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Funny, I never really payed attention if any of my macbooks goes out of sleep right after open the lid. I might as well hit unconscious the spacebar as automatic reflex to wake the computer up.

I think a lot of this "MBA has this issue where you need to hit a key to wake up" stems from the not-so-instant Instant-On. If the MBA has been sleeping for more than 1 hour, it is in hibernate mode and not just stand-by. It will take about 5 seconds to wake back up in that state (as opposed to a MB or MBP that would take a good 20-25, with a gray screen and progress bar).

If it really bugs you, you can always just disable hibernate completely, like I had done on my MB. Of course, doing that, you can kiss the 30 days of stand-by time goodbye.
 
No no - once the latch is open the computer should defo wake up from sleep.

A lot of people including me, used to have this wake up problem on our MBPs in the past. It got eventually fix after several Firmware and OS updates.

It's incredible how Apple manages to fix problems that would typically be considered hardware failures, with just a software update. It shows how configurable is the hardware either by modifying it's chipsets or the drivers, compared to years ago, when the firmware of a component was on ROM and the drivers had limited control of the component.
 
Bas,

I totally agree its a well designed product, a real advance in technology and is great to look at. Ill say that I would love one but its frustrating to read that so may Apple products are increasingly having issues. I think whats annoying is the high premium that is paid fro the products.

Cant fault them though they have released the SW update to resolve but IMO this shouldnt be an issue. Intensive R&D and testing would have flagged this problem way before production.

Regards
Stu

You only hear about the problems. People rarely post to say "OMG MY MBA WORKS PERFECTLY!" so all you hear are people who have issues. Virtually every single electronic device has at some point in its history been released with a faulty part. It's what warranties are supposed to be for. Apple has a great track record for releasing products that work, and I have yet to see any hard data that proves otherwise.

EDIT: Oh yah, my mom just got herself an MBA since she doesn't need anything powerful, and it has no issues whatsoever.
 
You only hear about the problems. People rarely post to say "OMG MY MBA WORKS PERFECTLY!" so all you hear are people who have issues. Virtually every single electronic device has at some point in its history been released with a faulty part. It's what warranties are supposed to be for. Apple has a great track record for releasing products that work, and I have yet to see any hard data that proves otherwise.

OMG MY MBA WORKS PERFECTLY!

Happy pappy ? :D
 
Oh, the irony. It's unfortunate that your iPad was a "useless toy". Your choice of language belies your entire argument. You're exhibiting every bit as much bias and pigheadedness as that which you rail against. Backing up your argument using quaint Schwabian proverbs is always good for a laugh.

And you wrote:


Seriously? What people write on forums sways that you much? And again, aren't you exhibiting the exact same mindless bias of which you seem so deeply offended?

And I thought that phrase they have in Germany was going to be, "Das PC ist kaput!" or maybe even "Dude, du bist immer ein Dell!" :rolleyes:

(to save time in looking up translation: 'The PC is broken, shattered, done in, had it, ruined, bust...' AND the other phrase, it's a classic, 'Dude, you're getting a Dell!')
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You do get my point though, yes?

Yes, people who don't have an issue rarely have a reason to post. Hence the negative loud mouths get all the air time on forums. A fact that we've had to live with since electronic communication has been deployed on a large scale.

As I have pointed out though, the MBA forum here on MacRumors has been pretty positive for the last few weeks, which seem to indicate that the hardware is not as flawed as Page 1 might want to make it seem. A few isolated cases of "I absolutely refuse to quietly get mine exchanged!" have popped up, but there's always a few people around with a victim complex that needs nourishing.

I really want an Air but I need the graphics processing of a MBP :( gah!

Define need and graphics processing. A lot of people think they need more than they really do.
 
I really want an Air but I need the graphics processing of a MBP :( gah!

As a graphic designer, I find this Air cranks out enough power to run CS5 (Design) quite nicely and could actually be used as my main machine if needed. However, if by graphics you meant more along the lines of Affect Effects, FCP...etc., then yes, the Air would melt, but smile while it's doing it. ;)

D.
 
Recently however, all I see from you his hate for Apple. Now whereas I'd have thought pretty much the same as you thought after reading rdlink's post, all you seem to do now is criticise Apple.

And this is great balance for all Apple fanboys over here.
I really like Apple products but I'm not afraid of criticizing them if they are not fulfilling my needs or are faulty.
I use modern Windows computers and Nokia phones, too. So I have something to compare Apple to.

And I just don't understand how come one can be an Apple evangelist no matter what. Or any other company's evangelist.

