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Mac OS X 10.3.7 Update
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If anything, my computer's FASTER after the 10.3.7 update. I'm curious as to what you think might be causing the slowness you're experiencing.FangGang said:
wrldwzrd89 said:
Hi wrldwzrd89, just wanted to thank you for the input you gave me earlier & update you on my progress
I still get the generic icons when I download from Pixelgirl using Firefox, however, I decided to try downloading the icons using Safari & it works! I can only see the custom icons when I download them using Safari. Weird, huh? Prior to the 10.3.7 update, I was able to download icons just fine w/ Firefox (my preferred browser). Guess I'll just have to get used to using Safari.....
That is very odd indeed. I wonder if it's a Firefox bug (or a Stuffit Expander bug - try updating to version 9 and see if that helps any).vgurl said:Hi wrldwzrd89, just wanted to thank you for the input you gave me earlier & update you on my progress
I still get the generic icons when I download from Pixelgirl using Firefox, however, I decided to try downloading the icons using Safari & it works! I can only see the custom icons when I download them using Safari. Weird, huh? Prior to the 10.3.7 update, I was able to download icons just fine w/ Firefox (my preferred browser). Guess I'll just have to get used to using Safari.....
screen spanning patch?
Hi folks,
What, exactly, is the "screen spanning patch"?
Sounds interesting.....
-mk
Hi folks,
What, exactly, is the "screen spanning patch"?
Sounds interesting.....
-mk
OS X 10.1 to 10.3.7 upgrade
hi -- I'm new to this forum and not very techie, so was wondering if someone could help -- I am running OS X 10.3.7 on my new (august 2004) ibook, and my sister has an older imac (2002, I think) running 10.1 -- what does she need to do to get to 10.3.7 -- I tried to upgrade her via sofware updates in the apple icon...but it didn't work.
thanks!
hi -- I'm new to this forum and not very techie, so was wondering if someone could help -- I am running OS X 10.3.7 on my new (august 2004) ibook, and my sister has an older imac (2002, I think) running 10.1 -- what does she need to do to get to 10.3.7 -- I tried to upgrade her via sofware updates in the apple icon...but it didn't work.
thanks!
I'm afraid Software Update won't work for that. The only way to go from 10.1 to 10.3.7 is to purchase a retail copy of 10.3, then use Software Update on 10.3 to update to 10.3.7. At this point, your sister might be better off waiting for Tiger's release and upgrading to that instead (by purchasing a retail copy).la_russe said:
la_russe said:
Step 1. Detach the firewire devices.
Step 2. Install OS 10.3 from the retail Panther installer CD.( or DVD).
Step 3. Updater using the 10.3.7 Combo Updater.
Step 4. Use Software Update to catch all of the other updaters.
Step 5. Re-attach any firewire devices.
... Substitute in Step 2: Your Restore CD's for your new computer might work, might not work. Give it a try.
Beginning to see the cracks.
At first, after updating, everything seemed good. No big problems whatsoever. But now, this iBook of mine is dirt slow half the time and has to be restarted. But not even that does anything now.
After logging in, it takes about 3 to 4 minutes for my desktop to appear. That is if it appears, sometimes I just get a cursor and nothing else. Then when everything does load, for the first 30 minutes of operation (regardless of what is being used) starts the spinning beachball or the freeze up. Hell sometimes the clock will be stuck for almost minutes. If I get a major freeze or a kernel panic I have to shut down for 5 minutes and boot up again. Restarting does absolutely nothing, it just takes me back to the damn cursor.
I've run just about damn near everything I have. Norton SystemWorks 3, TechTool Pro 4, DiskWarrior 3, Repair Permissions, Apple Disk First Aid, Cache cleaning, Re-prebinding, log dumping, everything under the sun. Even firmware resets but nothing even remotely solves my problems now.
At first, after updating, everything seemed good. No big problems whatsoever. But now, this iBook of mine is dirt slow half the time and has to be restarted. But not even that does anything now.
After logging in, it takes about 3 to 4 minutes for my desktop to appear. That is if it appears, sometimes I just get a cursor and nothing else. Then when everything does load, for the first 30 minutes of operation (regardless of what is being used) starts the spinning beachball or the freeze up. Hell sometimes the clock will be stuck for almost minutes. If I get a major freeze or a kernel panic I have to shut down for 5 minutes and boot up again. Restarting does absolutely nothing, it just takes me back to the damn cursor.
