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Another set of buttons that many people use every day and only one can be pressed at a time:

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Um, you're wrong. You can't be both watching the broadcast TV show and the DVD player movie, selecting one automatically deselects the other. You can't both be watching channel 2 and channel 4 at the same time, selecting one deselects the other.

The buttons don't physically change appearance though when selected / deselected. to indicate your selection, unless I am mistaken.
 
The buttons don't physically change appearance though when selected / deselected. to indicate your selection, unless I am mistaken.

There's absolutely a visual change showing that you've got one choice selected and not the other, it's on your TV screen. (not that that has anything significant to do with how a radio button works anyway)
 
The buttons don't physically change appearance though when selected / deselected. to indicate your selection, unless I am mistaken.

They used to (and still do, via lights on most receivers/amps). The term 'radio button' comes from a time when buttons were a little more tactile than they are today.
 
Another set of buttons that many people use every day and only one can be pressed at a time:

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Good example....wait...how the heck did this become a thread about radio buttons?

Anyway, this new look for the dock on the sides reminds me of the way stacks looks in grid mode, w/ the outline and darker background color.
 
This has been an education for me!

Perhaps Apple wants to bring its UI elements bang up to date.
 
I skimmed

I skimmed most of this thread and haven't found anyone else thinking the same thing as me: Does this mean that they got rid of the blue scroll bars in favor of the itunes bars?

(I hope they did!)

visual tweaks are so nice.
 
My favorite part of the dock change: No reflections.

Reflections, in no way: Guide me, inform me or enlighten me as to anything relevant to using Mac OS X.

In fact, reflections only confuse and complicate the UI.

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I skimmed most of this thread and haven't found anyone else thinking the same thing as me: Does this mean that they got rid of the blue scroll bars in favor of the itunes bars?

(I hope they did!)

visual tweaks are so nice.
No, I wish they had though...
 
so it appears as if we'll have an option to display a 3D dock or keep the look of the current 2D dock... but i doubt apple is "listening"... please, they pay world class designers a LOT of money to design their products... the opinions of 15 year old macrumors users == nil.
 
Finally, the secret feature is out!



Apple's Gold Master (Retail) version of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard has at least one visual tweak over the developer seeds. It appears Apple has listened to user feedback about the visual inconsistency with dock items appearing on a 3d shelf on the Left and Right side of the screen.


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Apple has updated the Dock so that it has a 2-Dimensional appearance when it resides on the side of the screen. When residing on the bottom of the screen, the Dock retains the 3d shelf appearance.

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This must have been the big secret feature his Steveness was talking about.:D

LOL

Love it now! I dislike the 3D Dock... has that Gumby Bear look. Ugh!

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I keep running into an increasing number of former Windows "power users" pining for options to rice out their desktops. It's absurd for a number of reasons, not the least significant of which being Apple's overall philosophy--they produce cohesive and complete products which are designed in the truest sense of the word. They're not going to go all KDE on configuration options. The design is meant to be consistent, clean, and universal. Just look at all the horrible Firefox themes out there that don't implement everything properly or just give up in certain corners. Most people with "customized" desktops have a horrible mismatch of elements and no sense of design, and that's not the image Apple wants for its products.

Fixed, limited configurations are the norm (cars, small electrics, furniture), particularly from vendors that have an image to emphasize and maintain. For the people that really want it, there are third party utilities like ShapeShifter.

Instead of complaining about how Apple won't let you mix and match to your heart's content and getting so defensive about your fight for ugly skins, maybe consider that part of the reason some of us are Apple customers is just for that exercise of restraint. Knock yourself out with ShapeShifter...but just accept that Apple goes for aesthetics and simplicity, and that comes at a cost. We're okay with it, and it doesn't have anything to do with loving every single detail and change Apple produces. It has to do with a different approach to personal computing that doesn't involve being everything to everyone.
It's not "not legal", it just breaks an NDA.
That's the same thing. A fully perfected and executed contract is law. Breaking it is unlawful ("not legal").
Since MR didn't sign an NDA, they're not in any danger of getting into trouble.
True enough. I think the question pertained more to the person who posted the screen shot, though, and not to MR's reposting.
 
apple store uk is down wonder what they are updating???

Been down for ages... still down now. (*is not trying to visit to continuously check on preorder of Leopard... not at all* :eek: )


As to the topic of this thread - I think a friend of mine will like that the dock isn't 3D on the side anymore. I have mine at the bottom anyway so doesn't bother me. Though it's nice to see :apple: listening :)
 
Furthermore, there's no reason to think that this visual change changes the concept of gravity -- why don't they fall off anyway? They still have to be "nailed" to the side.

Because they are lying flat on the Dock, like in Tiger.

The metaphor changed in Leopard: now icons are standing on a 3D dock. that just doesn't work on the sides of the screen. it looks weird.

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One question though....where did the Leopard 'grass' wallpaper go? I thought that was gonna be the new look. Is the space background official now?? :confused:
 
Very nice final tweak.

So does this mean that someone got their leopard early? Or is this developer, torrent or "inside" source related?
 
It's good that Apple listens to the feedback, but the problem is that there are many of us out here who pin our dock to the side who were looking forward to that 3D look. I didn't have any particular problem with visualizing it on the side either as I'm not so inflexible in my thinking that I can't imagine the dock just being "sticky" when it comes to icons and therefore it would work in that location just fine.

Now that isn't available because a lot of people complained about it. I wonder how many of those complaining actually put their dock on the side.

I hope Apple gives an option somewhere to use that look on the side anyway. I wanted it.
 
Those aren't technically "radio buttons" like in an OS, they're just buttons. And the buttons on an elevator work more like GUI check boxes since you can select multiple ones at a time.

Radio buttons mean that selecting one deselects one or more other ones, and neither of those works like that. A better example would be an old radio where selecting FM makes the AM button pop out.

I'd always assumed Apple got the radio button idea from the antique light switch where you had two buttons for on and off, each of which toggled the other when pressed. Google isn't turning up an image of one in the faceplate, but here's the actual switch itself.

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Shame they didn't listen to the majority of users who keep the dock on the bottom and don't want it 3d.

Joke, right? The majority of users probably don't even know what's coming in Leopard, let alone the exact appearance of the dock. And if they didn't, they wouldn't care.
 
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