The latest seed, 9C25 was monday and had "no known issues" as 9C20 and 9C23 also had "no known Issues". I find it hard to imagine Apple is going to blow through 10+ builds in the next few weeks when supposedly everything works reasonably.
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Mac OS X 10.5.2 Inches Closer... Build 9C23 Seeded
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The latest seed, 9C25 was monday and had "no known issues" as 9C20 and 9C23 also had "no known Issues". I find it hard to imagine Apple is going to blow through 10+ builds in the next few weeks when supposedly everything works reasonably.
In my opinion, what they are announcing is not entirely true.
First of all they mention bandwith problems as a cause for the delay. This just not seems right. Why? Well, because Apple doesn't use their own servers for file serving, they use Akamai instead, which has plenty of bandwith capacity, approximately 2000 Gbit, and uses servers all around the world.
So bandwith shouldn't be much of a problem, I suppose.
For example they served the Windows Vista Beta's, both 32-bit and 64-bit versions which were 2 or 3 GB's each. That didn't result in any bandwith problems as far as I know. Why should an update of approximately 500 MB be such a great deal?
Therefore, 500 MB is pretty much for an update. Normally the size of an update varies between architectures (Intel, PowerPC) and the testbuilds contain a bunch of debugging code. If the normal update will be around 500 MB, the combo and delta updates have to be much bigger instead, they're always.
Second, I think it's pretty strange they announce a testbuild (9C23) which was "released" 6 or 7 days ago and then claim they know the update will be further expanded and delayed.
At the moment, as far as we know, no "known issues" are present and no new OS X client seed has been released. They actually released a OS X Server seed (9C25) yesterday of which are no known details.
This could be reason enough to assume they're pretty near to a release. Usually they release both Server and Client on the same day, so when they release a Server seed, they have to postpone the client as well.
I encourage Apple to take their time for this update, but I think a 10.5.2 release is pretty near. I would say Friday afternoon (EST). I think they'll release a couple of normal software updates tomorrow to be ready for the big release the next day.
Of course, I could be wrong but I just not think the source is right about this.
First of all they mention bandwith problems as a cause for the delay. This just not seems right. Why? Well, because Apple doesn't use their own servers for file serving, they use Akamai instead, which has plenty of bandwith capacity, approximately 2000 Gbit, and uses servers all around the world.
So bandwith shouldn't be much of a problem, I suppose.
For example they served the Windows Vista Beta's, both 32-bit and 64-bit versions which were 2 or 3 GB's each. That didn't result in any bandwith problems as far as I know. Why should an update of approximately 500 MB be such a great deal?
Therefore, 500 MB is pretty much for an update. Normally the size of an update varies between architectures (Intel, PowerPC) and the testbuilds contain a bunch of debugging code. If the normal update will be around 500 MB, the combo and delta updates have to be much bigger instead, they're always.
Second, I think it's pretty strange they announce a testbuild (9C23) which was "released" 6 or 7 days ago and then claim they know the update will be further expanded and delayed.
At the moment, as far as we know, no "known issues" are present and no new OS X client seed has been released. They actually released a OS X Server seed (9C25) yesterday of which are no known details.
This could be reason enough to assume they're pretty near to a release. Usually they release both Server and Client on the same day, so when they release a Server seed, they have to postpone the client as well.
I encourage Apple to take their time for this update, but I think a 10.5.2 release is pretty near. I would say Friday afternoon (EST). I think they'll release a couple of normal software updates tomorrow to be ready for the big release the next day.
Of course, I could be wrong but I just not think the source is right about this.
Good post. I hope you're right! I'm sick of waiting for my few Leopard bugs to be squashed. Are they show stoppers? No, but I'd like them fixed soon.
It seems the folks over at Apple are a bit stretched thin... this is delayed, that is delayed... everything is delayed. I guess with a MacBook Air rushing to the door for release and then a new MacBook Pro around the corner, everything is on hold.
What is this, a Dilbert strip? Already planning around the bugs you haven't yet discovered, are you Apple? This source sounds like he's talking nonsense.
Reminds me of a girlfriend I once had, who said, "I'll probably be married twice." Pity the poor first husband.
Hey, its an excerpt from the link in the post above mine... Reminds me of a girlfriend I had that didn't pay much attention and then stuck her foot in her mouth.
I was pondering that earlier today. I decided that I'd take my MacPro shipped with it, IF that's an issue delaying the MacPro (lot of controversy about that one), and the 'broken' aspect was simply a matter of a few glitches affecting a small minority of the market, IF the update was optional & the glitches (where known) were admitted up front.
I'm thinking at this late stage, they're mostly known or affect a small minority of users, and can be fixed with a subsequent update.
Richard.
I'll take it broken. Odds are the broken parts won't affect me, or I can work around them.
P6
I'm going through withdrawal, i downloaded a trial of iWork '08 just so i could get the update.
LOL - then again, for me I've given Office 2008 a week, and I officially hate it; iWork simply rocks my socks. Does everything I need, and does it alot nicer, simpler and faster - when you consider all the issues with Office 2008 right now.
Call me cynical but I bet Leopard was going to be delayed anyway - OSs always are! And the iPhone was an exceedingly convenient excuse...
Very true. What I'm getting at is that there's all these things on the table:
1) 10.5.2
2) MacBook Air Release
3) MacBook Pro Release
4)
TV "Take 2" Update5) 8800GT
6) iPhone SDK
etc...
Perhaps more time really is needed, but it just seems there's a lot on the table to focus on that was partly promised at MWSF.
Let's not forget Apple isn't a small company with just 10 programmers and designers. It has a huge team - having a lot of products awaiting updates/releases shouldn't matter if the team is big enough.
I've heard it loads of times, 10.5.2 is going to be the biggest OSX update ever. Makes me think there is more to this update than just a few bug fixes. Seems like Leopard was released prematurely, and this is the final slab.
Here's hoping for a Friday release.
I've heard it loads of times, 10.5.2 is going to be the biggest OSX update ever. Makes me think there is more to this update than just a few bug fixes. Seems like Leopard was released prematurely, and this is the final slab.
Here's hoping for a Friday release.
According to the widget its now quarter to 6 in Apple head quarters on Thursday. I'd say that they'll look through, see if there are any screams of anguish from the bug testers, and then push it off to download land for all us unwashed masses.