Mac OS X 10.7 Appearing in Web Logs, Dev Release at WWDC?

[cmaier]

Wait, you don't think its a lot?

As has been pointed out, it's a trivially small percentage of even last quarter's mac sales. It's an imperceptibly small percentage of the installed mac base. I don't sell mac software, but even compared to sales of some of my appstore apps that are of use only to lawyers with iphones (a rare breed), it's a pretty tiny number. Add the fact that many people download things and don't use them, and, yeah, I'd say it's not even close to a lot.

 

[MorphingDragon]

As has been pointed out, it's a trivially small percentage of even last quarter's mac sales. It's an imperceptibly small percentage of the installed mac base. I don't sell mac software, but even compared to sales of some of my appstore apps that are of use only to lawyers with iphones (a rare breed), it's a pretty tiny number. Add the fact that many people download things and don't use them, and, yeah, I'd say it's not even close to a lot.

Even among 1 mill 37k is tiny.

37k/1mil x 100 = 3.7%

Gentoo Linux is in higher demand.

 

[dimmer-fj]

Rest assured, the application I just got is now running in the background, and I can easily see it running at all times until apple fixes this BUG. I've already added it to my start up list, cuz you know, I dont have time for headaches as my computer is a workstation, not a toy...

Not to be insulting, but I really can't make out what the heck you are trying to say here.

 

[Maserati7200]

Great, 10.7. I love my Mac but I hate some of its basic UI stuff. Maybe Apple will finally allow us to...

- resize a window by dragging any of the edges
Yes, that is a great feature of Windows 7. It would be nice if Apple could implement that or even something better.
- maximize a window to the full screen (without 'helper apps')
I agree, I have a 13" screen and that would be useful. On a big desktop not so much. I'd say this should be in system preferences and you choose what you want.
- optionally close the app when you close its last window
why? that would be so cumbersome. If you accidentally close a window you have to relaunch an app? ew. I never liked that about windows.
- set a time frame and/or battery level for a laptop to switch from standby to hibernation, so I will not find my MBA with a battery as dead as a doornail the next morning - and console commands don't count, I want a UI
Yes, that would be very useful for me. Also, if you have above 5% battery, you can't get your computer to go into hibernation mode. I wish you could get it to hibernate instantly, without a schedule or low battery.
- have more useful right-click options on files and folders
What is missing there now that you would like?

Wait, you don't think its a lot?

Numbers are just numbers. The significance of them lies within context. And in this context, 27,000 is highly insignificant.

 

[lPHONE]

10.7

What do we currently know about 10.7?

 

[flopticalcube]

Nothing.

 

[miles01110]

It'll probably come before 10.8.

 

[sammich]

We don't even know if it's going to be called 10.7.

Could be like...11.0.

 

[celticpride678]

Absolutely nothing.

 

[MikhailT]

What do we currently know about 10.7?

Absolutely nothing. We might hear a line or two from Jobs about 10.7 at WWDC, but other than that we shouldn't hear anything about it for the rest of the year.

We should be seeing a massive feature pack update in 10.7, similar to the Leopard's "300+ new feature" update kind. Apple got a solid foundations in 10.6 all ready and stable for an overhaul on the interface along with all the system applications probably changed as well. Think Finder with tabs or side by side panel, not likely but something that can come up in 10.7. Remember Apple's goal for 10.6 was to get the foundations modernized for the next generation of OSX, they didn't plan to add features, they'll rewrite applications in cocoa and 64bit support but they'll reserve any code additions for 10.7 instead in order to market it.

We might see a new file system but that might not be ready for 10.7 (Apple started hiring more file systems engineer after they killed ZFS support), maybe reserved for OS XI. I am thinking Apple might be going for one of the open source linux file systems, like BTRFS, which can be a huge change which is why I think they'll hold it off for OSXI when the file system is much more mature. Now I don't mean that they'll release 10.8,.9,.10 first, they'll simply just rename it to OSXI to branch off with the new file system.

We should be seeing more integration with iPhoneOS and the next OS X in terms of GUI theme, animations, and the feel of it.

That's all I can think of my head right now. Steve did somewhat say that next year would return the focus to the Mac for Apple instead of the iPhone/iPad this year at the WWDC.

 

[Jason Beck]

Apple OSX 10.7 Codenamed: LohanX is the new operating system personally funded and sponsored by the Lohan family. Complete social networking integration right into the OS is evident. You can be on your Facebook or favorite profile in split milliseconds by right clicking and selecting your profile from the right click menu.

The mascot is a Chihuahua dog, and was also deemed to be called OSX Chihuahua. The mouse pointer has also been replaced by the Lois Voutton logo.

Ehm

HAHAH

 

[Horus]

Apple OSX 10.7 Codenamed: LohanX is the new operating system personally funded and sponsored by the Lohan family. Complete social networking integration right into the OS is evident. You can be on your Facebook or favorite profile in split milliseconds by right clicking and selecting your profile from the right click menu.

The mascot is a Chihuahua dog, and was also deemed to be called OSX Chihuahua. The mouse pointer has also been replaced by the Lois Voutton logo.

