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Good to hear they fixed this refreshing bug.

I added a screen recording of it on the previous page.


Also, as Apple mentioned, when ejecting a volume that has a file in use, Finder now tells you what app to close.
 

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So what's with the new 13" MacBook line up and 1.5Gb SATA?

Anyone thinking about SSD for their MacBook or MacBook Pro might want to check this potentially?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/718516/

Old uMB get 3Gb SATA but a 4GB RAM limit, current rev MBP get 8GB RAM ability, but 1.5Gb bottle necked SATA. Apple symbol > more info > Serial-ATA tab on the left

Edit - Relating to SSD performance. Um I tangentise sometimes Sky Blue :) Will fill this post in with Snow Leopard stuff in a bit. Thread seems to have raced through a few pages recently - would be happy to fill posts slower if people read it from where they left off.

Bringing it back on topic - We talk about multitouch, and 1, 2, 3 finger gestures, but will Microsoft have the upper hand soon? Withthe scoop of zcam turning into the Natal project (and getting Jonny on board!) - they could potentially roll this into Windows 8? Wonder what the patent landscape is like for such things and beyond.
Always struck me as odd Apple didn't throw zcam a bit of cash, then booom Microsoft goes and gets the tech. It was pretty obvious similar tech was a potential big money maker through console and other use, and that there's a lot more to be had, than just going with a standard webcam. (Though SCoble's videos have shown, you can use a webcam or iSight to do some pretty cool stuff gesture wise in the meantime).

(Fair play to Microsoft at E3 - expanded Xbox Live, new video store with 1080p content, Facebook & Twitter integration for the Xbox 360, full-game downloads on Xbox Live, several exclusives, then announcing Project Natal).

Imagine Jonny actually getting pseudo 3D integration pushed through. That and Natal would be a game changer. Or console upgrader...


InkMaster has posted a Quicktime X walkthrough, and more pictures here and specific QT menu pictures here
 
That's good to know, I've wanted this feature.

Can you please elaborate?

What i mean is: While zoomed, the screen only moves when you move the cursor against the edge of your screen unlike Leopard 10.5 where it continuously moved regardless of position (of course the cursor has to be moving).
 
What i mean is: While zoomed, the screen only moves when you move the cursor against the edge of your screen unlike Leopard 10.5 where it continuously moved regardless of position (of course the cursor has to be moving).
That is a settable option under Universal Access/Zoom. Apple apparently changed the default setting to "Only when the pointer reaches an edge", but the old setting "Continuously with pointer" is still there.
 
That is a settable option under Universal Access/Zoom. Apple apparently changed the default setting to "Only when the pointer reaches an edge", but the old setting "Continuously with pointer" is still there.

i see... i never knew that... i never really messed with the zooming options but i did use zoom since i am legally blind
 
I've got a mid-2007 iMac with a ATI HD2600 graphics card. Am I reading it correctly on the specs page for Snow Leopard that this system won't take advantage of OpenCL?
 
I've got a mid-2007 iMac with a ATI HD2600 graphics card. Am I reading it correctly on the specs page for Snow Leopard that this system won't take advantage of OpenCL?

Correct I have the same card as you on the 2.8GHz 24" iMac and it cant take advantage of OpenCL or the hardware acceleration that comes in QuickTime X
 
Application Compatability
Office 2004 - What happens to Office 2004 on Snow Leopard? Interesting thread by Jessica here:

Using both GPUs at the same time for the late 2009 MacBook Pros
Could you use both 9400 and 9600M GT simultaneously under Snow Leopard on Mid 2009 MacBook Pros?
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/582405/

Note the wording for the Late 2008 models:

Apple's Macbook Pro (Late 2008) does feature both the NVIDIA® GeForce®9400M motherboard GPU for everyday computing and the NVIDIA® GeForce® 9600M GT discrete GPU for high graphics performance. You can switch between the Geforce 9400M motherboard GPU (called energy saver mode) and the Geforce 9600M GT discrete GPU (called performance mode), but you cannot use both GPU's at once in this implementation.

