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Mac OS X 10.6.5 Addresses Display Issues on New MacBook Air

I bought my 11" a few weeks after launch. Might be a initial run issue.

As far as SCII, no laptop is going to run it on Full Ultra @60fps like a desktop with 4gb ram and a Radeon 5870 gpu.

It runs fine on low, and looks decent enough
 
Winni said:
It's unbelievable how full of crap those two statements are -- but sadly, it's also typical for the stereotype Mac user to put something like that on the Internet.

We have a saying in Germany, let me translate it for you: "Other mothers have beautiful daughters, too." Just because you're so proud of your consumer good "designed by Apple in California" that doesn't automatically mean that everything non-Apple is a POS by default.

I tell you what: It's BS like the above and the mindset of the average Mac user on the Internet that really makes me hate everything Apple.

Here are some Macrumors headlines for you:

My 15" Dell XPS M1530 wakes up every time I open the lid. It stays connected to my Linux WLAN router in the other room, and never flickers. It even runs flawlessly with Ubuntu Linux and even works with Mac OS X, if I want to.
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Hey Winni, here's my experience. My Dell laptops at work have had to be re-imaged five times in the last two years because of hardware and/or Windows software issues. And God forbid I actually ever take that laptop out of its docking station and walk around with it to meetings. It locks up entirely causing me to have to do a forced shutdown at least once or twice a day. Even though our CIO has mandated that everyone use Dell laptops, I refuse. I now leave my Dell laptop docked and only use it for email and working on spreadsheets. Instead I bought a MBA out of pocket and carry it around to meetings and I do all my work with it because it just works. I can't continue to have my productivity impaired and risk losing my job just because my company wants me to run Dell/Windows. IMHO, Dell/Windows 7 = POS.
 
Dammit Cubs said:
The one that people aren't talking about and the one I returned my MBA to get another one was the...waking up from sleep and your backlight doesn't work. That was tried on both version of OSX and still failed.

...your move apple.
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Ditto. 10.6.5 did not fix my issue with 13" not waking from sleep occasionally (force reboot required). Never saw the "flicker"...
 
TuckBodi said:
Did they fix the non-lighted keyboard?
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hahaha that is too good.

I had no idea it didn't have a lighted keyboard till it arrived in the mail. Not sure if it would work due to the light from the screen, but what do you think if they made the white letters of the keyboard glow in the dark?
 
Has anyone had display/flicker issues with a 13 in MBA purchased in the last few weeks? Some are suggesting this problem is only occurring on the initial production run of MBA's, so I figured we would track those who have purchased very recently....
 
Dammit Cubs said:
The one that people aren't talking about and the one I returned my MBA to get another one was the...waking up from sleep and your backlight doesn't work. That was tried on both version of OSX and still failed.

...your move apple.
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But that happens on all Macs I've seen from time to time, since Leopard came out, I don't think that's a returnable.
 
rdlink said:
And to take it a little further, it sounds like some of the complaints I'm reading here are per unit issues. Let's not forget that any time someone sells hundreds of thousands or millions of a product some of the units are going to be defective. Apple is in some ways a victim of their own success here. The microscope is on them. Any time someone sees Apple in a web page headline these days they click the link, and the story ends up going viral. It's even more magnified here at Macrumors.

The reason why nobody is raising a stink about 2003 Dell laptops is because:

A. Nobody gives a damn.

B. Everyone expects the typical plastic Windows box to be just a low margin POS, and is actually pleasantly surprised when they get the extra mileage out of it.

Here are some Macrumors headlines for you:

My 15" MBP wakes up every time I open the lid. It stays connected to the Time Capsule in the other room, and never flickers.

My 27" iMac hums along with no performance or display issues.

My iPad works as advertised, and also stays connected to my wireless network.
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Here are some Macrumors headlines for you:

My 15.6" $400 Toshiba laptop wakes up ever time I open the lid. It stays connect to my network and i can access all my shared folder and never flickers.

