Apple have iStore content caching deals with a lot of ISP's these days.
Which is why the ISP I'm with doesn't meter iTunes or App Store content I download.
Where can I read more about this?
Apple have iStore content caching deals with a lot of ISP's these days.
Which is why the ISP I'm with doesn't meter iTunes or App Store content I download.
Where can I read more about this?
Thats all well and good and I'ma let you finish, but that doesn't stop the worldwide market share from being 4% at the moment.
The "worldwide market share" includes places like India and China, where Windows dominates... but doesn't actually sell any copies of Windows.
Apple have iStore content caching deals with a lot of ISP's these days.
That's what Akamai is for.![]()
You wouldn't be relying on the speed of the Internet at large.
Where can I read more about this?
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but Lion is nowhere near ready for release.
The betas are flaky at best.
No developers have had time to build against Lion for testing.
If Apple released Lion without going through normal development cycles it would be suicide.
Look, I teach CS and Software Engineering outlines development cycles for a reason. I want Lion as much as everyone else but I was a STABLE version that runs all my software. Not a version that is riddled with bugs because Apple is so secret that don't even let developers test their software on the new OS.
Finally, at the risk of being hated, I sure hope Lion doesn't disappoint. Nothing I seen so far in Lion makes me go "Wow!" like previous full versions have (SL does not count).
Oh, and I too would like a DVD...
Cheers!
-P
I don't think piracy is a concern if OSX Lion will cost the same as Snow Leopard.. I know tons of people who've actually bought Snow Leopard instead of downloading it..
Well for one thing, I already know from this forum thread that the disk image within the DP can be made in to a bootable installation DVD. (But it took a few pages of comments before someone came out with that information.)
And if for a fresh install I had to start with my system restore disk, yes the physical media would be worth much extra.
I never said I was afraid of anything. I was replying to a suggested scenario by someone pointing out that it was stupid.
There has been a lot of useful information from various people in this thread and a bunch of stupid ideas. Sometimes the stupidity needs to be pointed out.
Oh as for a "clean user experience", the more steps it takes to restore a system from a clean install, the less clean it is, especially if some of those steps takes hours. And the post I was replying to was suggesting a long time consuming scenario.
Heres what happens when you install Lion. It creates a partition on your mac for recovery. So when you click the installer in snow leopard, before you ever reboot that partition is there. So on the reboot you boot up to that recovery partition. It's just like having a cd in. You can then still choose disk utility and wipe the snow leopard partition if you want or just upgrade.
As KnightWRX said:
Akamai puts caching servers at the ISPs - your ISP probably has a box that Akamai maintains, and that reduces any upstream bandwidth at your ISP's site.
Most of the time the bandwidth problem isn't on the Internet, but on the "last mile" - the connection from your local ISP hub to your house.
Just Yahoo! for "akamai".
Brace yourself for disappointment then. What you've seen is the bulk of it.Finally, at the risk of being hated, I sure hope Lion doesn't disappoint. Nothing I seen so far in Lion makes me go "Wow!" like previous full versions have (SL does not count).
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but Lion is nowhere near ready for release.
The betas are flaky at best.
No developers have had time to build against Lion for testing.
If Apple released Lion without going through normal development cycles it would be suicide.
Look, I teach CS and Software Engineering outlines development cycles for a reason. I want Lion as much as everyone else but I was a STABLE version that runs all my software. Not a version that is riddled with bugs because Apple is so secret that don't even let developers test their software on the new OS.
Finally, at the risk of being hated, I sure hope Lion doesn't disappoint. Nothing I seen so far in Lion makes me go "Wow!" like previous full versions have (SL does not count).
Oh, and I too would like a DVD...
Cheers!
-P
For example, the Pro Apple Wall St Journal even admitted that Jobs was told six months before he released iPhone 4, that there was a serious problem with the antenna.
However the much bigger problem, was the fact that the style and location of said antenna was Jobs idea and he is never wrong. Just ask his worshipers. Ship it, he barked, and ship it they did.
No physical media, no update from me.I have no desire to wait for a huge download on clogged servers.
^ how big will it be, Xcode is already 4GB, it takes awhile. I also would want a USB version so I can install on my MBA's.
I really want to buy Lion through the App Store as soon as it comes out, but I wonder if we'll be able to burn a Lion DVD, using the downloadable version.
There are occasions when a bootable OS DVD is the only way to format your Mac and I really don't want to install Snow Leopard and then upgrade to Lion every time I decide to format my HDD.
~3.5 GB. You can restore it to a USB drive.
Of course, since 3 TB USB drives are only $129.99 at Newegg today....
Quick question, if I buy a Mac before its release will I get a free upgrade?
What? I was aleviating munkees' fears that they wouldn't be able to get Lion onto a usb drive. What does this have to do with 3 TB drives from newegg?![]()
Munkee's question was "how big will it be?" - therefore the fact that 3 TB drives are cheap is relevant.
It will fit.
Two possibilities:
1) You have to buy it AFTER the final Lion release is announced to have a chance to get a free upgrade to Lion upon its release. This meets Apple's requirements from an accounting perspective; they cannot offer you a "free" upgrade unless the final shipping version was already announced prior to your purchase of the Mac.
2) You buy it BEFORE they announce Lion and you MAY qualify for a deeply discounted upgrade like $29 vs full disc at $119 or something.