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Did they get rid of that thing where, if you're in the middle of a list of files in Finder, open one then go back, you're automatically put back at the TOP of the list rather than where you were before?

Or is this one of those "features" that people who stumble too close to the RDF love?
 
Cover Flow in Finder.

Yeah, I made that post in jest to point out the striking similarity between the Finder and iTunes.

Of course, we see it this way because we were able to see the slow transformation of the Finder, but I was thinking about how this will be for people new to the Mac after Leopard is released. For those who are familiar with iTunes, there is nothing to learn -- they'll already know how to operate it. For those who are new to everything, they'll see the Finder interface first, and see that iTunes is the same. Apple appears to be trying to create one homogenous interface system.

It helps that a lot of other programs have adopted the "iTunes style" interface as well.
 
This feature is also pretty useless to any modern website that is driven off of a middleware language or database/CMS. Static HTML pages are quickly becoming a thing of the past.

Translating XML-> XSL/XSLT -> XHTML/HTML/WAP,etc where the entities draw upon database pools is one matter and being raw ASCII is not that big of a hit, but large BINARY BLOBS that via database pools is a huge hit and having Apache 2 precaching and storing them in compressed form is not only important but when it comes to scalability, essential. And since most CMS systems rely on fairly static Headers/Footers [i.e., Reusable components] you would want to cache those as well. It's only the dynamic tags that will be touched so even today's Dynamic websites rely heavily on static content.

WebObjects was designed with such in mind and so is Cocoon 2, Microsoft ASP.NET, Ruby Rails, PHP, etc.
 
I need to use it for a while before giving my impression, because as it stands right now, the Tiger Finder is highly underserving. It lacks so many features that have been mainstays in the Windows Explorer for years. When I had to get a Windows laptop for work, I was amazed at what I could accomplish inside the Explorer.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I find that the Windows Explorer is missing a number of features that have been standard in the Mac OS Finder for years. I use Windows every day at work, and use Mac OS every day at home. I prefer the Finder hands down. And, I am really looking forward to the new features of Leopard.
 
I need to use it for a while before giving my impression, because as it stands right now, the Tiger Finder is highly underserving. It lacks so many features that have been mainstays in the Windows Explorer for years. When I had to get a Windows laptop for work, I was amazed at what I could accomplish inside the Explorer.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I find that the Windows Explorer is missing a number of features that have been standard in the Mac OS Finder for years. I use Windows every day at work, and use Mac OS every day at home. I prefer the Finder hands down. And, I am really looking forward to the new features of Leopard.
Once again, examples of features and situations would really help.
 
I have no idea what you're talking about. I find that the Windows Explorer is missing a number of features that have been standard in the Mac OS Finder for years. I use Windows every day at work, and use Mac OS every day at home. I prefer the Finder hands down. And, I am really looking forward to the new features of Leopard.

I have to agree with Mozmac, it's always been a source of frustration for me that finder doesn't have quick preview short of opening the files up in Preview or iPhoto. For the past year at least,anytime somebody gives me a CD of imges that I need to review quickly, I've opened it on a PC.

Coverflow in finder is hopefully exactly the medicine to cure the fanboy tick caused by this glaring shortcoming.
 
Yeah, I made that post in jest to point out the striking similarity between the Finder and iTunes.

Of course, we see it this way because we were able to see the slow transformation of the Finder, but I was thinking about how this will be for people new to the Mac after Leopard is released. For those who are familiar with iTunes, there is nothing to learn -- they'll already know how to operate it. For those who are new to everything, they'll see the Finder interface first, and see that iTunes is the same. Apple appears to be trying to create one homogenous interface system.

It helps that a lot of other programs have adopted the "iTunes style" interface as well.

Does Finder now open the files when hitting RETURN or is it still trying to rename it?

I would like to be able to sort all my folders together and not have them mixed with files - just makes it harder to navigate deep file hierarchies.
 
Does Finder now open the files when hitting RETURN or is it still trying to rename it?

I would like to be able to sort all my folders together and not have them mixed with files - just makes it harder to navigate deep file hierarchies.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you.You want a bunch of folders without files in them ?

Folders do contain files.
 
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you.You want a bunch of folders without files in them ?