My 4 customer build PC works in excellent condition with no performance or display issues.

My iPad Touch just not work. It refues me connct to school's network, Safari will randomly close and i can't watch flash videos.

My iPad doesn't work as advertised, and my Blackberry stays connect to both my netowrk and school's network.

So what, Apple epic fail and PC/Blackberry epic win.

macdaddy57 said:
Hey Winni, here's my experience. My Dell laptops at work have had to be re-imaged five times in the last two years because of hardware and/or Windows software issues. And God forbid I actually ever take that laptop out of its docking station and walk around with it to meetings. It locks up entirely causing me to have to do a forced shutdown at least once or twice a day. Even though our CIO has mandated that everyone use Dell laptops, I refuse. I now leave my Dell laptop docked and only use it for email and working on spreadsheets. Instead I bought a MBA out of pocket and carry it around to meetings and I do all my work with it because it just works. I can't continue to have my productivity impaired and risk losing my job just because my company wants me to run Dell/Windows. IMHO, Dell/Windows 7 = POS.
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Hello, there. We all know quality of Dell and HP. There are MORE better alternatives, like Lenovo, Asus. Asus has best quality, it even beat Apple. So, yea, i will look for Asus, Lenovo first.

nitropowered said:
I bought my 11" a few weeks after launch. Might be a initial run issue.

As far as SCII, no laptop is going to run it on Full Ultra @60fps like a desktop with 4gb ram and a Radeon 5870 gpu.

It runs fine on low, and looks decent enough
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I know there are couple laptop will run SCII on Full Ultra @ 60fps. Here is one, ASUS G73JH-B1. Intel Core i7-740QM, 17.3" FHD 1920x1080 LED, 8GB RAM, 1TB (2x500GB) HDD, ATI RADEON HD 5870 1GB, Blu-ray Combo Drive, 802.11bgn, Bluetooth, 2.0M Webcam, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit w/ Gaming Backpack & Gaming Mouse. Guess what, if only sells for $1699 on canadacomputers.
 
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Nanasaki said:
Here are some Macrumors headlines for you:

...My iPad Touch just not work. It refues me connct to school's network, Safari will randomly close and i can't watch flash videos.

My iPad doesn't work as advertised, and my Blackberry stays connect to both my netowrk and school's network.

So what, Apple epic fail and PC/Blackberry epic win...
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rofl. Try selling that to someone who doesn't own PCs or Blackberries.

I'm afraid to have to tell you that, as someone who has connected Apple devices, my own and other's on numerous networks, that your problem is likely with the network you're trying to use, my friend. You may want to review the article from a view months ago that discussed how some schools, out of ignorant fear, decided to block IOS devices from their wireless networks. Sounds like you need better network admins.

How's that BB doing with Flash? Or that first Android tablet (the Samsung Galaxy) that got roundly criticized for the crappy performance of Flash in the browser. Ironic, given that one of their selling points was that it supports Flash...

While I'm on my soapbox, I love how the Apple haters of the world like to talk out of both sides of their mouths. When Apple products gain market share, or, as in the case of the iPad dominate a market, we hear things like "mindless sheep who don't know anything about good computers". Yet, when devices like the Android start to get a foothold in the market and gain market share, it's suddenly a sign that the brilliant consumer has spoken. Which is it?
 
rdlink said:
rofl. Try selling that to someone who doesn't own PCs or Blackberries.

I'm afraid to have to tell you that, as someone who has connected Apple devices, my own and other's on numerous networks, that your problem is likely with the network you're trying to use, my friend. You may want to review the article from a view months ago that discussed how some schools, out of ignorant fear, decided to block IOS devices from their wireless networks. Sounds like you need better network admins.

How's that BB doing with Flash? Or that first Android tablet (the Samsung Galaxy) that got roundly criticized for the crappy performance of Flash in the browser. Ironic, given that one of their selling points was that it supports Flash...