Will this change? Will try and find a motherboard picture or two to compare.

Hybrid SLI for laptops by Nvidia allows on-the-fly switching between a motherboard GPU and a discrete GPU. It also allows for GeForce Boost mode and Hybrid Power mode:

  • HybridPower - NVIDIA Hybrid SLI-enabled GPU on a NVIDIA Hybrid SLI-enabled motherboard (mGPU) => use one GPU, and be able to change between the 2 GPUs
  • GeForce Boost - Use both GPUs together.

I'd imagine we should hear back form Nvidia about Mid 2009 compatability soon (they're asking for another 24 hours on confirming this).

QuickTime X screen recording
InkMaster has a demo up - thread here, 40MB mov file here

10.6 & Multitouch for older Macs
TUAW has the info here

Notebooks that support multi-touch gestures, either now or after Snow Leopard:

MacBook Air (all models)
Early 2008 MacBook Pro
Late 2008 17" MacBook Pro
Unibody MacBook (all models)
Unibody MacBook Pro (all models)

If you have a MacBook Pro manufactured before early 2008 or any plastic MacBook, then Snow Leopard or not, multi-touch isn't coming your way.
 
New OS and Older MBP

New to the Mac World. I am switching from a 14" Thinkpad T60 to a MacBook.

I ordered a refurb from Apple Friday night for what I feel is a great price of $1349.
15" MacBook Pro, 2.53GHz, 4GB Ram, 320GB HD, 512MB Discrete Video along with nVidia 9400 on-board.

My initial thoughts were to get the new 13" MacBook Pro with the entry level processor, 4GB, and a 500GB HD. Price was not dramatically different than this refurb.

I travel for work 2-3 times per month with my ThinkPad (approx same weight as the 15" MacBook, and thought that my next computer might be a bit smaller, and lighter. The price on the 15" MacBook Pro was very tempting.

I do not do games. Will do photos, music, and some video. Mostly office applications and occasional Adobe CS3 stuff for page layouts.

QUESTION - Do you think that one machine would be better than the other going forward with Snow Leopard and subsequent Operating Systems? The notebook will not ship until Monday, but I wanted to lock the price.

Question - Do you expect that I will be able to put more RAM in this machine? Currently the published max is 4GB.



Comments?

Thanks,
 
New to the Mac World. I am switching from a 14" Thinkpad T60 to a MacBook.

I ordered a refurb from Apple Friday night for what I feel is a great price of $1349.
15" MacBook Pro, 2.53GHz, 4GB Ram, 320GB HD, 512MB Discrete Video along with nVidia 9400 on-board.

My initial thoughts were to get the new 13" MacBook Pro with the entry level processor, 4GB, and a 500GB HD. Price was not dramatically different than this refurb.

I travel for work 2-3 times per month with my ThinkPad (approx same weight as the 15" MacBook, and thought that my next computer might be a bit smaller, and lighter. The price on the 15" MacBook Pro was very tempting.

I do not do games. Will do photos, music, and some video. Mostly office applications and occasional Adobe CS3 stuff for page layouts.

QUESTION - Do you think that one machine would be better than the other going forward with Snow Leopard and subsequent Operating Systems? The notebook will not ship until Monday, but I wanted to lock the price.

Question - Do you expect that I will be able to put more RAM in this machine? Currently the published max is 4GB.

Comments?

Thanks,
In the grand scheme of things, no - I don't see any compelling reason to prefer one Mac over the other, out of the two you're considering - especially since both can take full advantage of Snow Leopard. As far as RAM goes, I wouldn't be surprised if an 8GB RAM upgrade eventually became possible for that Mac, but since there's only 2 slots, that's as high as you'll be able to go.
 
Hello there guys. I got my hands on 10A380 build of Snow Leopard and installed it on my MacBook, but I have a problem. When I try to create a wireless computer-to-computer network to share my ethernet connection with iPod touch, AirPort reports an error. Did anyone experience something similar?
 
