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Mac OS X Leopard, iLife, and iWork Coming in June 2007?
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I agree iLife needs an identifier as well. I still wouldn't be surprised to see it follow the previous iLife trend and called iLife 07 though. I know half the year will be gone by the time it emerges but it will still be the 2007 version.
No, they didn't. Office has Word 12, Excel 11, various other version numbers in the other products. The common identifier is "200x" but the version numbers are different among the products. (Edit: the 2007 RTM uses the suite version number for all products; products were all renumbered to match. This would be like Apple changing the numbers on all iLife products to "version 8" to harmonize).But Microsoft changed that, didn't they? I wonder why.
They would look at the version number, just like they do with other software. OS X is all newbies know about the operating system. They have to look at version information and report 10.4.8 to get help.
iLife doesn't need an "identifier." All it needs is a version number. It works for other software just fine--people don't walk around saying "Adium 1.2.1" or "Safari 2.1" or "Address Book 4.0.4." They just call them Adium, Safari, and Address Book.
There's no reason why iLife needs to be called anything other than "iLife." No software exists without version numbers (even products branded as "CS2" or "2007" have actual version numbers associated with them), but versioning doesn't need to take place concomitant with branding. That's all I'm saying. It doesn't need a name; it already has one. Dropping the year off the product wouldn't create any problems.
But iLife isn't a piece of software, it's a bundle, and Apple has it set up so that all of the apps in iLife have their separate version numbers.
So? They can continue to have their own version numbers, or they can be renumbered so that they all match the suite's version number. You're all creating a barrier to naming that doesn't exist.
Of course, this has already been covered in the page-and-a-half thread.
So how close to release do I have to order my macbook pro to get upgrade coupon?
I need a new machine sooner than later and I don't think I can wait until June. Do I have to wait until 30 days within release? Thoughts?
Cheers,
Lars
I need a new machine sooner than later and I don't think I can wait until June. Do I have to wait until 30 days within release? Thoughts?
Cheers,
Lars
Wow
WOW you people amaze me. It doesn't matter what happens you just wanna bit@h about something.... I don't like the name Leopard..... I think there should be a number.... No it should be a version... This isn't news... OMG can you even hear yourselves? The more I read these forums, the more I start to hate them. I like these forums when we can share cool ideas and discuss things maturely, but most of the time it is just stupid whining and even ridiculing people. If we were all together and had a forum meeting in person would you all act like this to eachother?
Just something to think about a little (no offense to the innocent).
WOW you people amaze me. It doesn't matter what happens you just wanna bit@h about something.... I don't like the name Leopard..... I think there should be a number.... No it should be a version... This isn't news... OMG can you even hear yourselves? The more I read these forums, the more I start to hate them. I like these forums when we can share cool ideas and discuss things maturely, but most of the time it is just stupid whining and even ridiculing people. If we were all together and had a forum meeting in person would you all act like this to eachother?
Just something to think about a little
(no offense to the innocent).WOW you people amaze me. It doesn't matter what happens you just wanna bit@h about something.... I don't like the name Leopard..... I think there should be a number.... No it should be a version... This isn't news... OMG can you even hear yourselves? The more I read these forums, the more I start to hate them. I like these forums when we can share cool ideas and discuss things maturely, but most of the time it is just stupid whining and even ridiculing people. If we were all together and had a forum meeting in person would you all act like this to eachother?
Just something to think about a little
There does seem to be a decline in good topics/posts recently or at the very least an increase in garbage.
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The naming procedure is not so simple.
There are at least these points to think of:
iLife Leopard / iLife for Leopard:
+ new naming connotation emphasizes new value
+ refresh the brand
+ version clear
+ Leopard gets extra value
- will there be iLife Leopard v2 before the next OS version?
- how about comptability with previous OS versions
Just iLife:
+ simple, elegant
- no way to differentiate between versions
- needs extra parameters when really sold, not only marketed
iLife 07
+ tells the version
- out of date very soon
iLife 7
+ simplier than 07
- version 7 is not the same than 07 (or is it really by coinsidence?)
iLife n.n (where n.n is a version number)
+ Easy to go in the future
- Apple does not like version numbers in the markiting
- Can be counfused with previous iLife versions. New iLife 5.0 just out! But I already have 06!
iLife: Leopard edition
+ same good reasons than "iLife Leopard"
- more complicated than just "iLife Leopard" ad not so striking
iLife Rev./Revision Leopard
+ could be more Apple-like than "edition"
+ like iMac Rev. A or imac Rev B.
- Rev. reminds too much "internal term". Not so good for the marketing.
iLife 8 or 08
+ progressive, longer refreshness
- not so honest, what happened to 07?
Then there is even possibility for a combination : iLife 07 Leopard. This is already slightly too complicated to be really Applesque.
My bet is "iLife Leopard", if the iLife really comes at the same time than the new OS. They need to have extra marketing for the new OS version because of Vista. And for the same reason iLife/iWork could be extremely Leopard-like.
Anything except Millenium Edition, sorry, Leopard Edition would do fine for me, for obvious reasons .
