That is why having options in System Preferences can be a good thing...this seems like a bit of a rush job, and I would like not to have to use a haxie to go to the Tiger dock...
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Mac OS X Leopard 9A581's Dock Visual Tweaks
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That is why having options in System Preferences can be a good thing...this seems like a bit of a rush job, and I would like not to have to use a haxie to go to the Tiger dock...
I don't see how the previous 3D dock-at-the-side look was a "visual inconsistency". If anything, NOW it's inconsistent, because the Dock has different looks depending on where you put it.
The whole gravity argument is the lamest thing ever. If there's supposedly gravity on your screen, why don't your windows all fall to the bottom? That would be the logical conclusion if you think that items in the 3D dock-at-the-side should fall off as well. Furthermore, there's no reason to think that this visual change changes the concept of gravity -- why don't they fall off anyway? They still have to be "nailed" to the side.
Actually, there's no concept of "gravity" in a virtual interface, so there was no "inconsistency" to begin with. It was just a bunch of whiny users who don't like the look. That's fine -- but instead of insisting on different looks based on where the Dock is positioned, why not... *gasp*... have a hidden preference like everything else?
Sheesh.
The whole gravity argument is the lamest thing ever. If there's supposedly gravity on your screen, why don't your windows all fall to the bottom? That would be the logical conclusion if you think that items in the 3D dock-at-the-side should fall off as well. Furthermore, there's no reason to think that this visual change changes the concept of gravity -- why don't they fall off anyway? They still have to be "nailed" to the side.
Actually, there's no concept of "gravity" in a virtual interface, so there was no "inconsistency" to begin with. It was just a bunch of whiny users who don't like the look. That's fine -- but instead of insisting on different looks based on where the Dock is positioned, why not... *gasp*... have a hidden preference like everything else?
Sheesh.
Awesome!!!! It's so good when Apple listen to us. Microsoft never listened to people like this (in my opinion).
10.5 seems all the sweeter.
And my first first post.
A little spit and polish always helps.
They don't NEED any of those things. What they do need in a scoll bar is one that scrolls, and they have that regardless of what it looks like. If you'd like it to look different, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But lets not confuse NEED with quibbling over which aesthetics are more pretty to you.
Does anyone know if the Leopard software will provide for more efficient use of the new duo-core intel processors that are in the Apple Pro and going into other Macs??? I would like to see a speed increase and more efficient use of the two duo-core processors in my computer.
Yes.
I hope there is a nice transition between the two, at the moment the Dock just switches from bottom to left or right. A simple fade our then in would be cool. Utilising Core Animation to have the icons fly from the bottom to their new position on the side would be even better
The On / Off switch is probably there because:
A) It better maps to real life, we have lots of On / Off switches in real life, I have never seen a radio button in real life.
B) It looks cool. <-- This is particularly important!
I wouldn't read more into it than that. Having said that multi-touch in some form is almost inevitable on Macs at some stage.
Back to the thread, people who mention quicksilver forget two things:
A) You can't see what's running at a glance.
B) New users might not remember the name of the app. They just know to click on the big blue compass for the internet and the postage stamp for email (Like my Mum and Dad).
It's the whole Recall Vs Recognition debate. Recognition generally wins hands down, it is far faster.
Quicksilver is a power users tool, and a darned fine one at that, but it is not the end-all solution for everyone. The Dock is perfectly adequate for many users.
Having Quicksilver as default would be a disaster, CMD/CTRL - SPACE would be the new CTRL - ALT - DELETE. You need to do a two fingered key combination just to launch an app! the critics would exclaim. And they would be right.
The On / Off switch is probably there because:
A) It better maps to real life, we have lots of On / Off switches in real life, I have never seen a radio button in real life.
B) It looks cool. <-- This is particularly important!
I wouldn't read more into it than that. Having said that multi-touch in some form is almost inevitable on Macs at some stage.
