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Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - What, Where, When, Why & How much
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I highly doubt this is the case, though I suppose time will tell which view is correct.The $30 upgrade only works if you have leopard so no proof of purchase is required.
Front Page News, new seed 10A394.
This seed is downloadable via software update for the 10a380 build.
I think this update is a bit more snappier than 10a380. Just feel much more smooth and faster or I am experiencing placebo.
Expose has just been taken to a whole new level with Dock Expose. Minimize windows now show up as minor thumbnails on the bottom with a divider between the minimized windows and regular full windows. Feels much more productive. It is now much easier to minimize all windows just by doing Dock Expose and click hide.
No new QT icon in this seed which could mean that this 10a394 may not be the seed they used to demo at WWDC.
Overall, a very nice seed.
This seed is downloadable via software update for the 10a380 build.
I think this update is a bit more snappier than 10a380. Just feel much more smooth and faster or I am experiencing placebo.
Expose has just been taken to a whole new level with Dock Expose. Minimize windows now show up as minor thumbnails on the bottom with a divider between the minimized windows and regular full windows. Feels much more productive. It is now much easier to minimize all windows just by doing Dock Expose and click hide.
No new QT icon in this seed which could mean that this 10a394 may not be the seed they used to demo at WWDC.
Overall, a very nice seed.
Build 10A394 - distributed via Software Update with a description of containing fixes for stability, compatibility, and security. Might hold more than that...
Dock Exposé feature Previewed at WWDC at Apple's is now present and activates by clicking and holding on a running app's dock icon, which then shows only that app's windows in Exposé. Clicking on another running app's icon in dock switches to that app's Exposé windows.
Await to see what else has changed.
Dock Exposé feature Previewed at WWDC at Apple's is now present and activates by clicking and holding on a running app's dock icon, which then shows only that app's windows in Exposé. Clicking on another running app's icon in dock switches to that app's Exposé windows.
Await to see what else has changed.
Still no directory utility
They have moved the Directory Utility to the CoreServices directory.
It is now launched by opening System Prefs, Accounts, Login Options.
On the right you'll find "Network Account Server" to which you can "Join"
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BTW, the timing is PERFECT!!
LOL... I just got my Radeon HD 4870 with Apple 24" LED Display!!
Always nice to upgrade hardware and software at the same time
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Nice, thanks! I figured they'd moved it somewhere.
I don't think that I like the dock expose as it is implemented. When I click on an icon in the dock intending to move it to a different location in the dock, I have to be very fast to prevent expose kicking in. There needs to be a way to disable or change the timeout.
One other thing that I noticed was that there is now (finally) a "put display to sleep" option under "hot corners". I know the key combo is easy to do, but this is a nice option.
One other thing that I noticed was that there is now (finally) a "put display to sleep" option under "hot corners". I know the key combo is easy to do, but this is a nice option.
I think there'll be a time setting in the plist somewhere like the way we can change time setting for dragging applications to the other space.
Why do you think Apple has changed "Font smoothing styles" to only an on/off option, as opposed to the multiple choices available in Leopard 10.5?
The fonts looked terrible on the Mac I saw running with Snow Leopard.
Has not one of you noticed this rather huge change to the GIU?
Odd.
The fonts looked terrible on the Mac I saw running with Snow Leopard.
Has not one of you noticed this rather huge change to the GIU?
Odd.
Seems to me like added the same amount of features they removed. For everything I find that I like, I find something that I hate.
- When you have only 1 window open and you press expose, the window randomly moves. Pointless and annoying
- No way to NOT show minimized windows in Expose. I minimized them so I don't have to see them. Might be useful 1% of the time. But 99% of the time It's a waste of space.
- Expose Windows move so far apart which makes us have to move our mouse further. Doesn't seem like a problem, but I have a button on my mouse that activates Expose and when you use it 100s of times a day it matters.
- When someone clicks and hold on the Finder icon in the dock the windows disappear to no where. It's the expose background without Windows. Why?
- Quick Time X has barely any features now except trim. Take away 20 features add 1 = ??? I can't even put on Auto play.
Maybe they will fix somethings by the time SL releases but there's very little chance they will change Expose or allow us to use the old settings. And probably even less of a chance they will fix Quick Time 1. I mean 10.
- When you have only 1 window open and you press expose, the window randomly moves. Pointless and annoying
- No way to NOT show minimized windows in Expose. I minimized them so I don't have to see them. Might be useful 1% of the time. But 99% of the time It's a waste of space.
- Expose Windows move so far apart which makes us have to move our mouse further. Doesn't seem like a problem, but I have a button on my mouse that activates Expose and when you use it 100s of times a day it matters.
- When someone clicks and hold on the Finder icon in the dock the windows disappear to no where. It's the expose background without Windows. Why?
- Quick Time X has barely any features now except trim. Take away 20 features add 1 = ??? I can't even put on Auto play.