The printer icon on the Dock now includes a little number badge denoting the queue. Also it automatically closes after printing (like it did for me on Tiger). That last thing is probably a fixed driver issue.
 
The printer icon on the Dock now includes a little number badge denoting the queue. Also it automatically closes after printing (like it did for me on Tiger). That last thing is probably a fixed driver issue.
That last thing is an option in the context menu of the printer's dock icon called "Auto Quit". It sounds like they changed the default setting.
 
Can someone check with the latest seed check this TechCrunch story out - Quicktime X has Flash (.flv) support? This blog post announced it afaik - So iPhone OS 4.0 could support flash video?

(I'd rather in a way the iPhone didn't play flash, and others got round to using H.264). 9to5mac reports:

Quicktime supported FLV movies up until 2007. After that, you needed Perian to play FLVs and SWFs in Quicktime. No longer. FLV support only means that Quicktime will play H.264 video in a .FLV wrapper, not that all of the complex Flash interactivity will be built in as well.
 
Can someone check with the latest seed check this TechCrunch story out - Quicktime X has Flash (.flv) support? This blog post announced it afaik - So iPhone OS 4.0 could support flash video?

YEP.... just used Quicktime X to play some .flv files!!!! AWESOME!!!

**** Correction**** It doesn't! It only works if you have Perian installed. :(
 
and if it costs 29 for leopard uses, do i have to take the box to the store or receipt as proof? if someone could clarify this for me, i'd be grateful.
That's what I was wondering myself, and I'm still not sure how it's going to be done.
If I get the $29 upgrade version of snow leopard will I be able to install it on a fresh blank drive
That's exactly what I want to do as well. I have two new Macs that I plan on completely wiping (securely with zeroes) before I install Snow Leopard on partitions of a fresh drive.
Great! So the answer is that I can wipe Leopard completely from my drive before installing Snow Leopard then.
Because the Install DVD will check your Hard Disk for 10.5 or 10.6, much like the 10.5 Drop-in DVD does.

If you have 10.5 installed, and you boot from the 10.6 DVD, it sees you're running 10.5 and gives you the normal options: Upgrade, Archive or Erase.
I'm confused now. You said to someone else that an upgrade version of Snow Leopard can be installed on a fresh drive, but now you say that Leopard must be on the hard drive first. That doesn't make sense because it can't be both. I'll try to make my question simple then so that someone may be able to help. I understand that nobody knows exactly how Apple is planning on doing this, but I plan on completely wiping Leopard from my Macs first.

Recently I bought a brand new 2.5 GHz MacBook Pro and a brand new 2.8 GHz iMac that were previous releases for a great price. I haven't had time yet to wipe the drive and partition them as I plan to do at some stage. Now that Apple has announced the release of Snow Leopard, it is my desire to wait until it is released to do it then.

I will be completely wiping Leopard from both Macs, and then I will be partitioning the hard drives of both Macs, and then I plan on installing Snow Leopard on one of the partitions of both Macs. The drives will be fresh and clean and Leopard will no longer be installed. Of course I would be able to do this in the past when Apple has released a new version of Mac OS X, but will I be able to do this with the upgrade DVD of Snow Leopard? Surely the Snow Leopard DVD is not a patch upgrade because the architecture of the operating system is so different.
 
That doesn't make sense because it can't be both.

yes it can :)

Obviously, no one knows how Apple will do it, but I think it'll be just like the drop-in DVDs.

You have 10.5, come September you buy 10.6 and boot off the DVD. Whilst booting, the 10.6 DVD checks your drive and sees you have 10.5 installed. If you want to Upgrade, select Upgrade. If you want a fresh install, select Erase.

I haven't booted from a Drop-in DVD in a while, but IIRC it won't let you do anything if you don't have the previous OS. If you want to partition your drives then you do so with DU after the OS check, then install the new OS.

Now, if you put a brand new drive in your Mac... who knows, maybe you'll have to install 10.5 first, maybe they be some "insert your 10.5 disc" message.

