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I kinda like the ring of 10.6 Battle Cat

Nice He-Man reference. He would've used a mac...

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It's NOT GOING TO BE Snow Leopard.

Cougar and Lynx are the only two names unused by Apple that they have trademarked. Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, Lynx, and Cougar. Lynx for 10.6, Cougar for 10.7 or vice versa, then on to OS 11.

For the love of god, stop playing guessing games. It's all common sense.

What about a "Lion" OS X or better still a "Liger" OS X? ;P
 
Didn't Bill and Steve just say at D6 that Windows 7 will be out in January 2009???

This is making me a bit nervous. Chances are Windows 7 will get delayed and be very buggy, but Apple really needs to stay the lead with Multi-Touch so that they can force the industry to standard well thought out implementation.

I think that Microsoft has Multi-Touch all wrong with their implementation. I think Apple will implement it with touch screens on its mobile devices as they have, but with the large touch surface replacing the mouse and keyboard on laptops and desktops, which I think makes more sense for realistic use and benefits.

Either way Apple better not lose the ground they have gained against Vista. This is not the time for them to drop the ball, this is their fighting chance!
 
Difference is OS 9 was said to be "dead" for years. Carbon is not deprecated.
I know this, but what I meant was, Carbon is sort of like a "halfway" API, right? I remember in the very first keynote on Mac OS X back in 2000, Steve was saying how Carbon was designed to help Classic apps get some of the new features of Mac OS X, with the idea being that eventually Carbon apps would evolve into Cocoa.

What I'm asking is, why would someone use Carbon over Cocoa? It seems like Apple has always pushed Cocoa as the preferred API.
 
Wouldn't a stability and performance release be a point release? I think 10.6 implies new features, APIs, architectures etc. Isn't that how the numbering scheme for most software works?

Unless the new features are actually some way to "clean out" old features that are potential stability/performance issues? :confused:
 
I guess thats the difference between Microsoft & Apple as pointed by Ars. Apple can afford to cut old technologies from OS (Carbon/PPC) without blinking but MS is stuck with keeping/maintaining old technology in the name of Backwards compatibility

Victims of their own success
 
Its based on BSD, which was based on Unix.

Which BTW is cross platform.

Linux is also cross platform, but hey, we're splitting hairs here.
 
What I'm asking is, why would someone use Carbon over Cocoa? It seems like Apple has always pushed Cocoa as the preferred API.

True but there were reasons to use Carbon, firstly because they had an existing codebase under Mac OS 9, and secondly because they were writing a cross platform application.

Didn't Bill and Steve just say at D6 that Windows 7 will be out in January 2009???

Its not even in beta yet, it'll be at the end of 2009 or early 2010 when it comes out.
 
I guess thats the difference between Microsoft & Apple as pointed by Ars. Apple can afford to cut old technologies from OS (Carbon/PPC) without blinking but MS is stuck with keeping/maintaining old technology in the name of Backwards compatibility

Victims of their own success

Yup.

I feel bad for them. They CAN'T make a better OS. Apple did it by ditching OS9 and giving people a 'classic mode' to ease the transition. They were ONLY able to do that because their market-share was so much smaller. (And their customers buy higher-end systems by default, so they're more used to spending money on upgrades. It's harder to pitch that to people who buy $299 computers.)

MS would be burned alive by their customers if they tried that, but unfortunately it's the only surefire way they could make a truely kick'n version of Windows.

They're stuck.
 
If apple gave us what we wanted we would have...

3. A macintosh that is not a $5000 mac pro
11. an OS we can install on regular PCs
16. They would give us heads up of new products not this secret crap
20. FREE APPLECARE

did I leave anything out?

yeah, world peace, flying cars and dollar bills falling from the sky like a tickertape parade.
 
It's NOT GOING TO BE Snow Leopard.

Cougar and Lynx are the only two names unused by Apple that they have trademarked. Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, Lynx, and Cougar. Lynx for 10.6, Cougar for 10.7 or vice versa, then on to OS 11.

For the love of god, stop playing guessing games. It's all common sense.

Apple never trademarked Cheetah, Puma, or Jaguar, and Jaguar was even used as the public brandname for 10.2. There's no reason why they couldn't use some name other than Lynx or Cougar.

As for OS 11, that would logically imply a whole new OS base. We're not going to see that for a long time, if ever. That would be a transition much more drastic than the one from Classic Mac OS to OS X, and as others have pointed out OS X took a long time to become stable. I don't know what OS base would even threaten Unix at this time.
 
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