I've run just about damn near everything I have. Norton SystemWorks 3, TechTool Pro 4, DiskWarrior 3, Repair Permissions, Apple Disk First Aid, Cache cleaning, Re-prebinding, log dumping, everything under the sun. Even firmware resets but nothing even remotely solves my problems now.
same problem
17" PB 1.5 1gb RAM
The computer slowed way down and then locked up. I tried to reboot and it wouldn't recognise the hard disk. Now it seems that even NORTON isn't able to do much.
Don't know if it is system related or just the off chance hard drive malfunction. Thank goodness all of my photos and my music is on my ipod.
Seems ironic to me that I must use this crappy wintel box with windows 98 to access this forum and tell you all about he 17" aluminum brick that I bought to replace the box.
zwilliams07 said:
17" PB 1.5 1gb RAM
The computer slowed way down and then locked up. I tried to reboot and it wouldn't recognise the hard disk. Now it seems that even NORTON isn't able to do much.
Don't know if it is system related or just the off chance hard drive malfunction. Thank goodness all of my photos and my music is on my ipod.
Seems ironic to me that I must use this crappy wintel box with windows 98 to access this forum and tell you all about he 17" aluminum brick that I bought to replace the box.
The last couple of people to report problems have one thing in common - Norton software. Maybe that's a factor?
wdlove said:
Definitely an interesting observation. The one other thing I noticed that seemed to be a common link (from Apple's Discussions) was Airport. But alas, I don't use Airport.
wdlove said:
ok, so that's a defenestrated theory. hopefully we'll collectively get to the bottom of this.
wdlove said:I wasn't aware the Panther was sold on a DVD.
Maybe that Apple tech meant "Tiger" when he was talking about OS installation from DVD.
... But he was talking about G5 Towers when he said to re-install the OS from the "Panther Installer DVD".
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SLOW AFTER 10.3.7 ???
Quite the opposite for my 2002 QuickSilver G4-733, and my toy iMac: (Summer 2001) iMac G3-600.
10.3.7 is not much faster than 10.3.6, but you will really notice the difference when you switch from 10.2.8 on the same computer.
Some people need to have their software installed by professionals who are paid real money to install software.
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NORTON IS THE PROBLEM ???
Never Install Norton Filesaver. Filesaver will drag your computer down to a s-t-o-P.
... Symantec should be taken out behind woodshed and whipped for allowing the release of detrimental software.
FileSaver does save files, but in doing so, Filesaver is inventing more files to be saved and tended to, which in turn is inventing more files to be saved and tended to, and repeat and repeat, and on and on, to a point where Filesaver has consumed the whole hard drive with useless files.
"FileSaver" is doing exactly what the title says, but not what you are expecting.
It's a bad title.
... but who in their right mind would install "FileConstipator".
FileSaver should be regarded as a Virus Trojan Horse.
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How to use Norton Software:
... Read instructions:
Step 1.: Startup the computer from the bootable Norton CD.
Step 2.: Run Disk Doctor from the CD.
Step 3.: Run Speed Disk from the CD
Step 4.: Restart the computer from the hard drive.
Step 5.: Put away the Norton CD. You are done with it.
I've been using Norton Disk Doctor and Speed Disk since those titles were on floppies and worked in OS 6.
All of the other software titles on the Norton CD are included on the CD just to fill space on the Norton CD.
... I would rather see the software engineers' photos of their Mom's and Dad's, than see ain't-worth-a-c®@pware.
The Norton 8 CD (Disk Doctor and Speed Disk) works fine, although a little slow, for me and my Mac's.
mkap said:
I had this happen with 10.3.2 on a blueberry iBook (original colorful clamshell style). I tried reseating the card to no avail. I moved the card between that and another iBook and the problem followed the card. I moved the card back, then it worked for a while. Now it has stopped again. It is very on-again-off-again. I think in my case it is a marginal card. If you can, try swapping the card out and see if the problem follows the card or the computer.
