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Mac OS X 10.3.9 7W72 Seeded
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10.3.8 update: The Sky is Falling Edition
It's weird how a vocal minority convinces everyone that these updates will nuke your machine if you look at them cross-eyed. I seem to be playing the role of pacifier a lot these days. *shrug*
Here's my personal experience:
10.3.8 Client
10.3.8 Server
Maybe some of us just take better care of our machines.
It's weird how a vocal minority convinces everyone that these updates will nuke your machine if you look at them cross-eyed. I seem to be playing the role of pacifier a lot these days. *shrug*
Here's my personal experience:
10.3.8 Client
- 33 eMacs - 0 problems
- 6 PowerMac G4s - 0 problems
- 3 Powermac G5s - 0 problems
- 4 PowerBook G4s - 0 problems
10.3.8 Server
- 1 Xserve G4 - 0 problems
- 1 Xserve G5 - 0 problems
- 1 PowerMac G4 - 0 problems
Maybe some of us just take better care of our machines.
Rower_CPU said:It's weird how a vocal minority convinces everyone that these updates will nuke your machine if you look at them cross-eyed. I seem to be playing the role of pacifier a lot these days. *shrug*
Here's my personal experience:
10.3.8 Client
- 33 eMacs - 0 problems
- 6 PowerMac G4s - 0 problems
- 3 Powermac G5s - 0 problems
- 4 PowerBook G4s - 0 problems
10.3.8 Server
- 1 Xserve G4 - 0 problems
- 1 Xserve G5 - 0 problems
- 1 PowerMac G4 - 0 problems
Maybe some of us just take better care of our machines.
Maybe some of us just use our machines differently.
For example...
I would be willing to bet you didn't experience 25 to 30 kernel panics a day before 10.3.7 was released. We did.
There were 2 problems. First when using 1500 MTU's the Onboard GigE would go to sleep. It was being caused by the device driver intermittently sending out a packet with VLAN tag queuing at 1504.
Second it was determined that the hardware TCP checksuming wasnt actually enabled. Even though the TCP stack thought checksuming was taking place in hardware. Therefore checksumming wasnt happening at all and malformed data was getting passed up the stack and causing panics.
It turned out to be both a kernel problem and a faulty ethernet device driver.
The issue was only seen at a handful of sites and all of those sites had more than 256 Xserves. Apple spent a lot of time trying to figure out what was wrong.
We didn't have any problems with SSH until 10.3.8... and I would add that if you have only a small number of machines you might not ever see it.
We have 1835 Xserves and we are now experiencing anywhere from 10 to 50 of them a day have stopped allowing SSH connections.
The ONLY change we made was to upgrade to 10.3.8 last week.
10.3.8 and the sky hasn't hit me yet
I have 10.3.8 on two machines (old 450 G4 & TI PB) and the 10.3.9 update wouldn't fix anything that I'm using. Safari doesn't bomb, My external drives mount and My wireless net works great. I'm not very literate about the internal working of the machines but the only kernal panic I've had is when my microwave failed.
PS: I will update to 10.3.9 as soon as it comes out. 10.4 I'll wait a while.
I have 10.3.8 on two machines (old 450 G4 & TI PB) and the 10.3.9 update wouldn't fix anything that I'm using. Safari doesn't bomb, My external drives mount and My wireless net works great. I'm not very literate about the internal working of the machines but the only kernal panic I've had is when my microwave failed.
PS: I will update to 10.3.9 as soon as it comes out. 10.4 I'll wait a while.
~loserman~-
Haven't seen a KP in a long time, and even then, 99% of the time it's due to hardware issues.
I use SSH every day, as do several of my co-workers. Zero problems on 10.3.8. Could be network differences - we're on a plain vanilla 100Mbit campus network.
Haven't seen a KP in a long time, and even then, 99% of the time it's due to hardware issues.
I use SSH every day, as do several of my co-workers. Zero problems on 10.3.8. Could be network differences - we're on a plain vanilla 100Mbit campus network.
Rower_CPU said:
We are using jumbo frames on GigE. And we use our servers as a cluster.
As far as KP's go we havent had many since 10.3.7 and the ethernet driver update. We went from 25 to 30 a day down to maybe 1 every 2 weeks, and now they are usually hardware caused.
Like i said we didnt upgrade to 10.3.8 until last week and our main motivation for the upgrade was we were hoping( repeat hoping) that it just might help with some issues with both NFS and XSAN that we were having.
Rower_CPU said:It's weird how a vocal minority convinces everyone that these updates will nuke your machine if you look at them cross-eyed. I seem to be playing the role of pacifier a lot these days. *shrug*
Here's my personal experience:
10.3.8 Client
- 33 eMacs - 0 problems
- 6 PowerMac G4s - 0 problems
- 3 Powermac G5s - 0 problems
- 4 PowerBook G4s - 0 problems
10.3.8 Server
- 1 Xserve G4 - 0 problems
- 1 Xserve G5 - 0 problems
- 1 PowerMac G4 - 0 problems
Maybe some of us just take better care of our machines.
I agree with you. iMac G5 1.8 Ghz and Powerbook G4 1.5 Ghz no problems here. And I follow my upgrade FAQ: http://www.macmaps.com/upgradefaq.html
Sunrunner said:
the track record for me is also good. only since 10.3.8 i experience the problem of "powerbook wont wake from sleep". it's funny that apple claims to have solved that problem with 10.3.8. in my case (and others) 10.3.8 causes that problem.
bluetooth sometimes stops for no reason.
looking at the rumor sites a lot more people complain about 10.3.8 than 10.3.7 or 10.3.6. so it seems that 10.3.8 in general is less stable. let's hope 10.3.9 is better.
and yes, i did a clean install and all that stuff. didn't help.
andi
AppleInsider is reporting that a new seed of 10.3.9 has been released.
7W29 apparently adds changes to Image Capture, Stickies, FAT drive support, Preview, DNS lookup, QuickDraw, Security Certificates, Keychain Access, System Profiler and Disk Utility.
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7W29 apparently adds changes to Image Capture, Stickies, FAT drive support, Preview, DNS lookup, QuickDraw, Security Certificates, Keychain Access, System Profiler and Disk Utility.
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Punani said:
Isn't it strange that the latest build carries the build number 7W29? Earlier builds were 7W72 and 7W79.
~loserman~ said:
1835 xserves?! WOW. Where are you employed? And what do they use them for. Virginia Tech only has 1100, and they are plastered all over the internet.... you have even more! Thats awesome. What are you doing with them? That would be one of the fastest supercomputers in existance!
wdlove said:
I would probably get several months of usefulness out of it.
We are not quick switchers. Tiger will have to go thru several updates before we would be a likely users of it. System stability is way to important to us.