Mac OS X 10.3.7 Update

[Joepy]

Has anyone else noticed this? When you change your desktop's resolution by either playing a game or start the iTunes visualizer (fullscreen), you have a drop shadow in your menu bar when you return to your desktop. Additionally, when you use Exposé's "Clear Desktop" function, a black rectangle also quickly appears and then disappears ("flies to the nearest corner").

It's really strange and it has been there for a while, but 10.3.7 doesn't fix it.

 

[iBunny]

Works good for me so far.

I dont think i will notice anything from it, but it didnt hurt.

 

[admford]

Hmmm... there is a good speed up in the OS when opening and using certain apps like Safari. Anyways i did some benchmarking of my own and here are the results. The only thing is that I did my old benchmark with HD tests and that literally killed my results (stuffed up system, gotta clean it out), and the most recent one I did with 10.3.7 doesn't include HD results. Anyways here goes:

Config: PowerBook 15" 1.5GHz, 512MB Ram, ATI Radeon 9700 with 128MB Ram

10.3.7

CPU Test - 164.36

GCD Loop - 167.02 - 6.52 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic - 128.49 - 464.66 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic - 184.70 - 5.37 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT - 187.29 - 2.91 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library - 169.56 - 6.79 Mops/sec​

Thread Test - 124.53

Computation - 90.36 - 1.22 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention - 200.24 - 2.51 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads​

Memory Test - 123.85

System - 126.92

Allocate - 791.76 - 516.46 Kalloc/sec
Fill - 125.93 - 1002.40 MB/sec
Copy - 69.29 - 346.43 MB/sec​

Stream - 120.92

Copy - 114.57 - 837.52 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale - 129.54 - 956.02 MB/sec [altivec]
Add - 123.37 - 789.59 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad - 117.30 - 716.69 MB/sec [altivec]​

Quartz Graphics Test - 164.30

Line 139.46 - 3.55 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle - 157.08 - 11.05 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle - 163.85 - 3.78 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier - 159.46 - 1.73 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text - 221.22 - 3.61 Kchars/sec​

OpenGL Graphics Test - 104.94

Spinning Squares - 104.94 - 73.43 frames/sec​

User Interface Test - 172.63

Elements - 172.63 - 55.53 refresh/sec​

10.3.6

CPU Test - 152.53

GCD Loop - 158.95 - 6.21 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic - 104.48 - 377.84 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic - 183.96 - 5.34 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT - 190.80 - 2.96 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library - 160.20 - 6.41 Mops/sec​

Thread Test - 119.95

Computation - 87.53 - 1.18 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention - 190.51 - 2.39 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads​

Memory Test - 120.44

System - 114.22

Allocate - 923.25 - 602.23 Kalloc/sec
Fill - 105.31 - 838.26 MB/sec
Copy - 63.75 - 318.75 MB/sec​

Stream - 127.37

Copy - 118.17 - 863.86 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale - 130.51 - 963.14 MB/sec [altivec]
Add - 131.74 - 843.13 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad - 130.07 - 794.71 MB/sec [altivec]​

Quartz Graphics Test - 151.39

Line - 129.54 - 3.30 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle - 140.31 - 9.87 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle - 151.55 - 3.49 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier - 152.67 - 1.66 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text - 198.74 - 3.24 Kchars/sec​

OpenGL Graphics Test - 107.10

Spinning Squares - 107.10 - 74.95 frames/sec​

User Interface Test - 170.92

Elements - 170.92 - 54.98 refresh/sec​

 

[mangoman]

So far, so good, but there's this thing...

Every time I repair permissions I get this constant repair (see PDF). It's been happening since 10.3.6 and this new update doesn't fix it. Am I alone here?

 

[fatfish]

Updating in Progress

Have started to update my macs now, after seeing very few issues from you guys. I usually start with the least critical, an old G4-450, and work up to my G5-D2.5 which has my important stuff on.

So far so good, except that is for my usual issue since X.3.5.

