Snow Leopard?!?!?!? come on now. Sounds a little dumb, but i guess it's fitting. I say they stop digging themselves in a hole and start using something other than large cats.
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Mac OS X 10.6 Called 'Snow Leopard', All Cocoa?
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Seems like pretty solid reasoning to call this 10.6. If it is intel only it wouldn't make sense to release it as a 10.5.x since ppc and intel have mirrored each other to this point. 10.6 gives a clear definition that its a seperate release. As far as people bitching about $129 no one has said apple will charge full price or even at all. The only speculation on this has been in forum comments. Until it comesfrom apple don't assume its a full price upgrade.
From the Arstechnica post.
Where does that say that they're getting rid of Carbon? It says that things that are currently only available by linking to the Carbon libraries would be made available directly to Cocoa programmers.
As for getting rid of the APIs themselves, it seems more likely to me that Apple would simply re-implement them as wrappers for Cocoa, so that when Cocoa gets updated, Carbon would come along for the ride.
Didn't MS already start this market with pushing those TabletPCs a few years ago? Maybe Apple did not go into it at that time, cause they didn't like the idea of using a stylus. I mean Steve said it in his MWSF07 keynote "Who wants a stylus?"
I think Apple wanted to bring out a TabletMac but they had to develop Multi-Touch first.
Regarding Cocoa Finder
We had a Pure ObjC Workspace Manager->Finder in Rhapsody that was never released.
The same folks still work at Apple in AppKit and Foundation Kit. It's been a matter of Carbon, not a matter of time to make a Cocoa Finder. This has been in waiting for nearly 10 years.
We had a Pure ObjC Workspace Manager->Finder in Rhapsody that was never released.
The same folks still work at Apple in AppKit and Foundation Kit. It's been a matter of Carbon, not a matter of time to make a Cocoa Finder. This has been in waiting for nearly 10 years.
I like the idea of a minor, free update in January; it fits with what Steve said around Leopard's release, and it seems like a typical 'moving-forward-and-ditching-the-old' step.
On the name though, I'm thinking someone was just observing it in use, and said "that's-no leopard!"
On the name though, I'm thinking someone was just observing it in use, and said "that's-no leopard!"
Does this mean that Safari will be snappier? 
Seriously, it would be awesome (coming from the Windows world) to see a release who's only aim is to increase performance and stability.
Rich
Seriously, it would be awesome (coming from the Windows world) to see a release who's only aim is to increase performance and stability.
Rich
If the update is going over 1GB there's no way they can distribute it via software update.
If they drop PPC, that means that 2 to 3 million people will not be purchasing and upgrading the OS.
Speed and stability while important, sound rather boring. What is going to get people to upgrade and shell out $129?
What ever happened to that SUN file system "ZFS" that Apple was playing with?
What ever happened to Resolution Independence?
If it is only speed and stability, why bother showing it to developers? There is nothing new there to show.
Sounds to me like there has to be more than just a speed and stability release, otherwise why not just release 10.5.7 for stability and speed?
Well what if you download this so called "10.5.7" to find out that it took away all your carbon frameworks and caused PPC machines to not boot?
I don't know about you, but I think they might start striving for code leaning. Maybe getting 10.6 to fit on a CD as opposed to DVD? Someone else mentioned that it only come on new Macs for multitouch and available for purchase. Does everyone always need to buy the newest OS? I'm still running Tiger and my computer hasn't blown up
I'm guessing it's a lean running OS without PPC binaries/Carbon/etc.
Apple has already taken this sort of approach with Core Foundation, but offering a C interface to Cocoa in its entirety is unworkable, as the API relies heavily on the extremely dynamic object-oriented nature of Objective-C.
I think Poodle and Golden Retriever would be great! Then when they transition between the two... OS Golden Doodle!
I would so buy that.
Excellent post. Every single copy of a new operating system sold is about $100 straight into Apple's pocket. Even if only 1 million PPC users upgrade, that is 100 million dollars. Now some non-programmers will think that making two versions, both PPC and x86, would be twice as much effort. It isn't. Actually, the requirement that the software is portable between two different processors means programmers can't get away with any sloppy programming, which always ends up costing more in the end.
And there is the future to look to. One, x86 won't last forever. Remember, Apple is in it for the long run. MacOS X needs to run on the iPhone and on whatever small things Apple will come out with. That means either ARM or whatever Apple's recent purchase will be building. On the other hand, Intel could create a new processor, not the madness that Itanium was but something that can last for the next 30 years, with a completely new instruction set, and MacOS X and Mac software will just run.
I would bet that 10.7 will run on a PowerPC. Slight possibility that Apple won't release it, but it will run on it. Apple will not throw there huge advantage of being processor-independent away.
Actually 10.0 was less functional and usuable than Mac OS 8.6. I remember when I first installed it on my iMac G3.. what a piece of garbage that software was.
A couple of comments...
OK, I like and use apple computers (18 of them) but will this be a "paid" upgrade to:
Break 4-G4's I own
To have a more stable OS
All I can say is... Bring it on!
OK, I like and use apple computers (18 of them) but will this be a "paid" upgrade to:
Break 4-G4's I own
To have a more stable OS
All I can say is... Bring it on!
10.6, if only an interim, I wouldn't pay more than $59 for...
Maybe just an interim until OS 11, when Apple "unifies" all its devices into a standard OS (computers, ipods, touch devices, tablet)?
Maybe just an interim until OS 11, when Apple "unifies" all its devices into a standard OS (computers, ipods, touch devices, tablet)?