Folders do contain files.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Detektiv-Pinky wants the folders organized to the top of the list, like in Windows Explorer.

I want that too, so I guess that's TWO features now from Win that I'd like to see in Finder. (so you don't have to scroll up, the other was fast image preview, remedied (hopefully) by coverflow)
 
All one has to do is click on "kind" and the finder will indeed list folders first.

[edit] I see what he's talking about now.DO'H...hmm..it's never bothered me using coverflow. {/edit]
 
...and love how they clutter up our folders cross-platform. :mad:
-Clive

The DS_Store issue is really a problem. I had to stop using my Mac at work because it was littering up our network shares with DS_Store files. We really didn't have a policy on using personal machines at work and nobody cared so long as you didn't goof anything up.

However, dropping little spam crumbs in every directory wasn't a real transparent way to use my Mac at work. I really wish they'd at least turn this off by default for network shares.

EDIT: looks like you can just do this:
defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteNetworkStores true
 
I have to agree with Mozmac, it's always been a source of frustration for me that finder doesn't have quick preview short of opening the files up in Preview or iPhoto. For the past year at least,anytime somebody gives me a CD of imges that I need to review quickly, I've opened it on a PC.

Coverflow in finder is hopefully exactly the medicine to cure the fanboy tick caused by this glaring shortcoming.

So "Show icon preview" isn't good enough for you? If you want a better preview than that, what's wrong with the column view for getting a larger preview of an individual file?

Does Finder now open the files when hitting RETURN or is it still trying to rename it?

Please, no! Personally, I hate that about Windows.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Detektiv-Pinky wants the folders organized to the top of the list, like in Windows Explorer.

I want that too, so I guess that's TWO features now from Win that I'd like to see in Finder. (so you don't have to scroll up, the other was fast image preview, remedied (hopefully) by coverflow)

While I'll admit that you can't group folders together in column view (i.e. sort by something other than name), I personally have a strong dislike of Windows absolute distinction between folders and files. If I want an entire directory sorted by name, then I'd like to have, for example, Home.html and Home_Images right next to each other. Sure, there are times when it's nice to have folders grouped, and Mac OS does have options for that. Windows can't say the reverse, at least in my experience. I'll quite happily second the call for other sorting options in column view. I'll even go so far as to suggest an option for keeping folders distinct from files in all sorting methods, but only as an option. It's not something that should be forced on people, especially people who have been working with the system as it is and don't want to emulate Windows (like me!).

As for a feature the Mac OS has that Windows doesn't... how about folder sizes? Is it so much to ask to be able to see how large a folder is? Sure, I can get that information by getting properties on the folder, but why can't it just display it? Why won't it let me sort a bunch of folders by size? This is something that absolutely drives me nuts! Mac OS has had this since System 7, if not before.
 
looks like you can just do this:
defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteNetworkStores true
If you do that, what happens when you arrange files in a Finder window? Do they stay that way as long as the window is open? I often go to a server, arrange files just so I can see what's there, copy files in or out, and want to leave without leaving a "Mac" trace of my visit, so maybe that's what I need.
 
Does Finder now open the files when hitting RETURN or is it still trying to rename it?

I would like to be able to sort all my folders together and not have them mixed with files - just makes it harder to navigate deep file hierarchies.

In Finder, go to list view, (Apple-2), and click "KIND"
 
I have to agree with Mozmac, it's always been a source of frustration for me that finder doesn't have quick preview short of opening the files up in Preview or iPhoto. For the past year at least,anytime somebody gives me a CD of imges that I need to review quickly, I've opened it on a PC.

Coverflow in finder is hopefully exactly the medicine to cure the fanboy tick caused by this glaring shortcoming.


Press Apple and 3 in finder gets you to the Column view. It allows you to preview the photo and some files. Column view has been available since year 2001, if not earlier.

OSX has Preview selected images as slide show. Not sure when it's introduced. Ctrl click (for the windoze trolls, it's right click) on selected images and choose: "Slideshow"
 
I think what a lot of people are wanting is an explorer type finder.Thats just not going to happen.OSX is Unix not Windows.I'd rather open a Finder window and see a list of what's in a folder than open explorer and see a bunch of garbage with a few hidden trackers,trojans and viruses..
;)
 
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