited about the network browsing. Hopefully, they change it back to the way it was in 10.2.x.

(In 10.3.x you need to browse through the Finder to load a server. Then you CAN'T disconnect easily except by shutting off the computer. That's bad for us 'book users. The only current way around this is knowing the direct IP address of the server.)
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You can disconect simply by dragging the network name into the trash.
 
Yes! seems like Apple was trying to emulate windows networking (ugh) in Panther.. Now we have to know the server address, password, etc, and can't save that info.. so each time we must log the info in manually. Annoying and time consuming, where as in Jag, all the info was stored and we could browse easily.


Originally posted by dwsolberg
I'm most excited about the network browsing. Hopefully, they change it back to the way it was in 10.2.x.

(In 10.3.x you need to browse through the Finder to load a server. Then you CAN'T disconnect easily except by shutting off the computer. That's bad for us 'book users. The only current way around this is knowing the direct IP address of the server.)
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Tabing to the rescue

Thank God, the only real thing that I miss about Win IE is the tabing to form elements. This really made my day!

:D
 
Re: Safari

Originally posted by Doozer
2 reasons I'm still hanging on to Explorer and not using Safari:

1. Compatibility with my bank's website (can't access the site using Safari)
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Enable the Debug menu and change the User Agent to MS IE. This emulates explorer and should allow you to access your bank site, because the site will think you're using IE.
 
Re: Re: Safari is SLOWWWWW

Safari crashes for me every 2-3 days, and I send the bug report like a good user.. From what I get in the code in the report, it's not actually Safari's "fault" for the crash, it's the code on the site I was visiting.

Site's in question have bad, or malformed code (see Hyatt's blog).. It's like Safari is speaking the Queen's English and these sites (coded in windows) are speaking Jive.. So when the two meet, Safari is utterly confused.

David (Hyatt) is completely right about this.. So he's got to teach safari Jive, which he doesn't want to do (and why should he obviously) until there's a better solution (i.e. XML - the non-M$ version ;-) )


Originally posted by ITR 81
3 revisions?

I only remember two except for that security update.

Safari only crashes on me or freezes is during some Java events..
Never had a slow down or memory issue.

But I do welcome all updates.

If you want to read up on the details Safari updates go here:
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/index.html
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Originally posted by jvaska
how long does it generallly take a "seed" before it released to the public?
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That depends entirely on the seed. There really are very few 'typical' times from first seed to release, so I don't think anyone even wants to hazard a guess...
 
Re: Re: Safari

To easily enable the debug menu, use Safari Enhancer: Safari Enhancer

After installation there will be a new drop down menu on the far right in safari.. from there, you can bastardize to M$IE ;-)

Originally posted by dukemeiser
Enable the Debug menu and change the User Agent to MS IE. This emulates explorer and should allow you to access your bank site, because the site will think you're using IE.
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Re: Re: Safari

Originally posted by dukemeiser
Enable the Debug menu and change the User Agent to MS IE. This emulates explorer and should allow you to access your bank site, because the site will think you're using IE.
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This would rock, how though do I "Enable the debug menu"

Thanks in advance
 
Re: Ayup

Originally posted by garybooberry
My only concerns with Safari:

1. Java problems.

2. Tabbing with forms.

3. Memory Issues.

Hope this fixes them.

I don't touch a Microsoft product unless I have to.
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Would be curious to see if others have the same problem I am having with Safari (1.1).

Go to U2's website (www.U2.com) and choose the flash version of their site. Does all of the navigation and info fully load in Safari for you? I can never get this to work and have to switch back to IE, where it does work with no probs.

Anyway.....
 
Originally posted by sethypoo
Personal cursors, sounds like fun!

So how soon untill we might get it?
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I don't think that is the meaning of custom cursors. In CSS, you can specify cursor: default (for the pointer), move, help, text, and a few others. Currently Safari doesn't support these, which is a total PITA for certain applications.
 
Re: Re: Ayup

Sorry, it craps out for me in Safari as well. I looked at it in IE too just to be sure I understood what you were talking about...

Originally posted by mainemike
Would be curious to see if others have the same problem I am having with Safari (1.1).

Go to U2's website (www.U2.com) and choose the flash version of their site. Does all of the navigation and info fully load in Safari for you? I can never get this to work and have to switch back to IE, where it does work with no probs.

Anyway.....
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64 Bit OSX - When?

Can all of this work be ported over to a 64bit OSX?

When will we have a true 64bit OS?

(I am buying the (g6) in June with the 3ghz chip)

I would guess, every product would have to use the g5 or better... (next June 1.5 years from now???)

But anyhow... is apple building a 64bit os independent of the work they do now, or is there some way they can port over the current panther, tiger etc?

thanx
-mike
 
What about Faxing!

I'd like to see the faxing feature fixed. I've heard a lot of bugs about that, and I've experienced a few bugs myself, such as when I try to send it does seem to fax the document but it won't hang up the line until it times out five or ten minutes later.

Some additional fax "features" would be nice, like the ability to save copies of outgoing faxes, fax logging, alert of incoming faxes, etc.
 
Re: Re: Ayup

Originally posted by mainemike
Would be curious to see if others have the same problem I am having with Safari (1.1).

Go to U2's website (www.U2.com) and choose the flash version of their site. Does all of the navigation and info fully load in Safari for you? I can never get this to work and have to switch back to IE, where it does work with no probs.

