Oh, Apple also wins because they will still sell the new OS but I think they are more concerned with positioning the future direction of OS X than with sales with 10.6. Their money is made more with hardware than software anyways - think how Apple sells music and movies at a loss in order to sell hardware with a better profit margin.
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Mac OS X 10.6 Called 'Snow Leopard', All Cocoa?
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Oh, Apple also wins because they will still sell the new OS but I think they are more concerned with positioning the future direction of OS X than with sales with 10.6. Their money is made more with hardware than software anyways - think how Apple sells music and movies at a loss in order to sell hardware with a better profit margin.
Seems to me like "Snow Leopard" is a code name within a certain department. I've heard something about Apple keeping things so hush-hush that they give different code names to different teams and departments in order to easily figure out where leaks have come from.
If that's true, and that's what "Snow Leopard" is, someone might have put themselves under the gun...
If that's true, and that's what "Snow Leopard" is, someone might have put themselves under the gun...
They don't sell music at a loss. They don't make much per unit, but they do make something.
Well no, the only models excluded from this are the newest generation of iMacs.
And then here are the iMac results:
So all in all the Quad G5 is only beaten by the Mac Pro, XServe, the latest iMacs (just) and the top of the range MacBook Pro.
I think they probably make about 15% margins on it...
Actually, this could be quite true. Not only is Apple (and other developers) working feverishly on making Webkit (Safari's core) as fast as possible, they've recently announced a new, much faster, JavaScript engine called SquirrelFish.
In short, the next version of Safari will indeed be snappier.
However, seeing as Apple has been releasing new versions of Safari without releasing new operating systems (Safari 3.1, for instance), we may actually see this speed bump in 10.5.
I agree with that (I think) Ron is saying. People need to go and read the arstechnica post. My reading of the MacRumors blurb paints a completely different picture than my reading of the arstechnica post.
In my opinion, there is no way Apple is stupid enough to get rid of Carbon in January 2009. Apple is really good at ripping the rug out from under their developers, but they aren't that bad. I wonder if there aren't a bunch of individual developer items that are all getting wrapped up into a single rumor.
I wonder if Apple might tell developers at WWDC 2008:
- 10.6 is coming 1H 2009
- 10.6 will be Intel 64-bit only
- Carbon will be officially deprecated in 10.6
BTW, people need to go into a detox program for the PPC Kool-Aid. The market has spoken and non-x86 processors are dead for the desktop and laptop markets. Sun is firmly entrenching SPARC in the server space, the market is driving Intel to push Itanium into the HPC space and IBM is marketing PowerPC in the embedded space and POWER in the server and HPC space. The cheapest POWER6 workstation is slightly more powerful (using SPEC) than the most expensive Mac Pro and roughly $2000 more expensive. IBM won't try to rework POWER6 or POWER7 to meet Apple's needs a second time. If Intel delivers on Atom, that could even spell the end for PowerPC period, outside of legacy markets like telecommunications.
If they drop PPC, that means that 2 to 3 million people will not be purchasing and upgrading the OS.
Speed and stability while important, sound rather boring. What is going to get people to upgrade and shell out $129?
What ever happened to that SUN file system "ZFS" that Apple was playing with?
What ever happened to Resolution Independence?
If it is only speed and stability, why bother showing it to developers? There is nothing new there to show.
Sounds to me like there has to be more than just a speed and stability release, otherwise why not just release 10.5.7 for stability and speed?
Yep 2-3 million ppl will have to spend $1999 to replace their 4 yr old computer instead of $129 for a new OS that it will come with. Seems like good business sense.
I can see this happening. How many keynotes has Steve given where everyone was like what? Apple hardly ever gives us what we WANT. Why should that not continue. If apple gave us what we wanted we would have...
1. Newly designed macbooks
2. 2 button trackpads
3. A macintosh that is not a $5000 mac pro
4. A stable Leopard
5. iphones we can install apps on
6. a new isight camera or cameras in the cinema displays
7. A freakin real mighty mighty mouse
8. Games for macintosh
9. More video card choices
10. Blu-ray drives
11. an OS we can install on regular PCs
12. 24" cinema displays
13. macbook air with more than one usb port
14. removable batteries on EVERYTHING THEY SELL
15. headphones that don't fall out of your ears
16. They would give us heads up of new products not this secret crap
17. black macbooks the same price as white ones
18. new mac minis
19. a damn way to downgrade back to 10.4.11 on new mac pros
20. FREE APPLECARE
did I leave anything out?
1. Newly designed macbooks
2. 2 button trackpads
3. A macintosh that is not a $5000 mac pro
4. A stable Leopard
5. iphones we can install apps on
6. a new isight camera or cameras in the cinema displays
7. A freakin real mighty mighty mouse
8. Games for macintosh
9. More video card choices
10. Blu-ray drives
11. an OS we can install on regular PCs
12. 24" cinema displays
13. macbook air with more than one usb port
14. removable batteries on EVERYTHING THEY SELL
15. headphones that don't fall out of your ears
16. They would give us heads up of new products not this secret crap
17. black macbooks the same price as white ones
18. new mac minis
19. a damn way to downgrade back to 10.4.11 on new mac pros
20. FREE APPLECARE
did I leave anything out?
why do people assume on here that you will have to pay full price for it. For the love you all it is 6+ months away. We all hope it is either going to be free or incredible cheap for leopard members but quick moaning!!! it is too early to start complaining.
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Oooh. Or how about OS 10.6 Bobcat Goldthwait? Now there's software I'd wait in line for.
And with it they would kill all business support for Macs forever, and probably take the iPhone with it. No sensible business would run business critical software such as CS3 or Office on a depreciated (and therefore unsupported) framework, so they'd switch to Windows.
Put away your jump to conclusion mats, everyone. Why would Apple purposefully take away the functionality that many very popular applications need? It is more likely that they will rewrite the remaining Carbon-based parts of the UI and officially state that Carbon should no longer be considered for new development projects.
2 things:
1) I hope Mac OS 10.6 supports my 32-bit Core Duo MBP
2) I hope Mac OS 10.6 does not cost $129 if there are no new features
1) I hope Mac OS 10.6 supports my 32-bit Core Duo MBP
2) I hope Mac OS 10.6 does not cost $129 if there are no new features
Maybe they'll make the scrollbars and progress bars vector and use CoreUI instead of crappy old Extras.rsrc... just an idea.
I think Apple still needs to work more on the GUI... it's still a very important part of the OS... I mean, you have to look at it all day long, it should look nicer. I'm not complaining too much though... at least is not Windows.
I think Apple still needs to work more on the GUI... it's still a very important part of the OS... I mean, you have to look at it all day long, it should look nicer. I'm not complaining too much though... at least is not Windows.
I could care less how much it costs, $129 is chump change compared to having to re-buy the cocoa version of adobe suite! Thats gonna piss me off something fierce. I just finally bought it.
I thought leopard was the new full 64 bit re-write? What the heck?
I thought leopard was the new full 64 bit re-write? What the heck?