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Mac OS X Leopard, iLife, and iWork Coming in June 2007?
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No. In fact, after Leopard is released, MacBooks will actually be bundled with a special Intel version of Jaguar (Mac OS X 10.2) instead of Tiger (10.4) as they are at present.
It's going to be even worse for Mac mini buyers, they'll be getting Mac OS 6. No decision has been made yet as to whether it'll come with the Multifinder.
Please ignore the last response, and welcome to the forums.
After Leopard is released all new Macs will come loaded with it, or at the very least with a certificate for a free upgrade (this usually happens with computers ordered during the gap between the official release date and the shipping date).
This is standard operating procedure for all new OS versions.
In retrospect, this was perhaps not the ideal place to post your question: a thread in the "Mac basics and Help" forum would have been a better choice...but no big deal.
Please ignore the last response, and welcome to the forums.
After Leopard is released all new Macs will come loaded with it, or at the very least with a certificate for a free upgrade (this usually happens with computers ordered during the gap between the official release date and the shipping date).
Firstly, Hi all, my first post here. I have just become a switcher and have a MBP 17".....love it. As far the OS is concerned I feel that Vista is probably no better than the current Tiger. I was trying to wait for Leopard but as you can see, I could not.
When Leaopard comes out what is the thought on upgrade price etc. I will want to upgrade straight away as I am an early adopter type.
Leopard will probaly cost 129â¬/us$ for a single licence or 199â¬/us$ for the family pack.
Should cost the same as tiger,whatever it costs in australia.
I work at a Staples here in Calgary, Canada in the computer department and had an interesting observation regarding Apple products a few days ago. Take from it what you will, but every week we get a list of products to send back to the manufacturers (recalls, defective product, stuff they are replacing with new products, etc), and the list this week included iLife '06 and iWork '06. We had two copies of each, and we were instructed to send back one of each.
Don't know if that means anything, but you'd think that if they were getting stores to send back stock of those products, they'd be replacing it fairly soon. Who knows.
Don't know if that means anything, but you'd think that if they were getting stores to send back stock of those products, they'd be replacing it fairly soon. Who knows.
If you think about it, all copies of the Mac OS are effectively "upgrades" because in order to install it (legally) you need a Mac, which already comes with a copy of the OS.
Upgrade price is usually /$129.00 or £99.99.
If it includes iWork and/or iLife (there is some speculation this may be the case) then I think you can expect to pay a little more.
I have a feeling Apple may raise the price for this one regardless as it is the most significant upgrade in a while and they haven't put the price up for the best part of 6 years.
(I paid £99 for 10.0 in March 2001)
i don`t care...
i don`t care how long it will take, as long as there are new rumors every time i visit this site! (wich is like every day
i am kind of the computer-nerd-tech-guy for my friends and family and everyone who wanted to buy a new pc with vista is now going to buy a mac with leopard. i told them it`ll be easier, plain better and they`ll be cooler
i can`t remember apple disappointed their "community" OS-wise anyhow. so leopard is going to be great and will be the best OS and worth the laughable 99$ upgrade.
as one of my predecessors wrote: "it will make for a happy summer!"
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one thing i hope for though, is better graphic cards to choose from!
why can`t there be 8800 gtx in iMacs? i hope someday the iMacs are more upgradable...
i don`t care how long it will take, as long as there are new rumors every time i visit this site! (wich is like every day
i am kind of the computer-nerd-tech-guy for my friends and family and everyone who wanted to buy a new pc with vista is now going to buy a mac with leopard. i told them it`ll be easier, plain better and they`ll be cooler
i can`t remember apple disappointed their "community" OS-wise anyhow. so leopard is going to be great and will be the best OS and worth the laughable 99$ upgrade.
as one of my predecessors wrote: "it will make for a happy summer!"
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one thing i hope for though, is better graphic cards to choose from!
why can`t there be 8800 gtx in iMacs? i hope someday the iMacs are more upgradable...
Multitouch work with current Macs?
I have been lurking for a few months- and I am ready to make to make the switch from PC to Mac (I was orig an Apple //c user, then had a mac, but have been a PC user for the past 7 years)
I am checking daily for ANY news on Leopard's release, since that is when I plan on biting the bullet. My educated guess is that Leopard will make use of Multitouch, as the iPhone does.
My question is this-
1) if I get sick of waiting, and get a Macbook or Macbook pro, what do you think the limitation is going to be once Leopard comes out. If Multitouch is indeed a feature, will the touchpads on a Macbook support it? My guess is yes, since you can do the two finger scroll thing.
2) It seems that the response on the Macs I have played with in the apple store is far better with a real mouse, than the touchpad. Mostly because of the squeeze functions, and the roll ball and right clicking. How easy is it to do all of these features with a trackpad? Is it a combination of a keyboard button press and a mouse click? Is it possible to di it one handed?
3) What is the educated guess on a hardware release simultaneously wth Leopard? Does Apple typically do a hardware release at the same time as an OS update? Why get Leopard and a Macbook if an improved Macbook is coming out only a month later?
Thanks!!!!