When I update, my network settings are reset (it assigns itself a static IP address), and somehow my router is affected. No problem reassigning DHCP info and getting each mac to see each other, but no internet over LAN to updated macs (but still have it to macs not updated)

In the past, a few restarts of the router usually does the trick, but I'll have to wait as some macs are still d/l ing the X.3.7.

Anyone also have this? Any ideas why this occurs?

 

[fatfish]

Every time I repair permissions I get this constant repair (see PDF). It's been happening since 10.3.6 and this new update doesn't fix it. Am I alone here?

You should have seen that message long before X.3.6, it's quite normal and nothing to worry about. There is an apple knoweldge base document that explains it, but I'd just forget about it.

 

[mr.steevo]

Every time I repair permissions I get this constant repair (see PDF). It's been happening since 10.3.6 and this new update doesn't fix it. Am I alone here?

Hi,

First of all, I get this always.

Secondly, how did you make a picture of that pane?

s.

PS. Took a longtime to install 10.3.7 but seems to work fine. safari does load faster (after the second load). Not much of a power user so I doubt I will see any significant improvements with 3.7

 

[thex]

Every time I repair permissions I get this constant repair (see PDF). It's been happening since 10.3.6 and this new update doesn't fix it. Am I alone here?

Yeah I get the same thing, after updating my PB 17" 1 GHz finder keeps crashing and relaunching.

 

[Links]

Every time I repair permissions I get this constant repair (see PDF). It's been happening since 10.3.6 and this new update doesn't fix it. Am I alone here?

This is a status message and not a cause for concern. You may safely ignore it.

Here is the Apple doc:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107298

 

[Sedulous]

After installing 10.3.7 my Powerbook trackpad has stopped working when I plug in a FW HD. Weird.

 

[nickdaze]

First real complaint I've heard of

I installed 10.3.7, restarted, everything seems fine. My 3rd party apps are fine.

Then it hits me.

Mail.app takes literally 40 seconds to launch. And that's after the icon stops bouncing in the dock.

I might be switching to Thunderbird, much as I hate to say it...

 

[gmanrique]

Strange behaviour with some Websites...

After the update I noticed something happening only in certain websites, like www.macobserver.com, where their homepage is loaded, a bit faster than before, but the text is not completely smooth. After a second or two it refreshes itself and everything is fine. It does not happens in sites like Macrumos. Anyone else noticing this with macobserver or other sites?

 

[Doga]

Installed the update - no problems whatsoever. Good voodoo.

 

[~Shard~]

I installed 10.3.7, restarted, everything seems fine. My 3rd party apps are fine.

Then it hits me.

Mail.app takes literally 40 seconds to launch. And that's after the icon stops bouncing in the dock.

I might be switching to Thunderbird, much as I hate to say it...

Did you try restarting your machine one more time afterwards? Also, did you verify and repair permissions both before and after installation? What type of system are you using? Let us know, maybe we can be of help...

 

[Toe]

Repair permissions, of course.

Force maintenance from terminal:

sudo periodic daily
sudo periodic weekly
sudo periodic monthly

Force update prebinding:

sudo update_prebinding -root / -force

Restart

Backup

Install!

That's funny, because these days, my update process goes more like this:

Ooooh, new update!

OK

Accept

Restart

Hey, let's see if there's a discussion on MR.
​

Whole thing only takes a couple minutes.

So far, that strategy has worked quite well for me. I guess I figure, "It'll probably work, and I backup often." If the system hoses, I can just archive-reinstall and get it back. Unix is soooo nice that way.

(Of course, I don't have a FW drive plugged in )

 

[admford]

And thanks to admford for posting those benchmarking results, those are very interesting - it's neat to see how an update actually affects certain apps, etc.

Heh, no problem, had my old benchmarks saved, just had to run XBench for a minute to get new ones up. But the speed up is deffinately noticeable. Most programs start up faster (not only Safari) and it seems Quartz implementation has been improved on (along with the drivers possibly) and over all compiling of the OS seems to be slightly better optimized.

 

[FoxyKaye]

Does this update include native support for the Pioneer DVR-108 ??

