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Mac OS X 10.7 Appearing in Web Logs, Dev Release at WWDC?

Justinf79 said:
And what's suppose to be the code name for 10.7: Lion, Lynx, Bobcat, Ocelot?
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I see two possible names for 10.7 based on the feline taxonomy:
Jaguar (10.2), Panther (10.3), Tiger (10.4), Leopard (10.5) and Snow Leopard (10.6) were all animals belonging to the Pantherinae group.
In this group, there are only two names left: Lion and Clouded Leopard.
This would be good for 10.7 and 10.8 (what about Clouded Leopard and Cloud Computing ;))

Luc

PS1: Cheetah (10.0) and Puma (10.1) belong to another group, the Felinae
PS2: See the taxonomy of Felidae here: http://tolweb.org/Felidae/16006
 
swagi said:
a) The window management in OS X is way better than you think in case you are running a decent display. To put it the other way: What the heck do you need a 'Maximize to screen' button for on a 24" display or above. Therefore you only seem to be using a small screen. Trust me, the green button is very efficient on a large screen and helps avoid clutter.
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I would agree with this, but tell that to my 1280x800 Macbook. What's more, I find Full Screen to be preferable even when running at 1920x1080. For internet browsing, it allows me to see the maximum amount of content, and when doing work, it prevents me from getting distracted by other things on the computer. Not to mention the Zoom button seems to have a mind of its own at certain times, with the lack of consistency certainly not helping. What I would personally like to see is some sort of Apple-integrated multi-window management system, like what is included in the latest ATi drivers (where you can split your screen(s) into sectors for viewing multiple windows at once or assign programs to a certain space, though the interface is a little messy right now) or even like the side-by-side view of Windows 7.
 
Frazzle said:
Does it? The OS X UI requires me to first drag the window to some other place, then move to the lower right corner of the window and resize it. Several mouse movements, several clicks. In Windows: one click, one move. The benefits are in the eye of the beholder.

So? Does that make it "bad" somehow? You're actually willing to defend the OS X 'zoom' button that basically changes behavior with every app?

This: close lid, system enters sleep. After configurable time period in sleep, system enters deep sleep. Result: system wakes up next morning with a battery that's still good to go. My MBA loses enough juice on sleep in one night to require charging the next morning. Nice if you're on the move and forgot to plug it in overnight. It only takes one extra slider in the power options.

Nice attitude. I'd say the two UI's are different - not good or bad. And yes, the Windows UI feels more at home to me and allows me to be more productive when it comes to handling files. As a user, I don't care whether something's a hold over from some past idea. If it works, it works. And I would love to have more preference settings to tailor OS X to my needs.

A solid UI that works is nice. A solid UI that works for me is better.

Comparable example: If you're from the US, you're probably used to driving an automatic. This is kinda how you've been taught things work, bad as those lessons may be. Now if you're stuck in some European stickshift rental car and can barely make it move, would it help if I told you that a stickshift is the more effective, elegant and 'better' solution? The best solution is the one that can cater to both preferences. (In my Audi, that's called a 'tiptronic'.)
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Ha, I'm from the UK, drove stick for 20 years, moved to the US, got a nice automatic VW, followed by an even nicer Volvo with the automatic/manual control deal -- never used the manual option, as it offered no benefit, especially in the Bay Area which runs from flat to huge hills in a moment. More user control does not equate to better control.

As far as your other points go, I'm sorry that you'd prefer everyone to use the interface you like, rather than one that actually works for everyone. Be seeing you.
 
dimmer-fj said:
Ha, I'm from the UK, drove stick for 20 years, moved to the US, got a nice automatic VW, followed by an even nicer Volvo with the automatic/manual control deal -- never used the manual option, as it offered no benefit, especially in the Bay Area which runs from flat to huge hills in a moment. More user control does not equate to better control.

As far as your other points go, I'm sorry that you'd prefer everyone to use the interface you like, rather than one that actually works for everyone. Be seeing you.
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Dude, just don't go to car analogies. They never work.
 
dimmer-fj said:
never used the manual option, as it offered no benefit, especially in the Bay Area which runs from flat to huge hills in a moment. More user control does not equate to better control.
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You are so wrong. I've only driven sticks since I moved to the bay area. Having to shift constantly is the only thing that keeps me entertained in traffic.
 
