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Mac OS X 10.3.9 Now Available

Blue screen of death?

I did not bother to read through the previous 250-ish posts, but i was wondering if anyone else experienced a blue screen of death after rebooting from the update?

Well, I did... but it was more a "blue screen of coma" than death.

After logging in, my Mac struggled a little to assemble the desktop/finder, but other than that appeared normal. I went to the apple menu to open system preferences, but without warning a blue screen appeared for a few moments before returning to the log in menu. I did not "log out". It was really strange. I have yet to notice any other weirdness since then.

BTW, the blue was a lot prettier and soothing* than that other blue screen (of the death variety).

*I mean, it would normally appear soothing (given another context). In truth, it freaked me out.
 
Lacero said:
It loads fine for me.
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I applied the Security update 02 and rebooted, BBC website now works correctly :->

( I suspect it was the reboot rather than the security update )

PB won't connect to wireless upon start up :-( Otherwise, everything seems great.

Roll on OSX 10.4..
 
I finally see...

I finally see why Apple charges so much money for their operating system. Besides the fact that the OS is very good quality and very reliable, look how many updates they do before going to 10.4! The updates aren't just frivolous either, they are very good quality updates. You don't pay Apple $120 for the initial release of the software, you pay them for the incredible maintenance of the operating system.

Those that say 10.4 is "just an update" or "just a service pack" (service pack is a term for idiots.) should reevaluate their reasoning. Look at all the incredible new features of tiger. Then think about all of the optimizing and bug fixing Apple is going to to to an already stable (I'm assuming) release of Tiger.

Wow, Microsoft sucks so much compared to Apple (at making software; not at implementing evil strategies).
 
MCroft said:
According to
The Shortcut list, it's Command Down-Arrow and Command Up-Arrow. I just use Home and End, though...
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Command-up-arrow and Command-down-arrow mean JUMP TO TOP and JUMP TO BOTTOM. The home and end keys are slightly different, as they do SCROLL TO TOP and SCROLL TO BOTTOM.
 
ChrisH3677 said:
Same here. Safari won't even start - and I have tried repairing permissions and deleting its preferences.

Any tips appreciated
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yeah, I could use some too. I have been having nothing but fits with safari since this install. I haven't had any other issues with stability or any wierd crashes up until now. Tiger will be here on the 29th, but for now I am trying an archive install just to see if I can get it back.
I already tried the combo update, still no go. : :rolleyes: figures the only update I have issues with is the last one.
 
Safari definitely faster, snappier

For the first time, a software update has given me an improvement in overall performance of Safari. No more problems with losing the mouse cursor after logging out; no problems with sleep.

As someone who's considering one of the new 15" PowerBooks, it's also comforting to know that the ScrollPad issues have been, more than likely, solved with this update.

Excepting the plug-in problems with Safari that others have reported, it would appear that Panther has indeed approached its pinnacle.

(Using a Rev B Dual 2.0, with 4G RAM - the "Chevy Suburban" of computers in terms of raw, abusive power, delivered with the smoothness and perfection of a 7-series BMW...!)
 
Worst update I have ever done.

Safari crashes on almost everything!! Try quitting it.. it crashes. Try certain webpages... it crashes!! I finally deleted it and downloaded Safari 1.2 again... I will wait until apple fixes it.
 
dudemac said:
yeah, I could use some too. I have been having nothing but fits with safari since this install. I haven't had any other issues with stability or any wierd crashes up until now. Tiger will be here on the 29th, but for now I am trying an archive install just to see if I can get it back.
I already tried the combo update, still no go. : :rolleyes: figures the only update I have issues with is the last one.
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Safari is really different internally. I've heard about incompatibilities with PithHelmet, Saft, iGetter. If you have these or other SIMBL items installed, try removing them and trying again.

If it's the Java issue in Safari, then there's a fix in this thread.
 
i_am_a_cow said:
I finally see why Apple charges so much money for their operating system. Besides the fact that the OS is very good quality and very reliable, look how many updates they do before going to 10.4! The updates aren't just frivolous either, they are very good quality updates. You don't pay Apple $120 for the initial release of the software, you pay them for the incredible maintenance of the operating system.
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Interesting, considering that this post appears on the n'th page of a thread mainly discussing problems that the 10.3.9 update has been causing people. (Including a report that it's *still* screwing up external 1394 hard drives!)


i_am_a_cow said:
Those that say 10.4 is "just an update" or "just a service pack" (service pack is a term for idiots.) should reevaluate their reasoning.
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Do you really mean that "idiot" and "service pack" are synonyms?

Or did you mean to say that "service pack is a term used by idiots"?

Do you have an alternate term for "a bundle of patches and feature updates" that you like better?

i_am_a_cow said:
Then think about all of the optimizing and bug fixing Apple is going to to to an already stable (I'm assuming) release of Tiger.
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You have faith, grasshopper.

But, why will Apple need to do all the bug fixing (your term) to Tiger if it's already stable?
 
To be sure, I haven't used my external FW drive yet - who knows? I may have problems with this...

I'll have to agree with other posters with regard to Safari's Java implementation - things certainly must be different under the hood - it sure has a different "feel" to it, hence, my earlier post. It looks as if though anyone who's had plug-ins and/or related apps running with Safari are definitely experiencing problems.