The Dev seed only has an upgrade option (it installs a fresh install if no previous OS) but that's probably because it's a beta.
 
yes it can :)
It still doesn't make sense to me. I plan on installing Snow Leopard after I have completely erased my hard drive. There will not be a copy of Leopard on the drive. Either I will be able to do this or I won't be able to do it.
Obviously, no one knows how Apple will do it, but I think it'll be just like the drop-in DVDs.
The drop-in DVD's actually updated the previous version of Mac OS X, but in this case, Snow Leopard is downsizing, so that doesn't make sense either.
You have 10.5, come September you buy 10.6 and boot off the DVD. Whilst booting, the 10.6 DVD checks your drive and sees you have 10.5 installed.
But I will be completely erasing and overwriting my drives first. Leopard will no longer be on my drive when I enter the Snow Leopard DVD. In fact there will be nothing on my drive except for the zeros that are written over the data. It will be an empty hard drive. I will then be partitioning my drive. One partition will be for Snow Leopard after it is released, and the other partition will not have an operating system installed.
If you want to Upgrade, select Upgrade. If you want a fresh install, select Erase.
Well I won't be upgrading because I will be wiping Leopard from my drive before I install Snow Leopard. At least that is what I hope to be able to do. I will be very disappointed if I can't.
Now, if you put a brand new drive in your Mac... who knows, maybe you'll have to install 10.5 first, maybe they be some "insert your 10.5 disc" message.
It won't be a brand new hard drive, but the same as a brand new hard drive because I hope to be able to completely erase both hard drives myself, and then install Snow Leopard on an empty hard drive. I certainly hope that there will be an "insert your 10.5 disc" message to simply confirm Leopard ownership.
The Dev seed only has an upgrade option (it installs a fresh install if no previous OS) but that's probably because it's a beta.
Well nothing seems clear and I still don't know, but I assume that I will be able to fresh install Snow Leopard on an empty drive and that confirmation of Leopard ownership is required only. I certainly do not want to reinstall Leopard just to install Snow Leopard over the top, and I'm sure there are many that will want to install Snow Leopard the same way that I want to do it by completely erasing and overwriting and partitioning the hard drives myself first as I have been able to do with any of the previous versions of Mac OS.
 
From the apple website http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/
They provide a link to online ordering , I ordered mine this morning. :)

Customers who purchase a qualifying new Mac computer or an Apple Certified Refurbished computer from the Apple Online Store on or after June 8, 2009 that does not include Mac OS X Snow Leopard can upgrade to Snow Leopard for US$9.95 plus tax. Remember your completed order form must be postmarked or faxed within 90 days of the date of your purchase of a qualifying computer (described in this offer) or by December 26, 2009, whichever is earlier.

If you purchased your computer directly from the Apple Online Store, follow one of these links to participate in the program. Subject to terms and conditions.

US Customers
Canadian Customers (English)
Canadian Customers (French)
Multiple Qualifying Computers on a Single Invoice

If you purchased multiple qualifying systems on a single invoice, you can either (1) purchase a Single-User Upgrade Kit for each qualifying product, at a cost of US$9.95*; or (2) purchase fewer Single-User Upgrade Kits and request the Right to Copy for the remaining qualifying products.
 
But I will be completely erasing and overwriting my drives first. Leopard will no longer be on my drive when I enter the Snow Leopard DVD.


Why? Just seems like you are making it difficult for yourself. Why not just leave 10.5 on the drive, boot from the 10.6 DVD and Erase with Disk Utility?
 
Why? Just seems like you are making it difficult for yourself. Why not just leave 10.5 on the drive, boot from the 10.6 DVD and Erase with Disk Utility?
I'm not convinced that your view is correct either, Sky Blue. In fact, I'll be doing the same thing KissStephanie is... namely, wiping the drive clean prior to installing. I'll repeat what I said in a different post: I see your logic, but it just doesn't seem plausible.
 
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