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Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard), iLife '07, and iWork '07 in March?
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Yes this is true. I don't know why others are having such a hard time with this. Computers have gone 8bit -> 16bit -> 32bit (currently) -> 64bit (is coming/here!)
This is the logical progression of computer technology. XP and Vista have a 64bit version, though 64bit Windows drivers are problematic for many.
Linux also comes in a 64bit distro flavor. And it has a 32bit compatibility layer built in to execute 32bit code. So I assume that 10.5 will be similar. Fully 64bit, but able to run 32bit code/apps.
No wine before it's time
I am (or am going to be) a switcher. So once Leopard comes out, I will be getting an iMac. However, as impatient as I am to make the switch and get my hands on a shiny new mac, I am still willing to wait until the work on Leopard is done in a (hopefully) thorough and well-tested manner.
Whether it's March, April, WWDC in June, August, October or even MWSF in Jan 08
; doesn't matter, as long as the job gets done right. (of course Apple doesn't want to look as foolish as MS did with it's excruciatingly long overdue release of Vista, previous codename 'Longwait').
My guess: WWDC in June.
I am (or am going to be) a switcher. So once Leopard comes out, I will be getting an iMac. However, as impatient as I am to make the switch and get my hands on a shiny new mac, I am still willing to wait until the work on Leopard is done in a (hopefully) thorough and well-tested manner.
Whether it's March, April, WWDC in June, August, October or even MWSF in Jan 08
; doesn't matter, as long as the job gets done right. (of course Apple doesn't want to look as foolish as MS did with it's excruciatingly long overdue release of Vista, previous codename 'Longwait').My guess: WWDC in June.
I wish I had a new Mac to run it on. I bet they will drop G3 support with this OS and finally make my 6 year old iBook G3 500 MHz obsolete. Once they come out with a new MacBook Pro that blows my socks off, I will buy.
Well, now that I apply for the student discount, I'll be buying Leopard on day one, no matter when that day actually comes...
Hopefully they show off new Mac Pros with the Leopard release. I'm thinking if the new Mac Pro blows me away, I'll get one. If not, I'll stick with a 20" iMac and save me some money.
Hopefully they show off new Mac Pros with the Leopard release. I'm thinking if the new Mac Pro blows me away, I'll get one. If not, I'll stick with a 20" iMac and save me some money.
Unless they bundle them and raise the price for Leopard.
I would like it if they were bundled into the OS and Leopard was $169.00 instead of $129.00. Much better than shelling out $79.00 a year for iLife.
An opinion on design is a subjective thing, so I think you should leave people alone and let them express themselves. If you have an opinion, fine, but you can't say that others are not welcome here just because they don't automatically subscribe to the notion that 'vista sucks'.
Also let's not forget that Think Secret said "AS EARLY AS March" Talk about waffling!
If it comes out in March or anytime after they can (and will) say "as we predicted."
If it comes out in March or anytime after they can (and will) say "as we predicted."
I agree with that.I'm a Mac person but It's my opinion that the Aero Glass effect is much better looking than Aqua's "eye candy"
The bottom line is that no matter what interface design is chosen some people are not going to like it.
I like the Aqua look and while a small change or two is fine I would rather they improved things under the hood rather than fretting about eye candy. Believe it or not alot of people do not want or like their computers to change. Especially in a production environment. There are quite a few design pros I know who do not upgrade anything unless they absolutely have to. The reason is that they use computers as a tool rather than a hobby or diversion. They do great work and get paid and have minimal down time for learning upgrades.
I am very happy Apple is continuing to spend more time making the OS run and function transparently. Ultimately computers should be far more intuitive to use. The less you have to deal with the machine the more you can devote to doing more compelling creative work.
Unless they bundle them and raise the price for Leopard.
I would like it if they were bundled into the OS and Leopard was $169.00 instead of $129.00. Much better than shelling out $79.00 a year for iLife.
i think they should put ilife back into osx without raising the price, like it was a couple years ago (although to be fair that was before garageband and without idvd, so maybe a $10-$20 jump in price would even things out).
part of me wants to IMMEDIATELY jump on Leopard when it comes out, and my conservative part says "wait!"
