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Mac OS X 10.3.9 Now Available
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Tomaz said:Thanks for the hint, I didn't know that!
So after updating to 10.3.9 and thinking that in Safari 1.3 there's no "save as" anymore, I reinstalled Safari 1.2. Now that I know that you can "save as" in safari 1.3 I'd like to go back to the new version, but software update doesn't let me install 10.3.9 again.
Anyone knows how to trick software update so I can install 10.3.9 (or Safari 1.3) a second time??
You should be able to download it from the Apple.com website by now (they usually take a bit longer to post it up there for some reason). It's in the Downloads section:
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/
For some odd reason I felt compelled to read through all 16 pages of this thread AFTER installing the update. I can only say that I'm glad my installation went as smoothly as it did, particularly considering that I was trying to write a Java program for a friend immediately after installing the update. Anyway, no issues here on my old PowerBook and this thread has opened my eyes to some cool plug-ins that I'd certainly look at using when they are fixed (AcidSearch looks like something I could have used months ago).
Overall, it looks to have been a good update (Safari is fabulous) but I feel sorry for the guys that have experienced the problems.
Next stop, Tiger Town.
Overall, it looks to have been a good update (Safari is fabulous) but I feel sorry for the guys that have experienced the problems.
Next stop, Tiger Town.
I've seen enough
Thanks to all the beta testers out there. I'm going to update now that the 'ol .9 has been battle tested.
Edit: Latest update seems to have fixed issue I had accessing a vendor site.
No issues so far, or ever, hopefully!
Thanks to all the beta testers out there. I'm going to update now that the 'ol .9 has been battle tested.
Edit: Latest update seems to have fixed issue I had accessing a vendor site.
No issues so far, or ever, hopefully!
AppleMatt said:
Wow I just realized that places with lots of flash ads are loading very quick! Weather.com always took more than 30 seconds or something just to render, and now it's very fast. Thank goodness.
In regards to the fix for ps fonts, is this why my machines (12"PB, 17" iMac G5) take forever to start up? I've installed 10.3.9 but noticed maybe a slight speed up in start up time (7-8min as opposed to 10).
And I really hope this fixes the kernel panic on my 12"pb (867) that stops the mouse and keyboard from working. It actually froze just as I was about to run this update. With a 10 minute start up time, that bug was really starting to pmo.
And I really hope this fixes the kernel panic on my 12"pb (867) that stops the mouse and keyboard from working. It actually froze just as I was about to run this update. With a 10 minute start up time, that bug was really starting to pmo.
faster Safari; whether to upgrade
nerve.com seems much faster also
Interesting that some people think this update is too much trouble, or too risky to install, and will "just wait 2 weeks" for Tiger - to install the very first version of a major new MacOS release. If history repeats itself, lots of issues will turn up only after public release - some major, some minor - and will take some time to get ironed out. I may get a copy to play with, and I'm really looking forward to upgrading when I'm confident the apps/printer drivers/etc. I use will work, but I'm gonna wait for 10.4.1, or 2, or ???
nerve.com seems much faster also
Interesting that some people think this update is too much trouble, or too risky to install, and will "just wait 2 weeks" for Tiger - to install the very first version of a major new MacOS release. If history repeats itself, lots of issues will turn up only after public release - some major, some minor - and will take some time to get ironed out. I may get a copy to play with, and I'm really looking forward to upgrading when I'm confident the apps/printer drivers/etc. I use will work, but I'm gonna wait for 10.4.1, or 2, or ???
Safari 1.3 lightning fast
Has no-one else noticed this, pages load as fast as Firefox.
Safari has always been slow on by 2mbit line.
Now everything pops right up, and no problems since update unlike other reports.
Power Mac dual 1.25 GHz (FW800)
Has no-one else noticed this, pages load as fast as Firefox.
Safari has always been slow on by 2mbit line.
Now everything pops right up, and no problems since update unlike other reports.
Power Mac dual 1.25 GHz (FW800)
I tried a 10.3.9 install on a firewire (800) drive and it mostly seems ok, but Safari takes ages to load the first time from a start-up (12 or 13 bounces in the dock). After quitting and launching again it loads in one bounce, even if I log out and in again... in 10.3.8 it takes about 2 or 3 bounces consistently (albeit that's on my internal SATA drive). Is it the drives or what gives? Anyone else had a similar issue?
Need Your Help!!! UPDATE
OK Guys,
I've really managed to screw up here. I was in Safari at the time Mac Installer was optimising. At about 75% optimised Safari crashed. I was able to relaunch, but noticed that the version no. was 1.3
Eventually got to the end of optimisation restarted and now when I'm loading pages with tables & images Safari loads the text part, then sits there and wait.
Notably Apple Store page.
Ironic - I was going to buy Tiger today, but can't now.
I've done the usual - sudo periodic repairs, prebindings, cache, disk permissions and even tried reinstalling the update - nothing
Please, please help!!
UPDATE: I found using Firefox that it gets stuck - but still displays the page. However, in the status bar it says "Read a248.e.akamai.net" (When loading the Apple Store Page)
I've had real problems getting the football page from Yahoo.co.uk - Firefox stalls with a message saying Transferring data from eur.news1.yimg.com. But gets nowhere. Have I really ****ed my mac up?
I know this it trying to get something off the server, and it is happening on all the same pages as Safari gets stuck, but it manages to display some images, whereas Safari gets stuck.
I'm on the verge of spending the evening getting hold of my Panther disks and starting from scratch...
