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10.4.2 How Many testers?

I have asked this question several times and never get an answer. Its like no one really knows the answer or i'm just being ignored. Hey, it's not like I'm asking for your credit card number folks!! So again I will pose the question. Does anybody know....... about how many testers 10, 20, 500, 1000???? etc.. get the various OS 10.4..... builds from Apple before the final update becomes available to the public? Simple question somebody must know the answer!
thanks
Ben
 
bankshot said:
I did because I have yet to see any mention of USB fixes in all the notes we've seen. For two weeks, a clean install of Tiger crashed on my stock hardware about every other day. Each crash was in the USB driver. After 10.4.1 failed to fix it, I got fed up and went back to Panther. Current Panther uptime: 40 days, 14:29. The best Tiger ever did was 2 days, 23:32.
I noticed the same thing, the system hangs after a day or two if you leave a USB drive attached (and its a hard lock up - only the powerbutton restart fixes it). I finally tracked it down to the USB driver - the console showed an "IOUSB" problem, or something to that effect. Very irritating, if they're not going to fix it.
 
aprilfools said:
I have asked this question several times and never get an answer. Its like no one really knows the answer or i'm just being ignored.

The possibility might be that no one *does* know here... I don't think we're trying to ignore you, Ben, although I'm sorry you feel that way.

The seeds are available to all ADC members at the Select and Premier levels (these are the paying levels of membership, the lower of which, I believe, costs about $500/yr). I have not seen membership statistics, but I would guess that, worldwide, there are on the order of perhaps 10,000-15,000 ADC select and premier members? I think this number might have been flashed up onscreen at a WWDC keynote before, so if you really want to know, find the latest keynote stream and watch the first few minutes.

That is everyone to whom the seed is *available*... dunno how many of them actually install it, but I would assume many do, and assume that developers who provide poorer support of Apple probably do not bother with ADC membership.... Also the companies that have ADC Premier presumably have multiple testing seats, so that might also increase the number somewhat.
 
I am having the same problem with my "Show Desktop" expose feature. Have you figured out how to deal with it?
 
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