While I'm on my soapbox, I love how the Apple haters of the world like to talk out of both sides of their mouths. When Apple products gain market share, or, as in the case of the iPad dominate a market, we hear things like "mindless sheep who don't know anything about good computers". Yet, when devices like the Android start to get a foothold in the market and gain market share, it's suddenly a sign that the brilliant consumer has spoken. Which is it?
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No, no. Friend's iPad can connect to school's network, but just not my iPod Touch. It will stays on log on pages after i type my user name and password, it just won't connect (i am sure i type my username and password correctly). Never mind about that, since i have my laptop with me all the time.

Blackberry is OK for flash, but we all know browsers on Blackberry OS 5.0. Browser on Blackberry OS 6 is awesome. So i updated my Strom to 6.0, it runs just fine.
 
I observed my MBA 11 "Ultimate" very close the last past days. In my case the instant on works as advertised. No matter if I am battery, on Power supply. Even if I switch in between, As soon I open the lid it goes on. Also after a whole night of sleep. Next morning, open the Lid and the great screen smiles it's way into me :D

I also have no wobbles. No death pixels. Never heard the fan's. It never got hot. It is lightning fast. I enjoy this mac more then any of my other Mac's

For what it's worth it. I erased the whole Hard drive, and re-install OS-X from scratch.

With kind regards,
Bas
 
nitropowered said:
As far as SCII, no laptop is going to run it on Full Ultra @60fps like a desktop with 4gb ram and a Radeon 5870 gpu.
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A $1,200 Asus model G73JH-BST7 will. Easily.
Intel Core™ i7 Processor /17.3" Display/6GB Memory /640GB Hard Drive /ATI 5870 1GB.

nitropowered said:
It runs fine on low, and looks decent enough
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Seems sad to spend so much money and be stuck with "decent enough" for the next couple of years.
 
Bubba Satori said:
A $1,200 Asus model G73JH-BST7 will. Easily.
Intel Core™ i7 Processor /17.3" Display/6GB Memory /640GB Hard Drive /ATI 5870 1GB.

Seems sad to spend so much money and be stuck with "decent enough" for the next couple of years.
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Size and weight are a feature. You're selective listing of features does not take these into consideration and as such, we can deduce a MBA is not for you. However, it is not sad that different people have different needs.

That's why competition exists. Asus decided to build you a laptop for your needs, one that can run StarCraft II on the best settings. Apple wanted to build something for people who want utmost portability but retain some aspect of performance, and thus the MBA.

Both laptops have place on the market, and in the ultra-portable market, you'd be hard pressed to find as good a deal as the MBA currently, all features considered (SSD, weight, size, etc..).

Some people are just too hung up on the MHZ/$ ratio.
 
KnightWRX said:
Size and weight are a feature. You're selective listing of features does not take these into consideration and as such, we can deduce a MBA is not for you. However, it is not sad that different people have different needs.

That's why competition exists. Asus decided to build you a laptop for your needs, one that can run StarCraft II on the best settings. Apple wanted to build something for people who want utmost portability but retain some aspect of performance, and thus the MBA.

Both laptops have place on the market, and in the ultra-portable market, you'd be hard pressed to find as good a deal as the MBA currently, all features considered (SSD, weight, size, etc..).

Some people are just too hung up on the MHZ/$ ratio.
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Absolutely. But you are almost too reasonable - for the sock on his forehead guy anyway :D

Plus: There is a reason why the Asus goes for 1200$. The screen sucks. 1600x900 pix on a 17.3" display... And after 3 or 4 weeks you are probably holding the lid in your hands, if the build quality is like the Asus I had a few years back :rolleyes:
 
It is a 1.4ghz how can it get hot LOL

Sound Evolution said:
Not to defend Apple,

But speaking from own experience, Apple did a very good job with the new MBA. The thing never got hot, fan's are silent. This is nothing compared to the first gen. MBA which was really flawed in so many ways.