I'm not saying you are one of them.
I'm just saying it is good that someone criticizes Apple here on Apple-centric forum. As long as the reasons to criticize are fair. It means the person has open mind and is not locked in some "Ideal World of Apple".

Did it ever come to you someone may have legit reasons to dislike Apple?

Just because I love Joe Satriani I comprehend the fact my neighbor may not like him. And on the contrary, because I don't like Lady GaGa doesn't mean I will treat those who like her as my enemies.

It is all about balance.
 
Same here. 13" MBA. Also have issues with AirPort Express Connection. It drops from time to time. Signal is full (they are 3 feet apart).

My 11 inch MBA does this. Took it to the Apple store-they are sending me a new one.
 
Playing steam games and blizzard games that can't handle the 320m GPU.

Since StarCraft II runs fine on the 320M, I don't really see which Blizzard game you are referring to.

But indeed, the MBA is not a gaming machine (and really, a MBP isn't either, you'd get much more horse power per dollar with something else for gaming).
 
You base this on ? Seriously, if this issue was spread to all MBAs, the forums would be flooded with complaints. As it stands, this seem to be something you shouldn't just live with and you should get yours exchanged now instead of repaired later on.

If it's a loose wire, it's a manufacturing defect and all units are not affected at all.

i base this on having 12 customers with the issue, it IS AN ISSUE

the wire is becoming loose from something thats not really known yet(but is believed to be keyboard related), apple is collecting information on it.

not everyone uses forums....actually most do not.
 
I think a lot of this "MBA has this issue where you need to hit a key to wake up" stems from the not-so-instant Instant-On. If the MBA has been sleeping for more than 1 hour, it is in hibernate mode and not just stand-by. It will take about 5 seconds to wake back up in that state (as opposed to a MB or MBP that would take a good 20-25, with a gray screen and progress bar).


No, that definitely was NOT the case with mine, unless it's supposed to take 10 minutes to wake up from deep sleep, or not respond to any keystrokes, etc. Plus, it would act up even when it was plugged in (which means that it never went into deep sleep).

There is definitely an issue with MacBook Airs not waking up from sleep, and it was not fixed by 10.6.5. That was the first thing I did last week when I got my first MacBook Air, before I even knew I had a defective unit. My replacement has been fine.
 
I had this problem, today, on my brand new (1 week old) Mac Book Pro 15" Core i7. Sadly, I have 10.6.5 already. So I have my concerns...
Joseph Elwell.

So cleary you're posting from the Apple store because you already brought your machine in for a swap for a brand new one...right?

Why would anyone tolerate even the slightest issue with a BRAND new Apple product? You shouldn't. The longer you delay, the more it becomes your problem instead of Apples.

Make an appointment. Walk in. Say "just bought it, its defective, want new one"

You'll walk out with a new one, if they have one in stock.
 
i base this on having 12 customers with the issue, it IS AN ISSUE

I didn't say it wasn't, I said it wasn't an issue WITH ALL UNITS.

Process exchanges for your 12 customers instead of waiting for Apple. That's what warranties are for.

There is definitely an issue with MacBook Airs not waking up from sleep, and it was not fixed by 10.6.5. That was the first thing I did last week when I got my first MacBook Air, before I even knew I had a defective unit. My replacement has been fine.

Of course a few defective units are to be expected and the proper response is to get it exchanged. Not to cry on forums. And again, with the overwhelming positive response this thing is getting, any issues right now seem to be within normal manufacturing defect threshold, there is no evidence of widespread issues.

Why would anyone tolerate even the slightest issue with a BRAND new Apple product? You shouldn't. The longer you delay, the more it becomes your problem instead of Apples.

Surprising isn't it ? But this is not only Apple, it seems there's a whole lot of people out there who'd rather play victim on the Internet then get their stuff serviced.
 
It's unbelievable how full of crap those two statements are -- but sadly, it's also typical for the stereotype Mac user to put something like that on the Internet.

We have a saying in Germany, let me translate it for you: "Other mothers have beautiful daughters, too." Just because you're so proud of your consumer good "designed by Apple in California" that doesn't automatically mean that everything non-Apple is a POS by default.

I tell you what: It's BS like the above and the mindset of the average Mac user on the Internet that really makes me hate everything Apple.

Here are some Macrumors headlines for you:

My 15" Dell XPS M1530 wakes up every time I open the lid. It stays connected to my Linux WLAN router in the other room, and never flickers. It even runs flawlessly with Ubuntu Linux and even works with Mac OS X, if I want to.