OK Panic over - the update fixed Passive Network settings, which were selected for some reason on my network settings - once I got home I tried Dial-up which worked fine - then went through my Network settings and tried again - all great. Safari now does seem faster than previously... Sorry if I caused anyone to hold back from updating - blame my incompetence - had one of those heart in mouth moments...
OK Guys,
I've really managed to screw up here. I was in Safari at the time Mac Installer was optimising. At about 75% optimised Safari crashed. I was able to relaunch, but noticed that the version no. was 1.3
Eventually got to the end of optimisation restarted and now when I'm loading pages with tables & images Safari loads the text part, then sits there and wait.
Notably Apple Store page.
Ironic - I was going to buy Tiger today, but can't now.
I've done the usual - sudo periodic repairs, prebindings, cache, disk permissions and even tried reinstalling the update - nothing
Please, please help!!
UPDATE: I found using Firefox that it gets stuck - but still displays the page. However, in the status bar it says "Read a248.e.akamai.net" (When loading the Apple Store Page)
I've had real problems getting the football page from Yahoo.co.uk - Firefox stalls with a message saying Transferring data from eur.news1.yimg.com. But gets nowhere. Have I really ****ed my mac up?
I know this it trying to get something off the server, and it is happening on all the same pages as Safari gets stuck, but it manages to display some images, whereas Safari gets stuck.
I'm on the verge of spending the evening getting hold of my Panther disks and starting from scratch...
OK Panic over - the update fixed Passive Network settings, which were selected for some reason on my network settings - once I got home I tried Dial-up which worked fine - then went through my Network settings and tried again - all great. Safari now does seem faster than previously... Sorry if I caused anyone to hold back from updating - blame my incompetence - had one of those heart in mouth moments...
I am pleased to report all of my PBs are running 10.3.9 and Safari 1.3. I checked my banks' website and was able to use the online banking as before. I can view Java-equipped websites without no problem. As other posters commented, Safari 1.3 is much faster than 1.2. Since all of my three different PBs are working well under 10.3.9, I think this update was a success.YS2003 said:
Mac OSX 10.3.9=MDD Audio bug still present
No, the MDD audio bug didn't get fixed in Mac OSX 10.3.9 update.
Darn it, Apple! Couldn't you have gotten things right with the final version of Panther!
I guess we'll have to wait for Mac OSX 10.4 Tiger and hope that will address our MDD Audio Distortion Problem.
caveman_uk said:
No, the MDD audio bug didn't get fixed in Mac OSX 10.3.9 update.
Darn it, Apple! Couldn't you have gotten things right with the final version of Panther!
I guess we'll have to wait for Mac OSX 10.4 Tiger and hope that will address our MDD Audio Distortion Problem.
This is from a comment about a hint on macosxhints.comdont24 said:
Here's a helpful comment from another hint:
Just to add another data point...
No problems experienced by me from the update to 10.3.9. I did the "usual" repairing of permissions before updating, and used the large combo updater instead of the incremental one. When I run "java -version" from the command line I get the same result as before the update, so I'm assuming that's all fine (I don't think I have any Java apps to test).
So: the update is not guaranteed to give you problems. I just hope that the "necessity" of repairing permissions before an update doesn't hold as strongly for 10.4.x updates--I'm going to convince my parents to get a Mac mini, and I really don't want to have to teach them too many of the obscure tricks I've learned over the years.
No problems experienced by me from the update to 10.3.9. I did the "usual" repairing of permissions before updating, and used the large combo updater instead of the incremental one. When I run "java -version" from the command line I get the same result as before the update, so I'm assuming that's all fine (I don't think I have any Java apps to test).
So: the update is not guaranteed to give you problems. I just hope that the "necessity" of repairing permissions before an update doesn't hold as strongly for 10.4.x updates--I'm going to convince my parents to get a Mac mini, and I really don't want to have to teach them too many of the obscure tricks I've learned over the years.
They Wouldn't...
But you have to wonder, are these errors there to motivate us to buy Tiger? I switched when it was at 10.3.7, so I don't have much experience, but 10.3.8 worked just fine for me, and 10.3.9 just destroyed safari for me (though i did fix it)! Seriously, was 10.2.9 this bad? Just a thought, totally unsubstantiated.
But you have to wonder, are these errors there to motivate us to buy Tiger? I switched when it was at 10.3.7, so I don't have much experience, but 10.3.8 worked just fine for me, and 10.3.9 just destroyed safari for me (though i did fix it)! Seriously, was 10.2.9 this bad? Just a thought, totally unsubstantiated.
Montserrat said:
this is a very good post
it demonstrates a possible cause for all 10.3.9 update problems
quit all user application/processes before you launch 10.3.9 installer
(or any OS updater)
EVERYTHING!
open ActivityMonitor and make sure that you don't have any java there
if you're running tomcat server or similar java could be a root process
so kill it too
that's what I'm always doing
and I never had any problem with any 10.X update
10.3.9 included
After repairing disk permissions I log out and then log back in to make sure nothing's running . . . it's a bit easier than analyzing Activity Monitor processes. And of course I eject, switch off and unplug (the FW cables of) all FireWire devices.dmarkman said:
trife life said:Safari 1.3 now crashes EVERY TIME it loads a Java applet from Yahoo! Games. grrr... no more Spades, Pool, or Dominoes for me
I should've read this forum before updating this morning.
I'm sorry you're having trouble!
But, I tried several Yahoo Java games in Safari after updating, and they worked for me, so there's hope yet.... Try all the usual suspects...repair permissions, perhaps uninstall/reinstall Java.