I don't deny there are people out with issues, and maybe I get the same issues when mine getting older (knock on the wood) but right not it feels like a good designed product. And well if this issue is solved with a software update a few weeks after release, I think Apple did a pretty good job.

With kind regards,
Bas
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KnightWRX said:
Size and weight are a feature. You're selective listing of features does not take these into consideration and as such, we can deduce a MBA is not for you. However, it is not sad that different people have different needs.

That's why competition exists. Asus decided to build you a laptop for your needs, one that can run StarCraft II on the best settings. Apple wanted to build something for people who want utmost portability but retain some aspect of performance, and thus the MBA.

Both laptops have place on the market, and in the ultra-portable market, you'd be hard pressed to find as good a deal as the MBA currently, all features considered (SSD, weight, size, etc..).

Some people are just too hung up on the MHZ/$ ratio.
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Hence the term I use called 'specification fetish' where an individual compares one set of specifications to another set of specifications but as a result can not see the forest for the tree's - sure, I could purchase a more powerful laptop than this MacBook Pro but what do I give up in the process? I am forced to run Windows, the laptop is heavier, the battery life is worse etc. Its all swings and round-abouts in the end, you gain one thing and you give up something else - it is all about weighing up those benefits and costs, and whether they match up with the requirements you have of your hardware.
 
macintoshtoffy said:
Hence the term I use called 'specification fetish' where an individual compares one set of specifications to another set of specifications but as a result can not see the forest for the tree's - sure, I could purchase a more powerful laptop than this MacBook Pro but what do I give up in the process? I am forced to run Windows, the laptop is heavier, the battery life is worse etc. Its all swings and round-abouts in the end, you gain one thing and you give up something else - it is all about weighing up those benefits and costs, and whether they match up with the requirements you have of your hardware.
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And in the end what you are talking about is specs. Is not that funny?
 
lilo777 said:
And in the end what you are talking about is specs. Is not that funny?
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Don't play daft with me, you obviously know when I use 'specification's' I am referring to how much ram, hard disk size, CPU speed, GPU speed and model etc. Either contribute something worthwhile to the conversation or go away.
 
I honestly think lilo just needs to leave -_-

And no duh you can compare a $2000 dollar Dell to a $2000 dollar MacBook Pro.

We're talking about CHEAP computers here.. Not PREMIUM computers like the Dell XPS and the MacBook Pro. XPS probably gets less battery life ( I never used it long enough) and I bet you it runs a lot hotter and weighs more.

You know why nobody seems to care when a Dell breaks? Google "Dell Rumors" and tell me what you find.

You wanna know why else its "possible" nobody complains about Dell or you don't hear about it if they do? Most people buying Dell buy the cheap 500/700 dollar ones. Insperon, isn't? Something like that?

Firstly. You pay 500 dollars for a laptop and it breaks thats your fault. Why complain? 500 dollars for a computer (especially a laptop) is dirt cheap if you think about it. You pay 2000+ for a laptop and something goes wrong, you are going to be slightly miffed because you bought a PREMIUM computer.

All computers have problems but I guarantee you those low budget $500 dollar brick Dells have more crashes than a nascar race compared to any Macintosh sold on the market today. I could go to the junk room in my school and count more Dell laptops than any number of units from Apple or anyone else I could ever own.

So in a way, yeah the poster that said nobody gives a crap is right. Most people buying Dell buy cheap Dells. Thats kinda why they are buying Dell in the first place. If they want to spend money on a nice computer (not counting what has the most (Insert hertz here) that kills battery life and runs like a toaster, stopping it from even serving a purpose as a portable computer... they would probably buy Sony or Asus. And yes, Apple.

Just because HP and Dell and all the low margin (in my experience CRAP companies) sell premium computers it doesn't mean their cheap run of the mill computers aren't piles of turd.

ON TOPIC

My uncle had just gotten his daughter a MacBook Air '11 so she could have something small and light to use (she has friedreich's Ataxia) and the display had that wonky problem. He told me the update fixed it for that computer. I hope everyone else has the same luck =D
 
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