TednDi said:
I would erase the HD, reinstall from CD's and upgrade to new OS. Then when it is all stable restore your data from backup. You did make a backup, right...
Airport card: I dunno. I've heard that airport/wireless networking cards burn out when you download too much porno.
... I think that's one for the Myth-busters.
Modern Mac's have a PMU/CUDA/motherboard reset button.
Press the button.
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JJ
... I think that's one for the Myth-busters.
Modern Mac's have a PMU/CUDA/motherboard reset button.
Press the button.
=-=
JJ
JJTiger1 said:
Done that, repeatedly, but it doesn't seem to help. The problem's following the card so I don't think that is the issue but I did it anyways just to be safe. Paranoia and all, ya know.
10.3.7 killed the iBook...
Yesterday I updated my lovely talented wonderful (okay, okay, enough) wife's tangerine iBook. This is a stock Apple machine, no external hard drives or accessories - there are no firewire drives on this machine, in fact, there is no firewire port. Nothing on the USB port either.
I made a backup of her data. Then I erased the hard drive, ran Disk Utilities and reinstalled 10.3 from the original disks. I then ejected the CD and restarted. A-okay so far - we then had a totally clean, spankin' new OS. I then ran the Apple Software Update and it said it wanted to install a bunch of things including the 10.3.7 combo update. I gave it the go ahead. We have a DSL connection but it still took many hours for the downloads. I checked it periodically through the day and things were progressing well. In the evening it said it was all done and I restarted.
? ? ? ? <-- blinking question mark.
I inserted the OS 10.3 CD and ran Disk Utilities from the CD. No internal hard drive! Nada. I restarted and cleared the PMU with the battery and AC power removed, let the machine sit a little. Still getting the ? ? ? ?. Not good. Ran the Disk Utilities from the CD again. Still no hard drive.
Coincidence? Maybe, but I'm not running the 10.3.7 update on any other computers. Right now I'm busy with some other things and merely switched her to a different machine. Any suggestions are appreciated. When I get the chance I'll take her machine apart and see what I can find with the hard drive. Possibly resocketting it will help and I'll test it in another machine and another hard drive in her machine. This is not very good though. 10.3.7 is batting oh-for-one.
-Walter
in Vermont
where the HD isn't the
only thing that's frozen.
Yesterday I updated my lovely talented wonderful (okay, okay, enough) wife's tangerine iBook. This is a stock Apple machine, no external hard drives or accessories - there are no firewire drives on this machine, in fact, there is no firewire port. Nothing on the USB port either.
I made a backup of her data. Then I erased the hard drive, ran Disk Utilities and reinstalled 10.3 from the original disks. I then ejected the CD and restarted. A-okay so far - we then had a totally clean, spankin' new OS. I then ran the Apple Software Update and it said it wanted to install a bunch of things including the 10.3.7 combo update. I gave it the go ahead. We have a DSL connection but it still took many hours for the downloads. I checked it periodically through the day and things were progressing well. In the evening it said it was all done and I restarted.
? ? ? ? <-- blinking question mark.
I inserted the OS 10.3 CD and ran Disk Utilities from the CD. No internal hard drive! Nada. I restarted and cleared the PMU with the battery and AC power removed, let the machine sit a little. Still getting the ? ? ? ?. Not good. Ran the Disk Utilities from the CD again. Still no hard drive.
Coincidence? Maybe, but I'm not running the 10.3.7 update on any other computers. Right now I'm busy with some other things and merely switched her to a different machine. Any suggestions are appreciated. When I get the chance I'll take her machine apart and see what I can find with the hard drive. Possibly resocketting it will help and I'll test it in another machine and another hard drive in her machine. This is not very good though. 10.3.7 is batting oh-for-one.
-Walter
in Vermont
where the HD isn't the
only thing that's frozen.
pubwvj said:
Do you have Tech Tool Pro 4 or DiskWarrior? Both of those would be a much better option to see your hard drive than disk utility (which is ultimately a lame utility except for repairing permissions and formatting/partitioning). I have a graphite original iBook I am getting ready to take to 10.3 from 10.2.8 and I definitely want to avoid this problem, especially since I just spent 2.5 hours installing a 30gb hard drive in it and about 10gb of software! Let me know how things turn out.