Perhaps my success is merely because I'm not as much of a power user when it comes to Safari...I'm not sure.
 
AidenShaw said:
Interesting, considering that this post appears on the n'th page of a thread mainly discussing problems that the 10.3.9 update has been causing people. (Including a report that it's *still* screwing up external 1394 hard drives!)
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I installed the update and have no problems, but I know some people are having problems. The point isn't about this update in particular, because most of the updates have been just fine. Also, have you seen all the problems many Windows users have all of the time? The only one in this that seems to be of major concern is the firewire drive one, as you mentioned, but some people have that working.

AidenShaw said:
Do you really mean that "idiot" and "service pack" are synonyms?
Or did you mean to say that "service pack is a term used by idiots"?
Do you have an alternate term for "a bundle of patches and feature updates" that you like better?
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"Service pack" is a Microsoft term for what we get from Apple 10 times before we have to pay anything. Sure, maybe the Windows service packs include some extra "features" or something besides bugfixes, but it is a marketing term by Microsoft that should not be applied to Apple products. The use of the term to describe 10.4 flags ignorance immediately.

Actually, the term Apple has used in the past is "upgrade." 10.4 really is a "grade" better than 10.3.

AidenShaw said:
You have faith, grasshopper.
But, why will Apple need to do all the bug fixing (your term) to Tiger if it's already stable?
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Why can't stable releases have bugs? Name one piece of stable software without any bugs whatsoever.

The reason I am so happy is that Apple fixed my trackpad! It works flawlessly now. In Safari I can finally scroll quickly and my trackpad is precise and quick.
 
Javascript appears to be faster. :->

Also, pop up blocker is better - even blocks the pop ups on DrudgeReport.com, which it didn't do previously :->

MegaSignal said:
For the first time, a software update has given me an improvement in overall performance of Safari. No more problems with losing the mouse cursor after logging out; no problems with sleep.

As someone who's considering one of the new 15" PowerBooks, it's also comforting to know that the ScrollPad issues have been, more than likely, solved with this update.

Excepting the plug-in problems with Safari that others have reported, it would appear that Panther has indeed approached its pinnacle.

(Using a Rev B Dual 2.0, with 4G RAM - the "Chevy Suburban" of computers in terms of raw, abusive power, delivered with the smoothness and perfection of a 7-series BMW...!)
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AidenShaw said:
But, why will Apple need to do all the bug fixing (your term) to Tiger if it's already stable?
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Two quotes:

"The ugliest code I ever saw was the junk I wrote two months ago. The
greatest code I ever saw is the stuff I'm writing today. This statement
will still be true two months from now."
-- John Norstad, Disinfectant author

"Every program has at least one bug and can be shortened by at least
one instruction -- from which, by induction, one can deduce that every
program can be reduced to one instruction which doesn't work."
--(Author Unknown)
 
Hmwph!

I'm typing in Netscape. It's not a massive problem, it's just a pain as I much prefer safari - plus it has all my bookmarks!

Now fixed : Gave up and finally deleted the new version and downloaded 1.2 Works ok now.
 
YES!!! eBay is useful again! This has been KILLING me!

Java and safari work fine for me (no safari plugins) - 800mhz tibook.

edit: Also, using the Keyboard Shortcuts system preference pane, I was able to change View Source back to cmd-opt-V. Why they changed it to U is beyond me - maybe rhyming with the "-iew" in "view source"?
 
Like many others, I was abhorred by the 10.3.9 update. Safari was rendered useless and no java applications worked. Though people have hinted at these solutions, here they are again.

1) To fix Safari, remove extraneous third-party plug-ins. Acidsearch seems to be a major culprit.

2) To fix the java problems, you need to update prebinding again. Downloading the 2005-002 security update does this indirectly, or you can just update prebindings from the Terminal.
Code: 
sudo update_prebinding -root / -force -verbose

This worked for me *without* a reboot. I'm now perfectly happy with the 10.3.9 update. For the record, I don't have any external firewire hard drives, so I can't comment on that.

Hope that helps someone.
 
Somebody over at Appleinsider found these nice strings (again) in 10.3.9:
"PowerMac7_2", "PowerMac8_1", and "PowerMac9_1"

Does anybody know what the current models (Powermac, iMac, eMac, MacMini) have as identifiers?
 
Maxiseller said:
I'm typing in Netscape. It's not a massive problem, it's just a pain as I much prefer safari - plus it has all my bookmarks!

Now fixed : Gave up and finally deleted the new version and downloaded 1.2 Works ok now.
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My wife was having problems with her 15" PowerBook and Safari. She thinks that it's fixed now. Last evening she downloaded Safari and it worked alright. Then this morning the problem persisted at first. Apple must have made some internal changes. So far so good for now.
 
jibberia said:
YES!!! eBay is useful again! This has been KILLING me!
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I hope by this you mean I can search eBay without beach-balling, if so this has made my day.

I've noticed Safari is loads faster, and the UI seems faster too.

AppleMatt (runs off to check eBay)
 
Ooh I just noticed that pressing shift command left/right in a text box now does what it should instead of chanigng tabs in Safari. That bugged the crap out of me before
 
Fixed my bluetooth on my PB

My bluetooth module was non-functional after the 10.3.8 update and 10.3.9 fixed it. Yea!
 
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