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Could be possible an apple event about Leopard near Vista's release (January 30)?

Why don't show the "big surprises" now?

Because that looks like "Hey! Look @ me too!" Showing them a few weeks later makes people say "Now why did I spend $$$ on Vista & putting my PC under the knife???"
 
Because that looks like "Hey! Look @ me too!" Showing them a few weeks later makes people say "Now why did I spend $$$ on Vista & putting my PC under the knife???"

That doesn't make sense. You are saying that Apple's plan is to wait until users have invested money in Vista, and possibly new PC hardware, before trying to entice them with Leopard's features.
 
I have 8 terminal windows open at a time on a daily basis, tabbed terminal windows would be very handy. I would also like to store connection commands to remote servers as it becomes a pain typing 8 different passwords for each server. I would like a 1 password security feature tho to unlock stored passwords for root connections. Just me thinking tho :)


Is it just me, or do these pointed out features, seem to be drawing our attention from something big? Either that or there are going to be a lot of dissappointed people when 10.5 is revealed. What average person wants tabbed terminal windows when the terminal is hardly used in the first place?

P-Worm
 
For instance, if Apple were to completely revamp the UI like many are expecting, wouldn't Apple have to seed out the development package for it? So i don't see a radically new UI in the works for that reason.
For what? If an app uses a custom UI already, it wouldn't be affected by system changes. If it used default Interface Builder and system UI components, then it would automatically update when those resources were replaced. It's likely that there would be a few odd glitches in some of the smaller shareware apps--but that'll be the case regardless, because those smaller developers don't pay to have preview releases of software in the first place. Releasing a new UI is one of the easiest major changes you can make.

Does anyone think that apple is hiding the new UI and keeping it out of the developer builds?
If it exists at all, that's exactly what they're doing. Apple's pretty good about maximizing their 'wow' factor--and that means not letting things trickle out anticlimactically. They drop a few hints and cause a stir, crazy Macheads fly off the reservation with speculation, and then the final product appears with a bang. Within hours, the excitement high will wear off and it'll be attacked and derided for a while before the pendulum settles back to normal.
How will developers integrate their apps into the new UI? Or will it simply be a case of the default colours of windows/scroll bars etc simply changing when the program is loaded under Leopard (if it has a new-look UI) ?
Developers won't have to do anything unless they use a custom UI, in which case they'll have to decide whether or not to Leopard-ize their products.

One easy option would be to include a toggle setting for each app. If it doesn't display properly in the new UI, users could change it to display with Aqua widgets instead. All they have to do is keep the old bitmaps around.
 
I hardly think they'd unveil all the goodies before it's released. Apple is making such a stink about Leopard, I don't see a reason for them NOT to keep it under wraps as much as possible.

I like surprises and hope this release will contain many. :)
 
we're gettin closer and closer to the release but I was at the :apple: store the other day and all they can say is spring so i guess we gotta just sit tight and wait....besides don't you think it'll be worth it?
 
Hope they show us the new features soon.

jon
These secret features everyone is expecting may not amount to much in the end. I can't imagine a major OS feature being introduced without a preview to the developpers. I think we pretty much know the full Leopard feature set,

Spaces
Time Machine
Resolution independant UI
A few new frameworks
Objective C 3.0
Updated developpers tools
Perhaps an updated finder

I think the current OS usability is near optimum, I don't see a great need for major additions.
 
These secret features everyone is expecting may not amount to much in the end. I can't imagine a major OS feature being introduced without a preview to the developpers. I think we pretty much know the full Leopard feature set,

Spaces
Time Machine
Resolution independant UI
A few new frameworks
Objective C 3.0
Updated developpers tools
Perhaps an updated finder

I think the current OS usability is near optimum, I don't see a great need for major additions.


And I also thought that a Phone always needed a keyboard :D
Apple is going to make the best OSX release so far, I for one believe in a more refined GUI and user experience, especially through core animation, like fliping the windows backwards (like we do to configure widgets), for all I care Apple is very good at keeping secrets, just like many of you thought that the iPhone wasn't going to make an appearance at MWSF and it did. Leopard has top secret features, and it's worthless to think about what these features are because if you can imagine them then Apple's designers and engineers have got to be at least 5 years ahead, and usually are. Don't think about it, just wait, it's a great year for being a Mac user. My 2 cents :)
 
I think the current OS usability is near optimum, I don't see a great need for major additions.

Sure, that's what I thought back I don't know how long ago when I was using WMI on my Linux box. The thing is that after a while one of three things happens:

1. Your demands change, and you end up seeing just how bad the situation actually is.
2. You overcome the shock and end up seeing how bad it actually is.
3. You use someone else's <whatever> and end up seeing that it's by far superior.

So no, it's not done at all.

I think they still need to add a way to drag windows from all sides, possibly old-school modifier style (hold down a modifier and drag the window to resize). A proper option cut in finder would be great, etc.
 
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