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Mac OS X 10.6 to Drop PowerPC Support?
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yes, I think he may be
There are always going to be people on both sides of the fence, there really isn't a reason to argue over the issues, just respect their opinions and views.
p.s. Leopard is going to kickass on my new MacBookPro ( Come January, or hopefully October
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What people forget if 
decides to terminate PPC support with 10.6 or later and have an x86 only OS it would not only be a hugh negative for pro-users, however also business who have invested in PPC due to lack of support of pro applications and in-house applications that run on the PPC.
Another problem is that when Apple only made the PPC version of OS X open to the public and an x86 version in secret, it was securing its future on any consumer computing architecture. Having support for only x86 would certainly be cheaper, however it is also a strategy of cornering oneself with no alternatives. I believe PPC and x86 will live on, however it all depends on what will release and sell to the public.
Apple only chose x86 for mobility/power consumption ratio, if for any reason the x86 hits a wall as did the PPC, would be left with no alternatives. Having support PPC and x86 is planning for the worst case scenario.
decides to terminate PPC support with 10.6 or later and have an x86 only OS it would not only be a hugh negative for pro-users, however also business who have invested in PPC due to lack of support of pro applications and in-house applications that run on the PPC.Another problem is that when Apple only made the PPC version of OS X open to the public and an x86 version in secret, it was securing its future on any consumer computing architecture. Having support for only x86 would certainly be cheaper, however it is also a strategy of cornering oneself with no alternatives. I believe PPC and x86 will live on, however it all depends on what
will release and sell to the public.Apple only chose x86 for mobility/power consumption ratio, if for any reason the x86 hits a wall as did the PPC,
would be left with no alternatives. Having support PPC and x86 is planning for the worst case scenario.You're going beyond merely not remembering correctly into the realm of just making stuff up.
Anyway, dropping G4 support but keeping G5 support would make no sense at all. Dropping G3 is about certain hardware features. There's not enough difference between G4/G5 to warrant making any distinctions as far as OS X development goes.
That's not going to happen, because OS X also has to run on iPods and iPhones, which do not use x86.
--Eric
You're going beyond merely not remembering correctly into the realm of just making stuff up.
Anyway, dropping G4 support but keeping G5 support would make no sense at all. Dropping G3 is about certain hardware features. There's not enough difference between G4/G5 to warrant making any distinctions as far as OS X development goes.
--Eric
In general, yes. But there is the question of 64-bit support but that would also mean dropping support for the Core Solo and Core Duo.
I just noticed your signature
Jeeezus you have alot of new Apple crap! You own their entire "premium" product line. But why do you have both an iPhone *AND* and Touch ?
To everyone else in the forum: Do other people own both?
Jeeezus you have alot of new Apple crap! You own their entire "premium" product line. But why do you have both an iPhone *AND* and Touch ?
To everyone else in the forum: Do other people own both?
Let's put this into perspective. Here is the spec for a current Mac Pro I'm considering.
2 x 3.0 GHz QuadXeon
8 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 512MB
2x750 GB 7200 rpm Hard Drives
Bluetooth + Airport Extreme
Mac Pro RAID card
This comes at the bargain basement price of just £6014.99
Now come 2011, I should, as far as I'm concerned, be able to upgrade my damn OS. And if anyone suggests that in four years time the spec on this machine wouldn't be capable of handling a 'modern' OS is talking out of their a***.
Now let's go back to 2005 and price up a G5 for a similar amount of money. Yes, it would be more than capable of running a 2009 OS. And Apple, having taken that cash, should provide one.
We all have to live with the fact that technology dates faster than we'd like. Let's not rush the aging process any faster than needs be, eh.
2 x 3.0 GHz QuadXeon
8 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 512MB
2x750 GB 7200 rpm Hard Drives
Bluetooth + Airport Extreme
Mac Pro RAID card
This comes at the bargain basement price of just £6014.99
Now come 2011, I should, as far as I'm concerned, be able to upgrade my damn OS. And if anyone suggests that in four years time the spec on this machine wouldn't be capable of handling a 'modern' OS is talking out of their a***.
Now let's go back to 2005 and price up a G5 for a similar amount of money. Yes, it would be more than capable of running a 2009 OS. And Apple, having taken that cash, should provide one.
We all have to live with the fact that technology dates faster than we'd like. Let's not rush the aging process any faster than needs be, eh.
So true.
