Mac OS X 10.3.5 Now Available

[stcanard]

You are naturally right. I would find it simply a bit awkward, having 10.3.1 as well as 10.3.10. I can't remember having seen any software with a version number like this (x.10).

Especially is you remember the olden days when the part after the decimal was really treated like a decimal, so release order would be:

10.1
10.2
10.21
10.3

I still get tripped up sometimes when reading version numbers. Of course the newfangled way of calling it 10.2.1 it much easier to understand.

 

[mkrishnan]

I just checked the Bluetooth preferences on 10.3.5 and it doesn't have the remote control function option for my Sony Ericsson T68i. So I'll just have to continue using Salling Clicker.

While I'm here, does anyone know why the bluetooth connection between my phone and PB drops off so easily?

It doesn't work on the Nokia 3650 either. I think the new phones from S-E must have some special software -- it sounds like they have a built in "remote" application. I wonder if its a cross-company standard, or something that's only going to work in MacOS for Sony phones?

As for the drop-offs...I have a weird experience too. When I iSync, the phone has to be very close to the computer to work. In contrast, when I use it as a cell modem, it can be sitting several feet away inside a bag.

 

[VicMacs]

Not so great for me. Installed the update, shutdown and then turn it on. I got the usual grey apple with the spinning thing underneath for awhile. Then, the grey apple turned into a grey "do not enter sign". Held the power then rebooted. Same thing. Opened the cd tray with a pin and stared with it open, worked fine... weird.

I've got an iBook G3/800Mgz/14"/Combo Drive

um... installed, restarted, put to sleep, on wakeup it looked like a messsed up TV .... i dont know what happenned there.... restarted and its fine... im scared...

ibook g3 800 14"

 

[GeorgeTheMonkey]

Excellent...!

Bluetooth File Exchange finally works seamlessly with my Sony Ericsson K700i - including the clever little Remote Control functionality -

However iSync still doesn't see the phone -

That's completely groovy! George is a very happy monkey -- I actually just ordered a K700 right before this update! Now to think that I can move my cursor around the screen with my CELL PHONE, that's a too cool thought.

On top of this cool OS X update, dude, Jonas Salling just released a free version of their remote software, just for the K700 and S700.

As for iSync, I can't be positive until I get mine in the mail, but I've heard that to initially pair the cell phone and your computer, you actually have to initiate pairing on one, then right after initiate pairing on the other. Fiddle with it that way -- others have been able to successfully get iSync and their K700 to share the sandbox and play together.

 

[wdlove]

um... installed, restarted, put to sleep, on wakeup it looked like a messsed up TV .... i dont know what happenned there.... restarted and its fine... im scared...

ibook g3 800 14"

You should try running Repair Permissons located in Applications > Utilities. I ran it on my G4 and so far so good.

 

[VicMacs]

I just checked the Bluetooth preferences on 10.3.5 and it doesn't have the remote control function option for my Sony Ericsson T68i. So I'll just have to continue using Salling Clicker.

While I'm here, does anyone know why the bluetooth connection between my phone and PB drops off so easily?

use romeo dude

 

[VicMacs]

You should try running Repair Permissons located in Applications > Utilities. I ran it on my G4 and so far so good.

never heard of it... is it an app? or a system tool or function?

thanks... I recently sent the ibbok for a motherboard excahnge... it went dead on me.. thank god for the apple extended warranties on these faulty ibooks

 

[seamuskrat]

Actually, you want DISK UTILITY launch this (located in utilities folder) and then repair permissions.

You can also use third party utilities like Panther Cache Cleaner, Cocktail, Xupprt. Bu the DU app works fine for this.

never heard of it... is it an app? or a system tool or function?

thanks... I recently sent the ibbok for a motherboard excahnge... it went dead on me.. thank god for the apple extended warranties on these faulty ibooks

 

[Wendy_Rebecca]

What a jerk

You should be repairing your permissions BEFORE and AFTER you do any kind of OS Update. This is why you probably experienced so many repairs. Not repairing permissions before you apply the update is the reason a lot of people experience trouble after applying the update. Then of course, the idiots blame Apple when it was the users fault!