My 27" iMac i5 hums along with no performance or display issues. But it's even faster when I boot it into 64-Bit Windows 7 - does that make it a "plastic Windows box", too?

My iPad was a useless toy, thus I returned it to Apple.

My iPhone works on an acceptable level, but it certainly is not the answer to all our smartphone prayers.

Couldnt have said it better myself!!!
 
It's unbelievable how full of crap those two statements are -- but sadly, it's also typical for the stereotype Mac user to put something like that on the Internet.

We have a saying in Germany, let me translate it for you: "Other mothers have beautiful daughters, too." Just because you're so proud of your consumer good "designed by Apple in California" that doesn't automatically mean that everything non-Apple is a POS by default.

I tell you what: It's BS like the above and the mindset of the average Mac user on the Internet that really makes me hate everything Apple.

You make the incorrect assumption that I am an "average" Mac user. Fact is, I am an IT professional. And I have worked with and supported Windows machines for over 20 years. Everything from Windows 3.1 to Windows 7. I have bought, owned, built and supported more different types of Windows-based hardware than most people even know exist. I know intimately of Windows, Dell, Compaq, HP, Lenovo, Acer and Gateway. I built a Windows Media PC before Microsoft did. I am responsible for assuring that over 2000 Windows machines boot and work for their users on a daily basis. I make a very lucrative living supporting Windows. I know of what I speak. I choose to use Apple when I don't have to use Windows.


My 15" Dell XPS M1530 wakes up every time I open the lid. It stays connected to my Linux WLAN router in the other room, and never flickers. It even runs flawlessly with Ubuntu Linux and even works with Mac OS X, if I want to.

I'm happy for you. Your statement kind of helps to make my point, though. The XPS is not the typical plastic Windows POS. It was Dell's attempt to head off MacBook competition. I know, because I strongly considered the 13" version when I bought my first MB. Of course, back then the only OS available on the XPS was Vista. No way was I letting that syphilis back in my home.

Impressive that you know how to root your router with Linux. Done the same myself in the past. Of course now I just prefer to buy a router that works like I want it to out of the box.

I've also run Ubuntu on my Mac, Windows machines and dedicated hardware. I don't find it useful for my needs. Don't have time to finish baking it. I don't have any half-built cars in my garage, either.

My 27" iMac i5 hums along with no performance or display issues. But it's even faster when I boot it into 64-Bit Windows 7 - does that make it a "plastic Windows box", too?

I call BS on this one, my friend. I, too run Win 7 64-Bit on my 27" iMac. While I agree that it does run much better on the iMac than it does on my $2000 Dell Latitude, it definitely does not run better than OS X. It is funny that Apple can do a better job of providing Windows drivers for their hardware when they've only supported Windows for about 3 years or so, than Dell can after over 20 years.

My iPad was a useless toy, thus I returned it to Apple.

Your choice. My first reaction to that would be that you appear to have no imagination. I use my iPad for business and personal use every day. I will admit that it is now more useful than it was before I put 4.2 on it. But I knew that going in.

My iPhone works on an acceptable level, but it certainly is not the answer to all our smartphone prayers.

And no smartphone ever will be. As someone who's carried Palm devices, Windows Mobile phones, countless Blackberries, and multiple Android phones, I keep going back to my iPhone. Overall, it gives me what I want. I played with the new Win 7 Mobile. Not bad, and it has some promise. But I'm afraid that MS has cried wolf too many times over the years, and it's too late for them to get the market share back that they gave up to Apple and Google in the smartphone sector.
 
The reason why nobody is raising a stink about 2003 Dell laptops is because:

A. Nobody gives a damn.

B. Everyone expects the typical plastic Windows box to be just a low margin POS, and is actually pleasantly surprised when they get the extra mileage out of it.

It's unbelievable how full of crap those two statements are -- but sadly, it's also typical for the stereotype Mac user to put something like that on the Internet.

They aren't full of crap. I have known many Dell enthusiasts. I only know that they were such because I asked them. Nobody talks about Dell except when requested, not even CTOs who saved a bundle buying them in bulk, like paper plates. Like nobody talks about the pavement on the sidewalk unless they trip over something. It's just "there". Dell is just "there".

About laptops, people talk about Apple, they talk about IBM/Lenovo, there's even lots of Asus talk the last year or 2. But Dell?

And I'm not intending any disrespect to Dell. This is basically what Mike wants and pursues. Model T, everyone has one. Business = success, boring.
 
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