Forget Marble, bring back Platinum

I would very much like for Apple to give us the "Classic" Mac OS interface, or at least let us skin the UI to look like it.
 
Povilas said:
Different approach that's all it is. The reason I like Mac OS X is because it has very simple and light UI and still I can do some pretty cool stuff with it. Tree view is useles for me and column view is far better in my opinion. Right click options can be added using Automator services ;) Sorting of files and folders differs from person to person, so there is no right way ;)
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You said it right: it's all personal. That's all I'm asking for, some more customizability without breaking stuff that other people might like. An extra sorting option doesn't hurt anyone. Configurable behavior for the 'zoom' button wouldn't hurt either. If it would make Windows users feel more at home, why not? I have 6 machines here, 3 Apples and 3 PCs. I'd just like to make switching between them a little easier. Just look at the number of people that download RightZoom to fix the zoom button.

And Apple sometimes does copy stuff: in Snow Leopard you can select an international keyboard that works just like the PC version - typing quotation marks and then 'e' gives you 'ë' in that case. I really appreciate that, I could never remember the Mac way of typing accented characters.

I'm just so tired of this 'my OS is superior in every way' crap. Every OS has weird stuff from the past, every OS has things to like and dislike. I like Macs, I like PCs. They're just tools. Let's make the tools fit our hands and not vice versa. More preference panes!
 
cmaier said:
What's the number?
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Actual number of downloads as of January 26th, 2010 is 26,617.

Yeah, i think its fair to say apple missed the mark on properly expanding a window (such a simple process and yet its so badly executed). They also missed the mark on adapting proper SSD support even when they sell a laptop with an SSD. Then theres also the debacle of cut/copy/paste and merge files/folders without overwriting existing files. The list goes on.
 
ungraphic said:
Actual number of downloads as of January 26th, 2010 is 26,617.

Yeah, i think its fair to say apple missed the mark on properly expanding a window (such a simple process and yet its so badly executed). They also missed the mark on adapting proper SSD support even when they sell a laptop with an SSD. Then theres also the debacle of cut/copy/paste and merge files/folders without overwriting existing files. The list goes on.
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Wait - so you think 26K downloads is a lot?
 
ungraphic said:
Actual number of downloads as of January 26th, 2010 is 26,617.

Yeah, i think its fair to say apple missed the mark on properly expanding a window (such a simple process and yet its so badly executed). They also missed the mark on adapting proper SSD support even when they sell a laptop with an SSD. Then theres also the debacle of cut/copy/paste and merge files/folders without overwriting existing files. The list goes on.
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You have to be careful using cut n paste in Unix type file systems.

Files aren't as easily recoverable if something goes wrong.
 
KnightWRX said:
How many Macs did Apple sell just last quarter ? How many of those downloads are unique ?

Yeah... less than 1% of the Mac using population sure is a lot. :rolleyes: The button is fine as is.
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26K is just downloads - not even users. I download lots of stuff I don't use for long. Particular a couple of years ago, when got my first (non-secret-prototype) Mac, I downloaded all sorts of things I thought I'd need, then ended up never using them again.

Of course, there may be billions of potential purchasers of Macs who refuse to purchase them because of the maximize behavior. So, too, the flying spaghetti monster may be using his noodly appendages to massage the download numbers to trick us. I have an open mind.
 
KnightWRX said:
How many Macs did Apple sell just last quarter ? How many of those downloads are unique ?

Yeah... less than 1% of the Mac using population sure is a lot. :rolleyes: The button is fine as is.
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The button is clearly NOT fine as is. Click on it almost always results in irregular and unwanted sizes. Most of the time I spend with windows is adjusting them so that they fit to the maximum screen area. Doesn't take long but when you use a computer for more than just sending pictures to grandma and grandpa, yeah this becomes tedious and highly annoying (is it fair to assume all you use on the mac is firefox and iphoto?).

Rest assured, the application I just got is now running in the background, and I can easily see it running at all times until apple fixes this BUG. I've already added it to my start up list, cuz you know, I dont have time for headaches as my computer is a workstation, not a toy that i simply agree with all its functions because a big brother figure at a keynote told me his way is the only way.
 
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