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Snow Leopard
Like Leopard, only cooler...:apple:

I don't really get the naming convention.

If apple can get true exchange support in Mail, iCal and Address Book for 10.6 I'd be over the moon.
 
And with it they would kill all business support for Macs forever, and probably take the iPhone with it. No sensible business would run business critical software such as CS3 or Office on a depreciated (and therefore unsupported) framework, so they'd switch to Windows.
That's not what Apple means when they label an API "deprecated". Their developer documentation is pretty clear about what it means.
 
If they do this I'm switching to Windows. Dropping Carbon completely would be the worst. move. ever.

Steve Jobs needs to go sooner than Ballmer if he things that is a good move.

I hope you secretly know and believe that his departure (lol - and according to you: because he wants to polish Leopard with performance, security and standards advancement in a timely manner) would only make things worse.

edit: and a lol @ anyone who thinks this would cost $129.
The way Apple operates right now, the difficulty in having a salesfloor worker convince a mildly-savvy customer in an Apple Store to spend $129 on something with no crazy new features or stark visual differences would not go unaddressed. If this is what it is thought to be, an underpinning revamp, they're not charging the same price.
 
It's NOT GOING TO BE Snow Leopard.

Cougar and Lynx are the only two names unused by Apple that they have trademarked. Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, Lynx, and Cougar. Lynx for 10.6, Cougar for 10.7 or vice versa, then on to OS 11.

For the love of god, stop playing guessing games. It's all common sense.

isn't this site kinda all about guessing games? ;)
 
I wonder what the two bridges mean..?? I guess we will soon find out in less than a week but I wonder if i has to do with 10.6 (whatever its name is). Honestly who cares what the name is??? We will all buy it or whatever no matter if it is battle cat or ***** cat :D
cablecutter
 
G5 & G4 are both Ower PC

I have not read up a lot on the 10.6 rumors but i don't see it likely that they will be dropping PPC entirely. I can see them dropping the G4 but not the G5. I mean really, there are Quad core G5 still out there that should still be able to run the next major release of the OS. I see 10.6 being PPC and Intel but 10.7 moving to Intel only.

I know my current iMac G5 runs Leopard just fine and i can't see why it would not handle 10.6 decently either.



And about 10.6 being released in January... I don't see that happening. I think it is to soon for a major release, but a lot can change in that time i guess. To be honest i would not mind seeing Apple move to an every 2 year cycle for major OS releases.


G4 & G5 are both Power PC, so if they support one, they're supporting both.

The most likely scenario is that 10.6 is more of a major-minor upgrade. What I mean by this is that instead of having 10.5.4 (or .5) Apple is looking into consolidating feature set throughout their lineup (Apple TV, iPhone, Mac OS) as was suggested and not change in a major way their features. Also why the y are thinking about using "Snow Leopard" as the code name. They would maintain the base Leopard OS with some minor updates.

Will they drop Power PC support? I doubt it. iPhone uses ARM chips, and Semi-PA has more expertise in Power PC than Intel. My suspicion is that they have a fancy new Altivec type co-processor (Power PC based) which they plan to introduce in their next batch of new computers. Maintain use of Intel to take advantage of their economies of scale and have a second CPU as a differentiating factors between Apple and common garden PC's. " Snow Leopard" might a hybrid OS that can take advantage of this arrangement
 
Here are the facts:

Steve is preparing for retirement, he currently makes $1 yearly salary. He gets paid in stock. His goal is to raise stock prices to the highest he can get then SELL. Then he leaves apple. Nothing else matters. His buddha ideals are gone. He could care less about change, revolution of computers anymore, he wants CASH. So expect the ripoff to continue until he leaves. Then watch apple inc. go bankrupt in 3 yrs. ;)
 
The Mac needs a Finder replacement quick. The Finder is the single biggest crapware on the Mac right now. (Spinning beach-ball anyone?) "Cocoa-only" might refer to the rewritten UI... not axing all Carbon support across the platform.

The Next UI for Intel only? I can see it. PPC could still use the Finder, but Intel Macs can use this new UI Finder replacement.

There's my speculation... I only hope we get a copy if we go, cause I'll be in the audience...

Finder works very well for me in 10.5. I had some issues with it in 10.4, which might be related to the intel transition.
 
Kind of goes against only one OS though.

Microsoft did that. they had 2000, Millenium and Xp home all out at the same time.... While it ran on the same hardware, it sucked trying to be compatible. Also, what about XP home, xp pro, and XP media center being out at the same time. also found that had compatibility issues with software on each. some ran on XP pro, but not media center.

I see a scary thing happening if Apple makes an OS for PPC and a separate OS for Intel. learn from Microsoft's mistakes - don't repeat their mistakes please.
 
That's not what Apple means when they label an API "deprecated". Their developer documentation is pretty clear about what it means.

Its already "deprecated" except for security updates anyway, if they go any further then they'll have to not support it even for security updates which would make it unusable.

because he wants to polish Leopard with performance, security and standards advancement in a timely manner

Timely also means not getting there too quickly.

timely |ˈtīmlē|
adjective
done or occurring at a favorable or useful time; opportune : a timely warning.
 
i think it's about time that Apple gives the axe to carbon. wasn't the purpose of carbon to make the transition from os 9 to os 10 seamless? that was nearly 7 years ago... so why are people still writting carbon applications?

also, carbon is not fully 64 bit compaiable. so it makes sense for the next os to be intel only AND non-carbon. why would you want a carbon application on intel when all the new processors are 64 bit?
 
Here are the facts:

Steve is preparing for retirement, he currently makes $1 yearly salary. He gets paid in stock. His goal is to raise stock prices to the highest he can get then SELL. Then he leaves apple. Nothing else matters. His buddha ideals are gone. He could care less about change, revolution of computers anymore, he wants CASH. So expect the ripoff to continue until he leaves. Then watch apple inc. go bankrupt in 3 yrs. ;)
Facts... where is your citation??? I don't think Steve will leave for a while. He likes his black shirt presentations too much. Haha I can see him in like 20 years in a wheel chair with his clicker in his hand with release of a solar power laptop or something crazy...ha jk
 
why would you need a carbon application on intel when all the new processors are 64 bit?

Because all applications aren't going to be 64 bit for 20 years or more as there is no performance benefit in the vast majority of cases.

I mean Microsoft is still going to be selling a 32 bit OS which can't run ANY 64 bit programs at all for the next 5 years at least.
 
Facts... where is your citation??? I don't think Steve will leave for a while. He likes his black shirt presentations too much. Haha I can see him in like 20 years in a wheel chair with his clicker in his hand with release of a solar power laptop or something crazy...ha jk

I valet and park steves benz. He told me. :D
 
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