I'll just say it now so you won't be let down later. 10.5 won't include anything more than what's already been around the rumor mill.
And all signs point to WWDC.
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I'll just say it now so you won't be let down later. 10.5 won't include anything more than what's already been around the rumor mill.
And all signs point to WWDC.
Tabbed terminals are great for sysadmins
One of my favorite features of iTerm, is the ability to drag off a tab and it be comes a new iTerm window. Plus you can take a standalone iTerm window and merge it with another creating a tab. I hope that Apple borrows this...
One of my favorite features of iTerm, is the ability to drag off a tab and it be comes a new iTerm window. Plus you can take a standalone iTerm window and merge it with another creating a tab. I hope that Apple borrows this...
So WWDC is in spring this year then?
I'd expect the Top Secret stuff to be revealed mid March, and the release date annouced at that point to, which will proably be mid April. This would give developers time to change things, should this be required. I doubt anything major "under the hood" wise is changing from now until release as it would seriously impact developers making products compatible with Leopard.
I'd expect the Top Secret stuff to be revealed mid March, and the release date annouced at that point to, which will proably be mid April. This would give developers time to change things, should this be required. I doubt anything major "under the hood" wise is changing from now until release as it would seriously impact developers making products compatible with Leopard.
June...
Actually the date of WWDC 2007 has not yet been announced by Apple.
WWDC 2006 took place the second week of August 2006 and was officially announced March 7th 2006, five months before the event. WWDC 2005 took place the second week June 2005 and was announced on February 15th 2005, a little under 4 months before the event.
It has been rumored that WWDC 2007 will be the second week of June 2007 which is a little less then 5 months away now... we shall see.
June has been the more common time for WWDC over the las few years.
A lot of people use the terminal extensively. A rather substantial chunk of Mac marketshare growth is people who use OSX as a Unix front-end. The *majority* of people I know who use OSX come from the Linux/Unix world and will make good use of this feature. Much like virtual desktops, which are also insanely useful and common on Unix. So maybe you don't have a use for it, but I don't complain when they add useless point-n-clicky doodads that serve no constructive purpose for me either. Obviously you are neither the only market nor target market for this feature.
On any given day, I usually have as many terminals open as GUI apps, not because I love shells but because I need them as a practical matter. Having a better terminal application would be much appreciated.
You probably realised now that many people do care.
If it's something that you don't use, it doesn't mean others aren't using it.
I use it to access Linux machines (iTerm too).
I bet all the developers are happy.
Your answer is right there! Average person! Like you (maybe).
That's what I like about OS X. There is stuff for the average joe, and beneath it all there is stuff for more advanced users. I don't want OS X to be dumbed down.
It's funny you should say that. My dog once ate an entire box of crayons (64 colours!) and he actually did crap rainbows. (not joking)
Now that I think of it, that horrible mixture of bright colours in the giant pile of crap somehow reminds me of the horrible mixture of bright colours in the giant pile of crap that is Windows XP.
I'm picturing the windows login screen with a photo of the "rainbow" above the loading bar. Ever seen vista? The Desktop Backgrounds are nice, but everything else is kinda overdone. Where XP was childish, Vista is... too glassy. Luckily, you can make it looks like old school win95.
Better question: What is the last?
OK yes Apple secrecy can be a bit sickening. I think so many years of getting burned has turned stevo paranoid.
Even so, one has to wonder why apple is so fanatical about 10.5 secrecy given that they must have known the features could not make it into vista. I think most of it was more of a publicity thing - ie see how much vista looks/acts like os x, that is because we are the innovators.
In the end, perhaps a policy of withholding features as long as possible make sense - since there is always microsloths next OS which could incorporate 10.5 features - albiet 10 years from now.
Simple: announcing selling features after Vista is released and hype has died down a bit puts OS X as "newer" in the minds of the people. Let MS rant about how cool their OS is and then be blown down by the few wildcards Apple still has its sleeve. After the iPhone, i'm fully expecting a new UI to pop it's head into Leopard.
Does MS really need to have counter-strategies? Or any marketing strategy at all?