I am (or am going to be) a switcher. So once Leopard comes out, I will be getting an iMac. However, as impatient as I am to make the switch and get my hands on a shiny new mac, I am still willing to wait until the work on Leopard is done in a (hopefully) thorough and well-tested manner.
Whether it's March, April, WWDC in June, August, October or even MWSF in Jan 08
Glad you're making the switch, but Vista's codename was "Longhaul".
In answer to your question, I will take my time getting Leopard. Basically I upgraded from Jaguar to Panther because I had to. But Panther is plenty good enough, so I will have the luxury of time to see just what is better in Leopard to justify an upgrade. Bearing in mind my PB is 4 years old, there will probably be graphics improvements in Leopard that I cant take advantage of...
True, and its good to wait, but that doesnt mean you dont want it...just that it economically and traditionally makes sence to not.
They are required to support you until your computer is 8 years old i think. However, i do believe it wise to upgrade to a newer computer soon, unless you dont need to, just an opionion
They aren't required to support your machine for any length of time at all. They could even stop supporting MacBooks today if they wanted. Where did you pull 8 years from?
You are wrong about that. Ever since Mac OS X was developed, Apple has been working on an Intel version along side of the PPC version but, they kept it a secret. Tiger was not ported from the PPC version! Mac OS X in general has been Intel compatible since the beginning but, only the PPC version was ever shipped until Apple announced the Intel Macs.
Does anyone have the official Apple document that states this because I actually remember Steve mentioning this from when the Intel switch was first announced.
I'm not sure, haha i did just read that from somewhere awile ago, so yeah i dont know if it true...sory bout that.
And i think there would be a few problems if they decided to drop support for the new macbooks, so im gunna say they couldn't drop support for that now,
I don't think there was an official document about this, but SJ did mention it during his WWDC keytnote on June 6, 2005. MacWorld provided a partial transcript of the keynote, in which SJ said the following:
You are correct - but the statment that OS X for intel has been in developemnt along-side the PPC version all these years is a little misleading. True - Apple were keeping the OS design "platform agnostic", but the Intel version had not been optimised (the PPC version gets "faster" with each release). Neither had the Intel version been so extensivly tested as the PPC one. It took Apple time to get OS X for intel ready for prime-time. They had to add Rosetta. They had to get their own apps up to speed too. They had to go from "only just works" to "Just Works!". That they did this in a remarkably short time span and with so few problems (for the average user) is a testament to just how well the team keepig the "super-secret" Intel version going did their job, and to the guys who delivered Tiger for Intel. No way was this a simple project.
One of the "hidden" reasons why I'm eager to see Leopard is that this will be the first full release for the Intel platform. Asside from the features that have been previewed, I'm looking to see some nice performance gains from optimization for the Intel-based systems Apple have released.
What will be real interesting is how fast Apple will roll on to 10.6 (hope they call it Liger
). MicroSoft have announced they have started work on "Vienna" - the replacement for Vista - and are targeting release for 2009http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20070209/tc_infoworld/85937
Is that the sound of photocopiers I hear????
I think it's a little unrealistic to expect a new UI, no matter when the release date. It'd be a pretty amazing feat to release the iPhone and a new version of OSX with a completely revamped UI within a 6 month time frame.
I'm not sure, haha i did just read that from somewhere awile ago, so yeah i dont know if it true...sory bout that.
And i think there would be a few problems if they decided to drop support for the new macbooks, so im gunna say they couldn't drop support for that now,
Well you were part right. I believe that they are obliged, (at least in the EU), to ensure parts are available for models for around 10 years, actual length unknown.
For software and OSes, there is no time limit to my knowledge, but if they dropped install options for a machine less than 5 years old on this front too, there may be too much of an uproar from consumer groups. The worst extent I have seen is with new printers and such required 10.3.9 installed, which is now almost 2 years old. The way I guess they could get around this would be to say if the machine supports 10.4, which is still available to purchase, they can upgrade to that and install the new printer. Therefore support is still there to install new hardware and software.