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Themese?

maybe just maybe these are themes? maybe Apple is making it easy(ier) to make themes for OS X? the weird colours the weird shapes and stuff?!

just a thought
MaT
 
PDF analysis

The PDF is a fake as well. Apple does their documentation in FrameMaker and uses distiller. This was done out of text edit and saved as a PDF. The fonts are also the wrong versions. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying it's inconsistent with past versions of such documents.
 
Really off topic, but if Apple (a big name) still uses FrameMaker, then why is Adobe cutting off support and future versions? There are some businesses that use FrameMaker all the time, gggrrrrrr. Sorry.

The pictures are finally starting to grow on me, but that could be because it's 3 a.m. :rolleyes:
–Chase
 
Because they are hoping that InDesign will eventually incorporate part of what FrameMaker was and evolve. Think Suite :) All the more reason it is a Fake, it would have been done with a design ap.. I would think anyway.

Remember, Indesign is to replace all the legacy aps, like FrameMaker and PageMaker etc.
 
i think they look pretty faketo me. i htink apple would come up with something more smart and tidy than that desktop thing.
 
I can beleive the searching the Preferences pic and Safari RSS perhaps, but I think that widget system just looked too hideous and so completely unlike OSX's art direction to be real.
 
Sped said:
One more thing on the wish list is an update to iChat. It would be nice if iChat became a kind of interpreter for multiple IM clients. Wouldn't it be awesome to be able to chat with your AIM, MSN, and Yahoo buddies using a single app?
Yes it would, get Proteus. Now with support for MSN buddy pictures and file transfers:

http://www.proteusx.com/

More Mac OS X than iChat if you ask me.
 
I think it's fairly obvious the widgets in that screenshot are demos of what's possible. I doubt that's the default look that will ship with Tiger. They are simply examples of the system.

The screenshots are real. You'll see tomorrow :)
 
I would really be disappointed if these were the only changes in Tiger. Apple needs to implement features from Longhorn NOW and not after Longhorn is released and has overtaken Mac OS X.

The graphics system in Longhorn is much better than Quartz. That's a fact. So we need an update!!!
 
gorman said:
I think it's fairly obvious the widgets in that screenshot are demos of what's possible. I doubt that's the default look that will ship with Tiger. They are simply examples of the system.

The screenshots are real. You'll see tomorrow :)

I just hope there is more to them than being a complete rip off of Konfabulator...
 
Longey Nowze said:
maybe just maybe these are themes? maybe Apple is making it easy(ier) to make themes for OS X? the weird colours the weird shapes and stuff?!

just a thought
MaT


That is never going to happen. Steve is too Stubborn about not being able to change the look and feel of the OS...
 
G4-power said:
Those widgets, and especially the dasboard with the "X" (Close window?) looks so Windoze. I hope this isn't what we're going to see, but the idea is nice.



I really don't think they look that bad. Would you rather they be Brushed metal or something?

Anyway, I much more interested in seeing, how easy it is to extend the Widget system...If people can make there own, like they can in Konfabulator, I am sure you will see a bunch of "more os x looking" Widgets in a sort order..
 
Hmm

I'm with the majority on the look of that dashboard thing - just a bit too ugly for OS X, if it improves aesthetically then it could be good. One smaller point, does anyone remember seeing screenshots of Panther? I remember the first time I saw Exposé and thought " that's pretty cool". It wasn't until I'd been using it for a few hours that I realised that my mac was nothing without it! I hope it's the same with Tiger - Apple always seem to make things that look better and are more useful when they're working - Fingers crossed for tomorrow...

By the way, what time does it kick off and have they really cancelled the video feed from the conference?
I've got the day off so I can keep up with news!
 
ThomasW said:
I would really be disappointed if these were the only changes in Tiger. Apple needs to implement features from Longhorn NOW and not after Longhorn is released and has overtaken Mac OS X.

The graphics system in Longhorn is much better than Quartz. That's a fact. So we need an update!!!

well we will see what its like when longhorn gets released in 2007 or whenever....

by then mac os xi will be much much better with loads of new featues....
 
ThomasW said:
The graphics system in Longhorn is much better than Quartz. That's a fact. So we need an update!!!

Is this so? All I read said you need a very powerful gfx card (9700 or better) to be able to take advantage of it. That doesn't sound very promising. Could you elaborate a little more?
 
ThomasW said:
The graphics system in Longhorn is much better than Quartz. That's a fact. So we need an update!!!

Really? And what did you expect in the year 2007? I expect the graphics to totally kick ass on every OS by 2007. I don't expect graphic quality from 2004 creeping up in OSX either. Its like looking at OS 10.1 or something.....can't touch Panther with a 50 foot pole.

I think that some of the screenshots are fake, or maybe they're all fake, but all the concepts are real and this was simply a way to illustrate the point. Its like Piles and the diagram explanation given for it by some guy, and it illustrated Piles perfectly when nobody could really understand what the heck it was from the text explanation.

And Tiger will be more than this. This was probably the only info that was leaked.
 
They may be real... but I still can't believe that that's the best Tiger's got to offer.
There's not enough candy in the bag.

I don't need any of those features. Nothing there would make me buy it.

But list the features in Panther that made people fork over their hard-earned... X11, Expose, Fast User Switching, FontBook, much improved Finder and Preview, FileVault etc. (150 new features in all) plus significantly more robust.

Even Jaguar had... Rendezvous; spring-loaded folders; iChat; Windows networking with Dave etc

Stealth and Preference searching fall into the minor category. Dashboard looks like Konfabulator which I've already got. So what is gunna make Tiger "must have"? And why didn't GNAA show the "must have" features?
 
nsb3000 said:
I just hope there is more to them than being a complete rip off of Konfabulator...

Truly - if the big deal about Tiger is that they copied Konfabulator, and there really is no hardware "surprise" (i.e. 8,1), then no wonder they don't want to broadcast the keynote.
 
Sped said:
One more thing on the wish list is an update to iChat. It would be nice if iChat became a kind of interpreter for multiple IM clients. Wouldn't it be awesome to be able to chat with your AIM, MSN, and Yahoo buddies using a single app?

I really want iChat to work with msn, all my contacts use msn for some terrible reason, so I have to use Proteus but it just doesn't compare to iChat in terms of feel. Hopefully there will be some big updates in the OS that we haven't seen yet.
 
this is probably a bit obvious, but i reckon one of the key improvements in Tiger will be cross-platform compatibility - esp with Linux.

Edit:
It's a developers conference - there has to be something in Tiger to make developers salivate - and I reckon this year will be the big year in that regard - but maybe it is Dashboard, maybe it opens up all sorts of development possibilities. I have always said Apple should buy out K and build it in.
 
I guess an important point is in what stage development of Tiger is right now. When Panther was previewed a year ago, it was obviously in the last stages otherwise it couldn't have been release four months later. So the dashboard might be real although it doesn't look OS X like, if it's only in the early stages of development. We'll see tomorrow :)
 
Zaty said:
I guess an important point is in what stage development of Tiger is right now. When Panther was previewed a year ago, it was obviously in the last stages otherwise it couldn't have been release four months later. So the dashboard might be real although it doesn't look OS X like, if it's only in the early stages of development. We'll see tomorrow :)

This would imply that it is going to be released later than Oct 2004...which I don't think is going to happen.
 
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