Ehm

HAHAH

What a bummer, I thought 10.7 was going to be called Perez Hilton.

 

[MikhailT]

What a bummer, I thought 10.7 was going to be called Perez Hilton.

Neither, it's Cyrus Miley now.

 

[appleguy123]

Neither, it's Cyrus Miley now.

They could market it well. Mac OS 10.7 "Can't be tamed" by viruses or spyware.

 

[Jason Beck]

Miley looks like she is doing a pretty good job of contracting viruses the way she's acting! LOL

 

[maflynn]

Its also highly unlikely that we'll hear anything at the iPhone developer conference on June 7th either.

 

[Jason Beck]

Honestly OSX 10.6 is fine right now for the long haul. It needs a few things like TRIM but that will all be done in service packs. It is 100% better since release. I'm enjoying it. I hear it is pretty nifty on the new iCore chips too. (I am running a 2ghz c2d ) and it runs fine on mine even. I think Apple can squeeze another 2 years out of Snow Leopard, at least.

 

[MikhailT]

Its also highly unlikely that we'll hear anything at the iPhone developer conference on June 7th either.

While the majority of the keynote will be focused on iPhone, it isn't the iPhone developer conference. WWDC includes everything from Apple, don't be surprised to hear about Safari 5 which Apple often announce a beta or release at WWDC. There might be some Mac updates like the Mac Pros and something else.

 

[MikhailT]

Honestly OSX 10.6 is fine right now for the long haul. It needs a few things like TRIM but that will all be done in service packs. It is 100% better since release. I'm enjoying it. I hear it is pretty nifty on the new iCore chips too. (I am running a 2ghz c2d ) and it runs fine on mine even. I think Apple can squeeze another 2 years out of Snow Leopard, at least.

They can but they won't unless they face some kind of setbacks. Remember in marketing term, SL is just a refined version of Leopard, which is partially true as in terms of front end and user features, it's not any different from Leopard, which mean for most people it's the same OSX front end since Oct 2007, not late August 2009.

I honestly think Apple split the massive OSX update into two parts, the SL release (10.6) and the upcoming huge user features pack release in order to meet their deadline of every 12-24 month OS update. For all the poking that Apple did at MS expense for the Vista's delays, they probably didn't want to face the same thing with delaying the 10.7 beyond 3-4 years. Remember that the features additions to the OS X is hard to do when the very foundations is being modernized, so they can't really have two teams working on the same OS (10.6/10.7) at same time in my opinion, so they had to split it into two OS releases.

Imagine what 10.7 would be like if they didn't, it'll probably be the fastest most impressive OS update Apple ever did at the expense of making the users wait 3-5 years for it.

 

[Jason Beck]

They can but they won't unless they face some kind of setbacks. Remember in marketing term, SL is just a refined version of Leopard, which is partially true as in terms of front end and user features, it's not any different from Leopard, which mean for most people it's the same OSX front end since Oct 2007, not late August 2009.

I honestly think Apple split the massive OSX update into two parts, the SL release (10.6) and the upcoming huge user features pack release in order to meet their deadline of every 12-24 month OS update. For all the poking that Apple did at MS expense for the Vista's delays, they probably didn't want to face the same thing with delaying the 10.7 beyond 3-4 years. Remember that the features additions to the OS X is hard to do when the very foundations is being modernized, so they can't really have two teams working on the same OS (10.6/10.7) at same time in my opinion, so they had to split it into two OS releases.

Imagine what 10.7 would be like if they didn't, it'll probably be the fastest most impressive OS update Apple ever did at the expense of making the users wait 3-5 years for it.

Good point.
I can't wait. : )

 

[J&JPolangin]

...yeah, but our luck it will drop support for intel c2d cpu's when it arrives

 

[MikhailT]

...yeah, but our luck it will drop support for intel c2d cpu's when it arrives

The only CPU it'll drop is the C2S, not C2D. It's the only non 64bit CPU in the Mac Intel lineup, so chances are, Apple should go for 64bit only OS in 10.7 and kill off C2S support.

Which is a good thing, not a bad thing well except for people who do have those Macs.

 

[flopticalcube]

The only CPU it'll drop is the C2S, not C2D. It's the only non 64bit CPU in the Mac Intel lineup, so chances are, Apple should go for 64bit only OS in 10.7 and kill off C2S support.

Which is a good thing, not a bad thing well except for people who do have those Macs.

I think you are thinking of the Core Duos and Core Solos. Apple never used a Core 2 Solo (C2S). These will probably not be supported in 10.7 but the C2Ds will.

 

[MikhailT]

I think you are thinking of the Core Duos and Core Solos. Apple never used a Core 2 Solo (C2S). These will probably not be supported in 10.7 but the C2Ds will.

Yes, my bad, thank you for correcting it. I meant the original Core series. It was a short lived series and not a lot of Macs with it, so it'll be trivial for Apple to kill it for 10.7.

 

[MacsRgr8]

Like "I am from Barcelona"... we know nothing...

However... couple of "educated" guesses:
- x64 only
- iPhone / iPad OS emulation
- USB 3 support
- FireWire 3200 support
- Lightpeak support
- OpenGL 3.x

..or is it more wishful thinking...