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Mac OS X 10.5.1 Update Finalized?

It would sure be nice to use Google Earth again, although I doubt this update will fix that.

Maybe iChat will stop crashing.

Or Mail...
 
I hope they fix the MBP screen backlight issue and the screen capture memory leaks
 
did I see that some people are still on Panther?????? c'mon, give me a break, you're obviously not utilizing your Mac for anything worth while. You'll be lucky to even install Leopard on a Panther machine.
 
The update is expected to simply provide stability, compatibility, and security improvements for Leopard.
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Sounds like a Vista update :p


jg2000 said:
what's wrong with stacks?
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Its a pretty solution for something that already was in Tiger. What is wrong with it? It would probably be easier to mention what ISN'T wrong. First off the displayed stack MOVES when you have the Genie effect on. So take your mouse off the dock and your target moves. Its worse on Fan view then grid so I don't use Fan for ANYTHING. Nice design Apple. Second the icon in the dock is ever changing. This is beyond retarded and speaks to the notion that this was Jobs's baby and NO ONE would dare tell him its a flawed idea. I mean really. What the heck use is an icon as a representation of a folder if it continually changes? Third "view as" should have a open in finder so people who want the "normal" view can get it. Fourth. The view is SLOW as hell to show the contents of the icon. I have my docs folder in the dock and it takes a good 3 seconds to change the icons to preview icons granted I have about 50 files in that folder but still. Once you do it once its fine but it looks unprofessional to watch your icons render because Apple did a crap job on Stacks. There are probably more. I can't think of them off the top of my head.
 
Luap said:
Anyway, Why hold of on Tiger altogether just because of this small update!? 10.4.10 is a big step forward over any release of 10.3
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psst... I was kinda poking fun at some people. :D

The only reason I haven't put Tiger on my work computer yet is because I have yet to thoroughly test Final Cut Pro HD 4.5 under Tiger on a non-system-critical machine. It's been on my to-do list for a year, but no time. Too busy mucking around on apple forums.

lord patton said:
1) yes
2) no
3) Only if you're referring to the Old Testament
4) Always
5) I don't think so, but not ruling it out
6) finger to nose

I hate hate hate 9to5mac (see reason 1 above)
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LOL

jg2000 said:
did I see that some people are still on Panther?????? c'mon, give me a break, you're obviously not utilizing your Mac for anything worth while. You'll be lucky to even install Leopard on a Panther machine.
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Do I have to respond to Mr. Angrypants here or will he go away if I ignore him?

My IT dept. wants me to test ALL my critical software before I upgrade, and I'm too busy to test. Maybe someone else can explain it to Snappy McCrabcakes here, because I'm not gonna bother. And yeah, no Leopard on an 800 Mhz, even though it's a Dual core that kicks a single 867mHz core's butt all over town. If you think IT is being unreasonable by making me test the hell out of everything for a year before I can upgrade to Tiger, wait till you hear what they think of my proposal to hack Leopard onto my (their) Dual800. The short version: they think it sucks more than Stacks
 
I hope it fixes these few things:
  • Time Machine all the sudden started to take up 80% of the CPU when doing its hourly backup and take several minutes to backup 2MB. No idea why this happened, as the first few weeks of Leopard this never occurred. Nothing in my setup has changed, heck the external HD is plugged into the same USB 2.0 Hub which is plugged into the same port on the Macbook (changing ports did not fix it either). The Macbook sees it as a USB 2.0 HD too.
  • Don't know if it is an IMAP issue with Mail, but it seems that if I wake my Macbook from sleep mode, I have to force quit Mail and restart it in order for the latest e-mail to be downloaded. Quitting Mail normally instead of a force quit causes it to hang, resulting in me doing a force quit anyways.

Other then this, I am very pleased with Leopard.
 
i have no major problems with 10.5 what was wrong with 10.4.10 why you all want .11 so badly somebody fill me in :confused:
 
Stacks are working perfectly for me. Got my recently used docs as a grid, downloads as a fan. Nothing to complain about here.

I'm just having issues with Timeout Errors with Airport (Tiger and XP are/were okay). Um, forgot the rest :D
 
Another prediction from Stink Secret! Hopefuly it's more accurate than their 10.4.11 release date/posting. :eek:
 
SiliconAddict said:
Its a pretty solution for something that already was in Tiger. What is wrong with it? It would probably be easier to mention what ISN'T wrong. First off the displayed stack MOVES when you have the Genie effect on. So take your mouse off the dock and your target moves. Its worse on Fan view then grid so I don't use Fan for ANYTHING. Nice design Apple. Second the icon in the dock is ever changing. This is beyond retarded and speaks to the notion that this was Jobs's baby and NO ONE would dare tell him its a flawed idea. I mean really. What the heck use is an icon as a representation of a folder if it continually changes? Third "view as" should have a open in finder so people who want the "normal" view can get it. Fourth. The view is SLOW as hell to show the contents of the icon. I have my docs folder in the dock and it takes a good 3 seconds to change the icons to preview icons granted I have about 50 files in that folder but still. Once you do it once its fine but it looks unprofessional to watch your icons render because Apple did a crap job on Stacks. There are probably more. I can't think of them off the top of my head.
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And of course the biggie, that you can no longer heirarchically navigate folders sitting in the dock.

My biggest problem, as you mention, is the ever-changing icon. As I mentioned a while ago in another thread, I have several folders docked, and use each of them for various media files while I work, plus the downloads folder and my documents folder.

As I work, download required files, shift stuff between my media folder and documents folder, the icons are not only changing each time but often end up as the same thing (ie, a Quicktime movie icon, an AC3 audio file icon). Within a few minutes I'm totally lost.

Absolutely ridiculous.
 
Overall Leopard is working well for me and I like it.

But I'm experiencing a problem with Safari not rendering some pages correctly, which it used to render perfectly well in Tiger. This is affecting the Seller's Page on Amazon.com. All the text on this page appears as extremely tiny unreadable clumps.

Also there are several other little things I wish Apple would fix:
  • The Dock doesn't redraw correctly after you quit a graphics intensive app such as the Zinni Zeala pinball game. Some of the icons appear as green blobs.
  • When running the "repair preferences" feature of Disk Utility, the progress bar doesn't give any useful info like it used to. Also reparing preferences only took around ten seconds or so on Tiger, but on leopard it takes about 5 minutes - why?
  • When you select a file name in the Finder, the extension remains unselected - so I then have to reselect all the text.
I'm just hoping that Apple has read my feedback and are fixing these bugs in this release.
 
Sweet!

I hope the graphics drivers have improved some for the SR MBs. I'm so glad this is getting released: I pray that it fixes a lot of the glitches I've experienced so far in a "built-for-Leopard" SR MB.
 
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