Nope - just installed and am in the process of checking out my system...

My guess is that if Apple starts including the dual-layer Pioneer drives in its systems upgrade at MacWorld in January, we'll see support in 10.3.8 or 10.3.9. If they don't, then I don't think this is going to happen for Panther and we'll have to upgrade to Tiger to get native support.

Though honestly, I haven't really missed Apple's burn support much -- I've found Toast a much more reliable and better-equipped alternative.

No big problems with this update yet, unlike the nightmare of 10.3.6 that happened to me. Or, to quote Han Solo, "Um, everything's OK. Situation normal. How are you?"

 

[bousozoku]

It's a bit early to tell but I am not noticing the memory leak I found right after installing 10.3.6, so that's a great thing. If other things work better, I'm all for it. However, networking is still no better for me...10.3.4 was the best...or 10.2.8.

Good luck Apple. Hope you find the problem soon.

 

[kerb]

YES!

That horrible DNS problem has gone away.
Surfing is much smoother and nicer now.
Everything feels perky as usual on my 12" 1.33Ghz

 

[Converted2Truth]

Updated my DP1.8/6800GT with no problems. I have noticed improvements, but WoW is still slow at times. I'm very pleased that they are trying to fix some things. It's cool to read in apple's release notes that they taylored the patch to fix WoW. That means they're communicating and stuff... hopefully this will lead to a more complete and reliable implementation of openGL. Cheers to apple, thanks for a couple more FPS.

 

[aprilfools]

10.3.7 update

i have an OWC Other World Computing firewire hard drive. Since update it wont show up anymore. I did the update.

 

[ddbean]

Is Virex running?

I installed 10.3.7, restarted, everything seems fine.
....
Mail.app takes literally 40 seconds to launch. And that's after the icon stops bouncing in the dock. ...

My Mail took almost 40 sec to close but as soon as Virex stopped scanning my Mail closed right away, so just make sure your not running Virex scanning, and see if that makes a difference. (Never had slow opening however so this might not help you)

 

[pubwvj]

Incompatibilities?

I am using the following in 10.3.5. Is anyone else using any of these and has upgrades and if so do they still work?

iMote
PithHelmet
XKeys/FKey Listener
MenuMeters
Palm
HP Director (AIO HP Officejet 7130)
A-Dock
Sogudi (in Safari)
Carbon Copy Cloner
X-Plane 7.21
Nomad MG

Any specific incompatibilities? (Wow - there's a word with a lot of eyes.)

I have a PowerBook Pismo 500MHz, two colorful clamshell iBooks 300MHz(?), an PowerBook Lombard 400MHz and a PowerMac G4 500MHz. Anyone tried updating these older models yet?

One specific problem I am having with 10.3.5 is the Pismo and Lombard PowerBooks not recognizing batteries properly. Anyone have this and is it fixed in 10.3.7?

Similarly one of the iBook's Airport cards works in 9.2 but is sporatically missing in action under OS X. Anyone every have that and if so any fix including 10.3.7?

Speaking of things working, are the temperature measurements on the CPU back or is that still dead? I loved the temp measurement and on my PowerBooks it seemed quite accurate and consistant.

Is Safari or Mail better? Both get horribly slow in 10.3.5 at times.

-Walter
backing up quickly...
upgrading slowly...

 

[Stewie]

I know it doesn't say anything about an iSync update but it does mention better Bluetooth support for mobile phones, my question being has anyone with a Nokia 7610 discovered that they can now iSync? I shouldn't install this update until it's qualified by Digidesign but I'm going crazy waiting for iSync support for syncML synchronization.
Unfortunately the Apple support discussions forums have been down for hours so I can't tell from there.

This update didn't do anything for iSync and my Nokia 6620. Although i didn't expect it to. I am hoping tha they get this working in Tiger.

 

[Horrortaxi]

Just checking in to report no ill effects from the update on 3 machines--G4 Cube, iBook 700, MDD 1ghz. All machines run Macaroni and ClearDock--iBook also runs SideTrack. No bad behavior from any of those either.

This is, of course, exactly what I expected.