There seems to be a lot of talk about this resolution independent UI. I can just see Steve showing it off. He drags the corner of the window and rather than the customary stretching, we get some weird form of stretching and scaling that has us scratching our heads and saying "why didn't I think of that?"
I don't think this will be a new UI so much in terms of appearance as functionality. Support for vector-based UI's rather than bitmap-based. There are a lot of cool little things you could do with that. Especially when mixed with core animation, I think this release of Leopard will make Vista look dated.
I expect they ( MS ) look with interesting at OSX, the same Apple do with new releases of Windows.
But when you have a strangle hold and no ( effective ) competition - microsoft aren't going to be too concerned with OSX 10.5.
Microsoft know damned well that Apple aren't going to take significant market share away from windows.
MS would be probably more concerned with Firefox v IE than they are with Apple.
Tabbed Terminal? Yawn.
For all the unix heads excited about tabbed Terminal, I've been using something much better every day for about 14 years. It's a little program called screen, and it comes preinstalled on OS X. Type man screen to get started.
With screen, I get all the benefits of tabs, plus:
I've honestly never understood all the hype around tabbed terminal programs the last several years. Doesn't oanybody know about screen? It's so much more flexible in my opinion. I couldn't live without it.
For all the unix heads excited about tabbed Terminal, I've been using something much better every day for about 14 years. It's a little program called screen, and it comes preinstalled on OS X. Type man screen to get started.
With screen, I get all the benefits of tabs, plus:
- Easy keyboard shortcuts to switch to different screens. No moving your hand to that pesky mouse way over there. Huge time saver.
- Detach from a running session and reattach to it later. Unless Apple was really forward-thinking in their implementation of Terminal tabs, I'll bet it doesn't do this.
- Reattach to the same session from a different place. Say you start a session on your machine at home, then go to a friend's house. If you're a real unix geek, you allow ssh access, so you ssh in from your friend's. From there, you reattach to your existing screen session and continue right where you left off, as if you were still sitting at home.
- Attach to the same session from multiple places simultaneously. This is useful not only for remote attaching, but also when you're sitting at the machine. Say you have two "windows" in your session and you really need to see them both at the same time. Depending on how the tabs are implemented, a tabbed terminal program may not allow this. No problem for screen. Just open a second Terminal window, attach to your screen session, and navigate to the other screen "window". Easy.
I've honestly never understood all the hype around tabbed terminal programs the last several years. Doesn't oanybody know about screen? It's so much more flexible in my opinion. I couldn't live without it.
I said it once before somewhere, but I will say it again. I am sure iLife and iWork 07 will have a companion on the iphone. We have not seen the powers of the iPhone yet. What we saw is only the beginning, especially if you look at the interface, those widgets are really programs, almost a desktop, I am sure the iWork's interface will be like the web browser, how you zoom in and out.
But I am still skeptical about any new UI for leopard... anyone see the new DVD player UI? its quite sleek and flat. I hope apple does something more that line.
Return receipt features to Mail.app???!
So did they FINALLY add return receipt features to Mail.app???!
So did they FINALLY add return receipt features to Mail.app???!
Pro Web
Tech Talk was great. Nice for Apple to encourage developers. Core Animation is going to be awsome! I expect you will see it in subtle but significant ways.
One thing I took away from this was that Leopard is not anywhere near being done. Also, don't expect a radical change in the UI. There will be refinements, but it won't be substantially different as per previous rumors. They did show some things for the Finder and Spotlight I probably shouldn't say anything about. But, it was super nice.
That being said, I do believe that Apple is going to extend the UI in various ways that will be application specific. Time Machine is a perfect example. One way this will be accomplished is full screen mode like in iPhoto. Add to that Spaces and you get an idea how your desktop experiance is going to change -- for the better.
One thing I found interesting, as a web developer, was how much Python kept coming up in the discussions. Though, Apple is improving Cocoa, it's clear to me that Objective-C is the language of choice for OS X applications. There are bindings for Python and Ruby, but they seemed to be using Python for various things.
Speaking of Python and Ruby, it is possible that Apple will add a scripting editor for coding languages like Ruby and Python. I don't think they have decided yet, or it may come later as part of a yet announced technology.