Mac OS 10.6 shouldn't have to have PPC support... By 2 years from now, everyone on a Mac should be able to switch to Intel, unless they're really short on $$ (learn to love Leopard!!) or just really nostalgic (everyone loves a G4!).
Now lets go back to 2005 when Apple announced they were transitioning to a different CPU and architecture.Intel.
This is the difference.Apple doesn't use the PPC platform anymore.Everybody knows it.Apple is using it.Developers are using it.WHY support an older platform when there's a new one?
Besides the PPC platform couldn't be used on any Intel-based OS 10.* that comes out in 2009
Because you have a responsibility to your customers. And your last line makes no sense. A universal OS WOULD run on a PPC machine. THAT is the whole point of this thread; whether or nor 10.6 will be universal.
As we approach the release of Apple's Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard), Appleinsider suggests that this may be the last major Mac OS revision that supports the PowerPC architecture.
Cited as speculation, Apple may not yet have made a decision on this matter. Apple has made no announcements about Mac OS X 10.6. Based on the most recent Mac OS development cycles, Mac OS X 10.6 would not likely ship until 2009.
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Considering that in 2009, a quad core G5 will still beat some brand new Macs, I think this is very likely to be a completely unfounded speculation and pure nonsense. Especially since OS X runs on x86, PowerPC and ARM processors already.
Hurray For Bloated Software
I miss the good old days when apple was a good computer company(ohh say 2004). Now they are mass producing crapy electronics instead of making soild well build computers/computer software. I am going to miss you APPL. I guess this was expected when Apple Computers Inc. became Apple(I stick iPhone up my but for a living) Inc. GoodBye Apple and your crappy products.
I miss the good old days when apple was a good computer company(ohh say 2004). Now they are mass producing crapy electronics instead of making soild well build computers/computer software. I am going to miss you APPL. I guess this was expected when Apple Computers Inc. became Apple(I stick iPhone up my but for a living) Inc. GoodBye Apple and your crappy products.
A chorus of laughter explodes across the room. "Moof1904 is the greatest comedian of them all!" the crowd cries.
It's not about the OS, it's about the rumors...it's about the HUNT...
waste of resources
exactly.. its a HUGE waste of resources. I want the latest and greatest that Apple can bring out. I don't want them to get bogged down having to support 4-5 year old computers! UPGRADE PEOPLE!
Still, I don't see the reasoning behind people saying:
"Oh that sucks - my G5 will be obsolete!" I say NONSENSE. Just because you have to run 10.5 instead of 10.6 your high-powered Quad G5 system is now obsolete? WTF? Thats like saying Windows XP computers are obsolete vs the piece of *** Windows Vista.
You still will be able to run all your programs on 10.5. Maybe 1-2 years after the release of 10.6 certain program updates may only work on 10.6. BUT THAT WILL BE 6-7 YEARS AFTER YOU BOUGHT THE COMPUTER!
Thats an EPOCH in computer time!
exactly.. its a HUGE waste of resources. I want the latest and greatest that Apple can bring out. I don't want them to get bogged down having to support 4-5 year old computers! UPGRADE PEOPLE!
Still, I don't see the reasoning behind people saying:
"Oh that sucks - my G5 will be obsolete!" I say NONSENSE. Just because you have to run 10.5 instead of 10.6 your high-powered Quad G5 system is now obsolete? WTF? Thats like saying Windows XP computers are obsolete vs the piece of *** Windows Vista.
You still will be able to run all your programs on 10.5. Maybe 1-2 years after the release of 10.6 certain program updates may only work on 10.6. BUT THAT WILL BE 6-7 YEARS AFTER YOU BOUGHT THE COMPUTER!
Thats an EPOCH in computer time!
I miss the good old days when apple was a good computer company(ohh say 2004). Now they are mass producing crapy electronics instead of making soild well build computers/computer software. I am going to miss you APPL. I guess this was expected when Apple Computers Inc. became Apple(I stick iPhone up my but for a living) Inc. GoodBye Apple and your crappy products.
Well, we had the delay of Leopard due to resource being taken off that project to get the OSX based iPhone out to market. You could conclude that it is a drain from that occurrence.
Testing, in any development shop that I've been in, takes a good amount of time in that an area flagged to be bug fixed needs to be regression tested to death. PPC, Intel, and ARM all have their code optimizations to that must be taken into consideration when testing.
It is just inevitable that PPC would go away and the cat after Leopard (Lion) would make the most sense. That being said, that is probably at least 2 years down the rode.