I have been lurking for a few months- and I am ready to make to make the switch from PC to Mac (I was orig an Apple //c user, then had a mac, but have been a PC user for the past 7 years)
I am checking daily for ANY news on Leopard's release, since that is when I plan on biting the bullet. My educated guess is that Leopard will make use of Multitouch, as the iPhone does.
My question is this-
1) if I get sick of waiting, and get a Macbook or Macbook pro, what do you think the limitation is going to be once Leopard comes out. If Multitouch is indeed a feature, will the touchpads on a Macbook support it? My guess is yes, since you can do the two finger scroll thing.
2) It seems that the response on the Macs I have played with in the apple store is far better with a real mouse, than the touchpad. Mostly because of the squeeze functions, and the roll ball and right clicking. How easy is it to do all of these features with a trackpad? Is it a combination of a keyboard button press and a mouse click? Is it possible to di it one handed?
3) What is the educated guess on a hardware release simultaneously wth Leopard? Does Apple typically do a hardware release at the same time as an OS update? Why get Leopard and a Macbook if an improved Macbook is coming out only a month later?
Thanks!!!!
No. Multitouch is for displays, not for touchpads. Touchpads don't have a 1:1 relationship with the screen, so it would be impossible to use such a feature to manipulate objects.
There is no squeeze on a touchpad (or most mice, for that matter). Right clicking is simple (and can be done with one hand [ctrl-click, use your thumb for the touchpad]), and two-finger scrolling is about as easy as it gets.
No one really knows. There's not enough in the way of consistency with the past to make a guess that's more likely than any other. Anyone who claims otherwise is misleading you. Signs point to a near end-to-end product line refresh at some point. Whether it will happen all at once, or in sequential releases, no one outside Apple knows. Whether it happens before, with, or after Leopard is also unknown.
There will definitely be new Macs this year, and there will definitely be Leopard this year. If you can wait for the holidays, you'd wind up with Leopard and a superior new Mac, perhaps with new features, and maybe just better specs. If you can't wait, Leopard will work fine on any current Mac.
Hey- Thanks for a very well formulated response! But I have one question- it seems that you should be able to do a pinch maneuver with a touchpad if it supports multiple touch locations to input. In other words, you move your arrow to the picture with a onefinger maneuver (like normal), but then you pinch or grow the image. I think if this is the case, the current touchpad may be ok. (then again, i wonder if this is really that big of a feature to want)
No problem!
The "squeeze" motion on the Mighty Mouse just acts as an additional button, something other mice have had in abundance for years. If you want the effect of multiple buttons on your touchpad, there are third-party utilities that allow you to use the corners to perform dedicated actions without having to make a complicated and unintuitive gesture (many users on MR have experience with this). "Squeeze" works well because you're actually holding an object in your hand. Trying to reproduce that on a flat surface seems counterproductive to me.
Adding to this--and something I found even more fascinating: I had a gentleman on the phone today who was looking for a black Macbook. I knew we were sold out, so I checked our computer to see if we had any on order and noticed two things:
1) We didn't have any on order.
2) There was an "xxx" in the item title line, which means the item has been discontinued, or in the case of computers, printers and the like, the model is being replaced or we are not carrying it anymore.
I know for a fact we are continuing to carry the Macbooks, we spoke with the Apple rep the other day about carrying the Macbook Pro. I then checked our other Macbook models (not the Pro, I will do this tommorow) and they were all marked with the "xxx" label.
What this tells me is that Apple will likely be replacing the Macbooks very soon. Of course, there have been steady rumors of a refresh to the Macbook/Pro line in the way of Santa Rosa chipsets, among other things. What that spells out for Leopard, it seems un-Apple-like that they would release the new Macbooks and Leopard within a fairly short time frame of each other.
I'm inclined to believe that Leopard will be released sooner rather than later (late April to mid-May?) because of this.
Wondering if anyone else works at a computer store has noticed this?
Can any other Apple store people confirm this report? This may be big news if true.
Please xoxoxox I need more info!!!!!
im begging!!!
is this the start of the end or end of the start??
I want to get a new macbook pro with leopard
Please xoxoxox I need more info!!!!!
im begging!!!
is this the start of the end or end of the start??
I want to get a new macbook pro with leopard
i would like to know as well
Well I guess they could always announce them ast NAB with shipping dates for May or something but they'd have to update Tiger to make use of the NAND flash so I wouldn't hold my breath.
i would smile at that
what i meant to say, is that I would smile at ANY announcement
Interesting stuff, though I'm disinclined to believe the Leopard speculation. Apple doesn't ever seen to combine their major Mac OS X and hardware releases, they usually seem to be entirely separate. I think there are several good reasons, from Apple's point of view, for this, from the avoidance of confusion about where particular problems may lay, through the need to ensure there's an established tested body of software for new computer models, to simply the extra revenue it results in from early adopters.
That and, again, there's no event scheduled where Teh Steve can show off the new features of Leopard to a *suitable* audience before WWDC.
Macworld is reporting that Leopard won't be released until October, due to iPhone delays.
*sigh* I can't wait that long for a hardware upgrade. I really wanted a Mini with Leopard already on it. Dang.
*sigh* I can't wait that long for a hardware upgrade. I really wanted a Mini with Leopard already on it. Dang.