Back to the thread, people who mention quicksilver forget two things:
A) You can't see what's running at a glance.
B) New users might not remember the name of the app. They just know to click on the big blue compass for the internet and the postage stamp for email (Like my Mum and Dad).
It's the whole Recall Vs Recognition debate. Recognition generally wins hands down, it is far faster.
Quicksilver is a power users tool, and a darned fine one at that, but it is not the end-all solution for everyone. The Dock is perfectly adequate for many users.
Having Quicksilver as default would be a disaster, CMD/CTRL - SPACE would be the new CTRL - ALT - DELETE. You need to do a two fingered key combination just to launch an app! the critics would exclaim. And they would be right.
Oh Yeah, Apple listen...
And what about scrollbars and bottoms? A lot of people are talking abouit it, but it seems that Apple really don´t care. Delayings and more delayings for this...
I laught with "Over +300 features" (I think it should be 10 or 20 after reading)
but they can´t do a unified UI, maybe in 10.6 or 10.7 ?
I still remember rumors about a completly new redesing Ui, "Illuminous" or something like that. Where is it?
Anyway, it´s our fault, we´ll go to buy Leopard this friday like stupids.
Congratulations Apple.
And what about scrollbars and bottoms? A lot of people are talking abouit it, but it seems that Apple really don´t care. Delayings and more delayings for this...
I laught with "Over +300 features" (I think it should be 10 or 20 after reading)
but they can´t do a unified UI, maybe in 10.6 or 10.7 ?
I still remember rumors about a completly new redesing Ui, "Illuminous" or something like that. Where is it?
Anyway, it´s our fault, we´ll go to buy Leopard this friday like stupids.
Congratulations Apple.
woohoo! far better. Thanks John Gruber for your incessant bitching re: the dock. It looks like Apple is listening.
/dock on the side lover
/dock on the side lover
It's not "not legal", it just breaks an NDA. Since MR didn't sign an NDA, they're not in any danger of getting into trouble.
And since the build has leaked, screenshots are the least of apple's worries.
Umm bullcrap.
Have you ever been on a conference call with Apple's development team who asks YOU questions on what you want? If not I'd like to introduce you to the System Management Server team or pretty much any of MS's corp development teams.Highlighted for relevance.
Apple NEVER. Not once mentioned a new UI.
You don't look around much, do you?
Ah you youngins, didn't think to use a picture of a radio? Or haven't you seen one of those?
I am with you. In fact, that is my default picture now.
Well I just got my Amiga 1000 emulator up and running so I don't need no stinking dock any more anyway. Leopard shmeopard, I have Workbench!
seriously though, I think I prefered the grass to the nebula, who's with me?
Those aren't technically "radio buttons" like in an OS, they're just buttons. And the buttons on an elevator work more like GUI check boxes since you can select multiple ones at a time.
Radio buttons mean that selecting one deselects one or more other ones, and neither of those works like that. A better example would be an old radio where selecting FM makes the AM button pop out.
You don't look around much, do you?
A radio button has a very unique property. Only one button from the set can be selected at any one time. Those just look like standard buttons to me. If anyone can think of an example of a real-life radio button, please let me know, because I'm lost.
Um, you're wrong. You can't be both watching the broadcast TV show and the DVD player movie, selecting one automatically deselects the other. You can't both be watching channel 2 and channel 4 at the same time, selecting one deselects the other.
Well I just got my Amiga 1000 emulator up and running so I don't need no stinking dock any more anyway. Leopard shmeopard, I have Workbench!
seriously though, I think I prefered the grass to the nebula, who's with me?
Workbench Rocks! and it even had resolution independance! way back in the early 90's!
Um... EVERYONE, one click is sure as hell a lot better than 5 layers through a menu in Windows LOL. i LOVE the dock and I don't clutter it with useless things, only the things I use all the time.
How about a radio button?
This might be before your time, but radio presets used to be mapped to buttons. You could only select one at a time.