The Wiki server in OS X server is driven by Python and JavaScript. I had heard another rumor that Apple was working on some sort of Web based technology for writing web sites. Nothing was said about this, but if true, I would expect it will use Python. Again, this is just my impression, so I'm probably wrong.
I would love to see Apple do this however. I like Ruby on Rails, but after seeing what they are doing with their Wiki, interface-wise, the thought that they might release a framework to create an Ajax like interfaces, similar to what I saw, with simplicity and ease would be awesome. WebObjects just isn't going anywhere. Since it's Java based, I suspect Apple is going to leave it as a back end technology.
But when you see how awesome these new UI designs are that run on OS X, there is going to be a desire to adapt this to the web. I don't know, I'm just rambling, but that Wiki looked really cool and was clearly taking desing cues from other OS X applications.
Adobe has Flex, Microsoft has .Net 3.0, there are a number of open source Ajax technologies, so what is Apple bringing to the web space? They didn't say, but one can hope. Perhaps some "pro" iWeb technology.
Tech Talk was great. Nice for Apple to encourage developers. Core Animation is going to be awsome! I expect you will see it in subtle but significant ways.
One thing I took away from this was that Leopard is not anywhere near being done. Also, don't expect a radical change in the UI. There will be refinements, but it won't be substantially different as per previous rumors. They did show some things for the Finder and Spotlight I probably shouldn't say anything about. But, it was super nice.
That being said, I do believe that Apple is going to extend the UI in various ways that will be application specific. Time Machine is a perfect example. One way this will be accomplished is full screen mode like in iPhoto. Add to that Spaces and you get an idea how your desktop experiance is going to change -- for the better.
One thing I found interesting, as a web developer, was how much Python kept coming up in the discussions. Though, Apple is improving Cocoa, it's clear to me that Objective-C is the language of choice for OS X applications. There are bindings for Python and Ruby, but they seemed to be using Python for various things.
Speaking of Python and Ruby, it is possible that Apple will add a scripting editor for coding languages like Ruby and Python. I don't think they have decided yet, or it may come later as part of a yet announced technology.
The Wiki server in OS X server is driven by Python and JavaScript. I had heard another rumor that Apple was working on some sort of Web based technology for writing web sites. Nothing was said about this, but if true, I would expect it will use Python. Again, this is just my impression, so I'm probably wrong.
I would love to see Apple do this however. I like Ruby on Rails, but after seeing what they are doing with their Wiki, interface-wise, the thought that they might release a framework to create an Ajax like interfaces, similar to what I saw, with simplicity and ease would be awesome. WebObjects just isn't going anywhere. Since it's Java based, I suspect Apple is going to leave it as a back end technology.
But when you see how awesome these new UI designs are that run on OS X, there is going to be a desire to adapt this to the web. I don't know, I'm just rambling, but that Wiki looked really cool and was clearly taking desing cues from other OS X applications.
Adobe has Flex, Microsoft has .Net 3.0, there are a number of open source Ajax technologies, so what is Apple bringing to the web space? They didn't say, but one can hope. Perhaps some "pro" iWeb technology.
Steve did mention that there were more features in Leopard, which they want to keep secret.
I won't say Steve never exaggerates, nor "polishes the truth" a little, but there probably will be two or three "tadaaa!!" features which will be demoed probably a few weeks before the GM. If not, Steve will be quoted everywhere about these secret features which never made into Leopard, making it look really bad.
And that date would be those few weeks before the GM
The Problem with return receipts is that they rely on the receiver's e-mail program to send them. As of yet there is no industry standard on return receipts. Apple could impliment something, but it would either have to be a reverse engineered version of what Outlook impliments (which is dangerous) or would only work if someone else with Mail receives the message.
Apple doesn't like technologies that could fail beyond the average user's scope of understanding. Why didn't I get that return receipt from Aunt Milly? Did she not read it? Is she running a new version of Outlook? Is she checking her mail with Thunderbird or a webmail program? These are questions that require the user to know to much and ruin any sort of functionality.
Outlook could impliment something like this on the corperate side because 90% of businesses use Exchange servers... Apple doesn't have that luxury