That may be the most ridiculous thing I've read all day. You sound like a typical Mac Zealot that blames the user because Apple can do no wrong.

If repairing permissions is so critical to a successful install routine, Apple should advise the user to do so, or should incorporate it into the installer itself. Calling someone an "idiot" because they expect a software install to work as advertised without incident is, in itself, idiotic.

 

[donniedarko]

Fan more active since install

I run a 17" 1.33 pb...installed 10.3.5 update, security update, did disk permissions, (with only issues with iphoto). My fan is more active....? considerably, what gives?

 

[hype.it]

I just updated my system without running crons and everything is working just sweet...

Then again, if you leave your system on over night and every night, you need not manually repair permissions and run the crons daily/weekly or monthly tasks. The kernel will automatically do it for you. He's posted it because not everyone leaves their system running over night. I guess most users will put their system to sleep or physically shut it down, dunno know why.

Question: Do you unplug and power-down your fridge freezer on a nightly basis too? Imagine, you can save tones of electric, if you think your Mac is eating a hole in your pocket.

I have and run 4 Mac systems here, they all stay on, every night of everyday of every month. No expense is spent on saving power! The displays are left on, while burning up the liquid crystals and illuminating my whole apartment. They say a TFT will last 5-7 years.... let see...

 

[ZildjianKX]

Question: Do you unplug and power-down your fridge freezer on a nightly basis too? Imagine, you can save tones of electric, if you think your Mac is eating a hole in your pocket.

I have and run 4 Mac systems here, they all stay on, every night of everyday of every month. No expense is spent on saving power! The displays are left on, while burning up the liquid crystals and illuminating my whole apartment. They say a TFT will last 5-7 years.... let see...

Does the pump in your fridge/freezer run all night?

At least pretend like you care about the environment.

 

[MacPhreak]

Only problem I've had so far is that Finder crashes every second time I drag-n-drop a photo onto Photoshop 7. (ie, first drag-n-drop goes fine, click on next file to drag, and Finder promptly crashes). Folder w/photos is on desktop, and Photoshop is nestled in its folder in Applications.

 

[CubaTBird]

New Finder Version

I don't know if this was posted earlier but the finder version is now 10.3.2. Click about Finder and you will notice it.

 

[gorkonapple]

You definitely SHOULDN'T have to repair permissions before and after every update. Repairing permissions once in a while should help avoid problems; while updates may change some minor permissions, unless it's an OS update, it's not really going to cause ANY problems for most people.

I repair permissions about once a month or less, and I usually install updates almost as soon as they come out. Even with the original 10.2.8, I've NEVER had update problems...

Yes. Also, I might add repairing them before updating isn't going to do anything but add work. Your installing the updates with root permissions....even if your just an admin user (it pops up the password box because the update most likely does a sudo su before running).

I also find it funny they even HAVE this as part of the disk util, but I guess I can see why (clueless users playing around with chmod and other UNIX commandline stuff....).

 

[Applespider]

OK...I was updating from 10.3.4. iSynch came up with a green tick, 10.3.5 came up with a exclamation mark, Security update came up with a tick. It got most of the way through optimising and then Software Update unexpectedly quit...

10.3.5 is still in the Software Update when I go into check but the other 2 have gone. Since the Security update was supposed to restart, should I rebuild permissions, restart PB and then download 10.3.5?

I'm just concerned that restarting might screw something up since Software Update didn't seem to complete. Suggestions?

 

[omala]

You are naturally right. I would find it simply a bit awkward, having 10.3.1 as well as 10.3.10. I can't remember having seen any software with a version number like this (x.10).

It happens, though - Linux for example (which is firmly a "release early, release often" project) is at 2.4.27 or 2.6.7, depending on which kernel you're running. Granted, for most commercial apps marketing departments get fussy if there's not a new major version released periodically, so the main version number gets bumped more often...

 

[Lancetx]

I run a 17" 1.33 pb...installed 10.3.5 update, security update, did disk permissions, (with only issues with iphoto). My fan is more active....? considerably, what gives?

I have the exact same PB as you and I've noticed the same thing. It's not exceedingly so, but the fan kicks on probably twice as often as it did before. Oh well, I could think of worse things that could have happened. At least it won't overheat now for sure.

