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Mac OS X 10.4 Info?
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aswitcher said:
This is the tiger that I would like to see Apple adopt for the next X look.
http://www.5tigers.org/Directory/allabouttigers.htm
very interesting read, but i didnt see anyone mention the most obvious 1 that 10.4 would probably be a complete 64 implementation (at the very least by 10.5) rather than the 1/2 assed mix it is at the moment
stealthelephant said:
That's highly unlikely, given that there are still G4 processors in Apple's lineup. Come to think of it, there are still G3 users out there too if you count buyers of the G3 iBooks. As long as less than 80-95% of Mac users have a pre-G5 Mac (according to Apple's estimates), this won't happen. Remember that it'll probably be at least a year before iBooks get G5 processors; even then, Apple can't expect all iBook owners to get a G5 iBook. I would think the switchover to total 64-bit won't happen until Mac OS XI (11) is released (my best guess is in 2008).
G3 users, it was my understanding that os runs lamely on the older ppc chips, well anyways, since the OS already has significant modifications to use the 64 bit capibilities and maintain its compatibility with the existing 32 bit instruction set, i would not count a large migration from 32 to 64 bit out in the subsequent releases (- maybe something along the lines of seperate installs for 64 bit vs 32 bit in some cases) and go thro a transistion the way windows 16 bit went to 32 bit (windows 95, 98, ME were 16 bit code eventually disappeared)wrldwzrd89 said:
stealthelephant said:
That's a good point; however, I don't think Apple is willing to split up their OS into 32-bit and 64-bit versions. It would be more trouble than it's worth for them, since they'd need to put it on a DVD, and not every (recent) Mac has a DVD drive. As far as I know, Apple's current lineup includes at least a DVD-ROM on every model; the same can't be said of previous lineups, which Apple will surely support.
wrldwzrd89 said:
i dont think they can afford not to take full advantage of the 64 bit instruction set
Apple's already begun making separate versions of 10.2 for G5 and <=G4. Note the 10.2.8 update which was G5 only:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120248
It is possible that a completely 64 bit iteration of 10.3 would exist but only for G5s.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120248
It is possible that a completely 64 bit iteration of 10.3 would exist but only for G5s.
The big question is, "Will this change break any of Apple's applications, my applications, or other 3rd Party applications?". If it does break things, then it's not worth it for ANYONE right now. 64-bit instructions don't matter if existing apps will break.stealthelephant said:
wrldwzrd89 said:
It would seem that since the majority for now is pre-G5, then continue to offer a X version for 32-bit. For those that own a G5 Apple should offer a fully compatible 64-bit version. Then someday in the future, put both versions on a DVD.
Great idea, wdlove! I don't know if Apple is willing to commit the resources to do this, but that would be the best solution (again, IF Apple has the guts to carry it through).wdlove said:
johnnyjibbs said:
Pu$$y Galore???
Don't mean to be crude.
Anyway, Microsoft should trademark the name 'Cheeta' for it's method of business.
I think that the cat name is wearing thin. Apart from the Sabretooth name. And what'll the box look like?
Colonel Panik said:
The Cheetah believe it or not was Apple's codename for Mac OS X 10.0.
The fastest of cats got the slowest of Xes.
nagromme said:
I disagree with the simple fact is that i bought a 200 gig drive to put in my G4, and this dirve dont have nothing on it, took my 10.3 discs and installed with no prior installation os Mac OS, and it didnt ask for proof either.
Every verision of OS X (except 10.1) is a full verision, they can be installed on a fresh HD without a current or past verision of ANY OS. I do it every time a new verision come out, I never upgrade, I start fresh, a small pain in the ass, but i like the outcome better
Jr
sonyrules said:
What advantage have you seen each time when to do a clean install, by which doing a zero erase of the HD? I'm not sure if I'm correct or not, but if you save your Library and would install that wouldn't that save a lot of time? Or is "pain" caused by having to reinstall software?
DaveGee that is a interesting thought about the use of 'Cheeta" and 10.0.
i dont think so....
No its not- I had 10.2.7 on my PB G4 when it was sent off to apple for a new HD and it updated to 10.2.8... but there were G5 only builds of these O/S's
gopher said:
No its not- I had 10.2.7 on my PB G4 when it was sent off to apple for a new HD and it updated to 10.2.8... but there were G5 only builds of these O/S's
wrldwzrd89 said:
I doubt that a DVD requirement would stop them - they could always include CDs and a DVD - that would bump their cost by, what, a dollar a box?
wrldwzrd89 said:
I don't see how Apple can put off a 64-bit version for too long without severely downplaying the strengths of the G5. Unless you go 64 bit, the G5 is really just a faster G4 in most cases, but if you do go 64 bit, then it truly flies.
hmmmm
i dont know much about 32bit/64bit, but wouldn't they have to have two emulators then? classic and 32bit OS X? I'm confused
I cannot wait until 10.4, altho we just got 10.3.3...... i want iSync to actually sync a PDA, even tho im not getting one now, and iChat to have compat with MSN and Y!
nesbitt_a said:
i dont know much about 32bit/64bit, but wouldn't they have to have two emulators then? classic and 32bit OS X? I'm confused
I cannot wait until 10.4, altho we just got 10.3.3...... i want iSync to actually sync a PDA, even tho im not getting one now, and iChat to have compat with MSN and Y!
wdlove said:
Ditto. Regardless of whether the whole line is G5, there will be legacy systems for years to come.