Anyway.....
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Actually, their site doesn't work well in anything aside from IE. I find that sort of amusing, since they use Macs and all. Hopefully they'll have a new site soon that won't have the problem, but the current problems really aren't Safari's fault.
 
Originally posted by sabbath999
what on earth are you talking about ? :)
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There were threads here that were evidently incomplete. They did not connect until i took the the link to IE Mac. I would assume that if there is a link her in the forums that it would be Safari compatible.

My apologies if I though wrong.
 
10.3.3 and PowerMac Updates? (Theory)

We've all been awaiting the long anticipated speed bumps to the PowerMac G5s, well, here's my theory on it all.

My guess is that, along with the mentioned additions to 10.3.3, there may very well be the addition of 8x DVD burning support. Pioneer, the makers of the SuperDrive, have just recently released a new 8x DVD+R/-R/+RW/-RW Drive. If Apple really wanted to make a speed bumped G5 appealing to people with current PowerMac G5s, the thought of 8x DVD Burning would definitely do so (for me, at least).

My thoughts would be that Apple may finally release updated PowerMacs once Panther 10.3.3 and Safari 1.2 have come out. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple did include a new "8x SuperDrive" with the PowerMac update, since they usually like to be on top of all the new technologies.

After reading an article concerning new AGP cards from ATI, it also seems likely that newer video cards could be making appearances. For example, Mac Editions of the new Radeon 9600 and 9800 XT graphics cards. Bringing high quality, 8x AGP cards with up to 256mb of video memory would also be a factor that could make current G5 users consider updating their machines to a newer G5. Better graphics capabilities would also start to draw gamers to Macs, since Apple computers have been rather lacking in that area compared to some of the high-end PC graphics cards.

In general, I wouldn't be surprised if any of these may be reasons for the delay in updates. The addition of 8x DVD Burning would be a welcomed addition to new G5s. Newer video cards would also draw people to the machines.

Whatever Apple is planning, the speed bumps need to come soon so people like myself can stop going insane waiting for the updates so we can replace our G4s.
 
Originally posted by Counterfit
Chip: yeah you can say SOB, but I don't see anything to cry about :p
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Like I said in the previous post, if there is a link her in the forums i expect it to work. As a OS X newbie if I am missing something PLEASE let me know. I last used Mac under 8.x.
 
Originally posted by dwsolberg
I'm most excited about the network browsing. Hopefully, they change it back to the way it was in 10.2.x.

(In 10.3.x you need to browse through the Finder to load a server. Then you CAN'T disconnect easily except by shutting off the computer. That's bad for us 'book users. The only current way around this is knowing the direct IP address of the server.)
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I agree! Sometimes when I get home and wake my TiBook up it seems to freeze up for a while (not completely, but within a couple of degrees of freezing!) until it figures out I am not connected to work computers any more. I know the IP addresses because I also use Red Hat on another computer, but I shouldn't have to know these things using a Mac.
 
Look down!

Originally posted by Doozer
2 reasons I'm still hanging on to Explorer and not using Safari:

1. Compatibility with my bank's website (can't access the site using Safari)
2. Mousing-over links in Safari does not give you a way to see where you will be taken (i.e., in Explorer, when you mouse-over a link, the URL or mailto link is displayed at the bottom of the window so you know if you're going to leave the site you're viewing or just go to another section).

...or am I missing something in Safari that solves those issues?
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I think you're missing something about number 2. Hover over a link and look at the bottom of Safari's window. The URL should be there beside "Go to."
 
Re: what the hell?

Originally posted by jaredbbauer
DUDE are you OK? What in the world are you talking about?
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There have been multiple threads here about a kid that got a G5 for Xmas and ripped the guts out to put an AMD motherboard in (didn't do a search for the threads for reference, but they are there.

Some of the threads had links that when i clicked on them said that the server was not found or some sort of garbage like that.

To be honest as a newbie if i am missing something in my Safaris setting please let me know. i really hate starting up IE Mac to view sites.
 
Originally posted by jettredmont
You have always been able to middle-click on a link to have it open in a new tab (or right-click, select open in a new tab, or option-click I think).

However, is another application, like, say, Mail, tells Safari to open a link (ie, you click on a link in Mail), it always opens in a new window, never in a tab off the current window.

The latest build apparently allows the user to set a preference so that all requests from other apps go into a new tab on the current window instead.............
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Actually the current version does open a link from a different application in the same window in a new tab if.... You have tabbed browsing turned on and you select open links from applications in the current window.

I have it set this way and it always opens a new tab in the same window when clicking links in Mail or any other app.
 
Re: Safari

Originally posted by Doozer
2 reasons I'm still hanging on to Explorer and not using Safari:

1. Compatibility with my bank's website (can't access the site using Safari)
2. Mousing-over links in Safari does not give you a way to see where you will be taken (i.e., in Explorer, when you mouse-over a link, the URL or mailto link is displayed at the bottom of the window so you know if you're going to leave the site you're viewing or just go to another section).

...or am I missing something in Safari that solves those issues?
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Amen to that!

i work in advertising. The paer is moving towards E-Tearsheets. Guess what? Their system won't recognize my Safari browser!

Like i told them what happens now that M$ has stopped further development of the IE Mac browser? Do i have to maintain a Windows machine?
 
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