 

[SeanMcg]

Haven't read through all the posts but...

I noticed that my 15" TiBook 1GHz is now driving my 17" CRT (as an extended desktop) without the occasional jump or flicker that was there before. This was a known issue, and the new drivers seem to have fixed the problem. My only complaint was that on my B&W G3, it reset the resolution to 800 x 600. Easily reset, but it would have been considerate to save that setting. NBD

 

[Rhumgod]

Did you all notice the Info.plist file?

Check it out

/System/Library/Extensions/AppleMacRISC4PE.kext/Contents/Info.plist

<key>IOPlatformPluginTable</key>
<dict>
<key>PowerBook7,1</key>
<string>SMU_Neo2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>PowerBook7,2</key>
<string>SMU_Neo2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>PowerMac7,2</key>
<string>PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>PowerMac7,3</key>
<string>PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>PowerMac8,1</key>
<string>SMU_Neo2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>PowerMac9,1</key>
<string>SMU_Neo2_PlatformPlugin</string>
<key>RackMac3,1</key>
<string>RackMac3_1_PlatformPlugin</string>



Now PowerBook7,1 PowerBook7,2 PowerMac8,1 (new iMac) and PowerMac9,1 (?) all get the SMU_Neo2 specs. Hmm, in 10.3.4 just the PowerMac8,1 had that spec.

Looks like we get a PowerTune G5 system for PowerBooks, iMacs and a new PowerMac, from what I can tell.

 

[titaniumducky]

I have the exact same PB as you and I've noticed the same thing. It's not exceedingly so, but the fan kicks on probably twice as often as it did before. Oh well, I could think of worse things that could have happened. At least it won't overheat now for sure.

It's probably not a bug; Apple did a similar thing in 10.3.2 for certain 12 inchers. Sometimes they reevaluate how hot they want to allow PowerBooks/iBooks to be; if they lower the setting for how hot the 'Book can be before fans come on, the fans come on more often after installing the latest OS update.

Don't worry about - it's for your PB's good. If it really bothers you, you can find the file that controls the fan's behavior from 10.3.4 and replace 10.3.5's. Someone else will have to help you with the exact file name/location, though, as I don't know.

 

[Lancetx]

It's probably not a bug; Apple did a similar thing in 10.3.2 for certain 12 inchers. Sometimes they reevaluate how hot they want to allow PowerBooks/iBooks to be; if they lower the setting for how hot the 'Book can be before fans come on, the fans come on more often after installing the latest OS update.

Don't worry about - it's for your PB's good. If it really bothers you, you can find the file that controls the fan's behavior from 10.3.4 and replace 10.3.5's. Someone else will have to help you with the exact file name/location, though, as I don't know.

Oh, it doesn't really bother me, it's not like it's constantly running or anything. I was just answering the earlier post to concur that he wasn't the only one that was happening to. I can certainly live with a little extra fan activity if it means the PowerBook doesn't run too hot.

 

[iGary]

Did the usual repair, etc., etc.

Installed.

Safari crashing frequently...

This is why I use my work machine as the guinea pig.

 

[SycloneMedia]

Finder Problem

MacPhreak, CubaTBird-

Yes, I have that problem with the finder... it will quit when you have a finder window open with "image preview" turned on for the icons. This is the same problem that they had in 10.3.2 (which was fixed in 10.3.3) and now is back. I checked the finder version and it coincidentally is 10.3.2 like you said... weird... why did the finder actually downgrade itself to a way back version? I wonder how many others are having this problem, because it's not so apparent at first until it actually quits on you... and yes there is this weird "TV scrambling" look on the screen for a split second when you occassionally wake from sleep.

 

[wwooden]

At first was weird, now seems fine.

After I installed the update and repaired permissions, my system ( 1Ghz 12" PB) seemed a little slower, applications were taking 5-6 bounces in the dock to open compared to only a couple before. I also noticed that BOTH my audio-in and audio-out were not working, my built in speakers and mic didn't even show up in system prefs. I restarted and everything seems to be working fine and at normal speed, go figure. I guess the system was just getting used to the update. I swear that sometimes computers have a mind of their own.