Maybe they will fix somethings by the time SL releases but there's very little chance they will change Expose or allow us to use the old settings. And probably even less of a chance they will fix Quick Time 1. I mean 10.
First seed with dock expose, they probably will get a lot of feedback from the developers about those valid issues you bought up, give them another month or so. Hopefully the next seed should fix up most of them.
I don't think they added a lot of intelligence to the Dock Expose yet. I agree with you, what's the point of Dock Expose for the Finder when there's no window open? It should come up as a menu instead or something else.
There should be more options for more customizations in the System Pref's Expose pane.
I think Apple will add a preference pane for QT but I don't think they are done developing it yet. The first sign is that it doesn't come with the new icon.
Anyone else experiencing that the new exposé is a bit sluggish? Really hope it is just a bug and not my Radeon 2600 HD that is to weak.
Quick Question about Snow Leopard
Hello Mac Fans! I'm a relatively new mac user (recently converted from PC to mac) and I had a quick question about snow leopard.
In the most recent Keynote, when snow leopard was being explained to the audience, the man mentioned that snow leopard will be better able to use RAM. He mentioned that the current leopard operating system maxes out at 4 GB RAM capacity...but that snow leopard will be able to use up to 8! My question, then, is this: I have an original unibody Macbook Pro with 4 GB RAM (that was the max at the time I bought it). Since snow leopard can use 8 GB RAM but my laptop can't add any additional RAM, would it be useless for me to upgrade to snow leopard? Should I just stick with regular Leopard? I was really looking forward to Snow Leopard, but if my lap top can't even utilize all of the performance enhancements that Snow Leopard offers because of my current hardware limitations, then I should probably just stick with what I have.
Can anyone educate me a little bit here about whether I should upgrade to S.L. and also explain why/how it would/would not be beneficial for me.
Thanks ahead of time for any input!
Hello Mac Fans! I'm a relatively new mac user (recently converted from PC to mac) and I had a quick question about snow leopard.
In the most recent Keynote, when snow leopard was being explained to the audience, the man mentioned that snow leopard will be better able to use RAM. He mentioned that the current leopard operating system maxes out at 4 GB RAM capacity...but that snow leopard will be able to use up to 8! My question, then, is this: I have an original unibody Macbook Pro with 4 GB RAM (that was the max at the time I bought it). Since snow leopard can use 8 GB RAM but my laptop can't add any additional RAM, would it be useless for me to upgrade to snow leopard? Should I just stick with regular Leopard? I was really looking forward to Snow Leopard, but if my lap top can't even utilize all of the performance enhancements that Snow Leopard offers because of my current hardware limitations, then I should probably just stick with what I have.
Can anyone educate me a little bit here about whether I should upgrade to S.L. and also explain why/how it would/would not be beneficial for me.
Thanks ahead of time for any input!
Umm, Leopard supports 8GB just fine (32bit with PAE which allows it to use more than 4GB), it is not the OS limitation but the hardware itself.
SL on a 64bit machine will be able to use up to 16 exabytes of RAM, that's 17.2 BILLION GBs.
The keynote was talking about the difference between 32bit and 64bit in general, not the actual limitation of the hardware.
As for SL, the larger RAM limit is not it's main purpose. SL has a lot of new technologies in it that would benefit anybody using it. Two of the biggest benefits are GCD/OpenCL. It allows the ability for the developers to use multi-cores much more efficent and as well as using the graphic card in your laptop to offload work from your CPU which makes the system even more powerful and more responsive.
You should read this link for more information.
Either that page is wrong or the page I read a while ago is wrong. I heard it at 16 TB.
Thanks for the response. I'll check out that link in a second.
The phrasing of my post wasn't correct because I don't know a whole lot about computers or macs, but I guess what my question boils down to is...even if I have an original unibody macbook pro (late 2008--bought it in november 2008), will I still be able to reap the full benefits of SL or will there be some things that I just won't be able to benefit from due to hardware limitations (only 2 RAM slots I think).
I guess another question would be, if RAM capacity improves, would I be able to upgrade RAM in that way despite only 2 slots in my laptop for RAM?
Thanks again for any responses
I read the link to the apple site about SL's new processing capabilities. What I came away with was:
1) Current macbook pros can only run 32 bit applications because the laptop can only carry 4 GB of RAM.
2) With SL, 64 bit applications can be run which accesses more RAM.
So does this mean that old unibody macbook pros cannot run 64 bit applications at this time because of their 4 GB RAM limit? Also, since I don't know the intricacies of what 64 bit applications actually are, what would the consequences be of not being able to run them?
No. It doesn't matter... even if your Mac is limited to 2GB of RAM, but has a 64-bit CPU, it can run 64-bit applications.
1) No, they can carry more - at least 6GB, some 8GB. Look in the MBP forums here to find out more about that.
2) No, they can and do run 64bit apps. Any Mac with an Intel Core 2 Duo can and does
Any examples? As far as I can tell everything in SL is fully supported on any unibody MBP.