The naming procedure is not so simple.
There are at least these points to think of:
iLife Leopard / iLife for Leopard:
+ new naming connotation emphasizes new value
+ refresh the brand
+ version clear
+ Leopard gets extra value
- will there be iLife Leopard v2 before the next OS version?
- how about comptability with previous OS versions
Just iLife:
+ simple, elegant
- no way to differentiate between versions
- needs extra parameters when really sold, not only marketed
iLife 07
+ tells the version
- out of date very soon
iLife 7
+ simplier than 07
- version 7 is not the same than 07 (or is it really by coinsidence?)
iLife n.n (where n.n is a version number)
+ Easy to go in the future
- Apple does not like version numbers in the markiting
- Can be counfused with previous iLife versions. New iLife 5.0 just out! But I already have 06!
iLife: Leopard edition
+ same good reasons than "iLife Leopard"
- more complicated than just "iLife Leopard" ad not so striking
iLife Rev./Revision Leopard
+ could be more Apple-like than "edition"
+ like iMac Rev. A or imac Rev B.
- Rev. reminds too much "internal term". Not so good for the marketing.
iLife 8 or 08
+ progressive, longer refreshness
- not so honest, what happened to 07?
Then there is even possibility for a combination : iLife 07 Leopard. This is already slightly too complicated to be really Applesque.
My bet is "iLife Leopard", if the iLife really comes at the same time than the new OS. They need to have extra marketing for the new OS version because of Vista. And for the same reason iLife/iWork could be extremely Leopard-like.
Anything except Millenium Edition, sorry, Leopard Edition would do fine for me, for obvious reasons
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bring 'em on. I am much more interested in some super powerful hardware than a few new and updated features on what is already a great OS.
I need more power.....
As far as the "new features" go, I'm sure Apple pulled a similar stunt to the way they developed the iPhone OS, by splitting features from developer builds and having different testers test different parts, and none but Steve knowing the complete end-result. So yeah, there's a good chance that Leopard will look very different than testers are leaking and "the media" is reporting.
Bit pointless for a lot of people tho? I admit I haven't used that suite but do you think that will add a lot to it?
I do like the theory tho - the "new unannounced feature(s)" could easily be the inclusion of iLife/iWork which would make more sense as its less work to include a standard app/suite over trying to get a special new feature out without it being included and tested in the developer builds.
And because most people live in the Northern Hemisphere, it's become convention.
I am sure that the dwellers in the Southern Hemishpere are all use to this by now.
Furthermore, I told someone it wouldn't come in April - so what do I get? I said I would give my iMac if it happens... where's my offer
No chance are you getting it.
Oh, that's just great
We've all been expecting awsome, revelutionary "Top Secret Features" in Leopard. Now you're saying a big part of this "top secret features" will be iWork - which at least as far as I've seen is the biggest piece of junk bunch of software to come out of Apple in a long time.... Keynote looks pretty good, but there's only one other app in the suite, Pages, and it is a total, featureless, piece of junk. This should by no means be included in Leopard as a "Top Secret Feature". What a JOKE 
IMO iLife should be part of OSX.
Why?
Because with Mac's things are supposed to "just work", you can make your home videos, create your own songs, build a website bla bla bla. The thing is, this is NOT a bundled feature of OSX, if you buy a used Mac and decide to get Leopard you have to 75$ on top of it just to create the kind of content that Apple makes sound so "native" and "out of the box".
I'm just saying this because, when I took the plunge and bought the 24" iMac, I only knew afterwards that iLife was bundled with every Mac purchased but not with OSX itself. I was reading a OSX Vs Windows comparasion chart and a lot of topics won or tied by the PC side were like "No native photo editing program", and I was like "what about iphoto?" oops, not bundled with OSX.. And more examples that prove OSX has much more value with iLife inside, check them out if you'd like:
www.xvsxp.com
From what I know about Apple I think it's not like them to divide products when there is no real need to do so.
My humble opinion. It should be: Leopard (with iLife included) - 200$.
*As for the release date.. I've been saying June ever since the WWDC 07 date was announced
Why?
Because with Mac's things are supposed to "just work", you can make your home videos, create your own songs, build a website bla bla bla. The thing is, this is NOT a bundled feature of OSX, if you buy a used Mac and decide to get Leopard you have to 75$ on top of it just to create the kind of content that Apple makes sound so "native" and "out of the box".
I'm just saying this because, when I took the plunge and bought the 24" iMac, I only knew afterwards that iLife was bundled with every Mac purchased but not with OSX itself. I was reading a OSX Vs Windows comparasion chart and a lot of topics won or tied by the PC side were like "No native photo editing program", and I was like "what about iphoto?" oops, not bundled with OSX.. And more examples that prove OSX has much more value with iLife inside, check them out if you'd like:
www.xvsxp.com
From what I know about Apple I think it's not like them to divide products when there is no real need to do so.
My humble opinion. It should be: Leopard (with iLife included) - 200$.
*As for the release date.. I've been saying June ever since the WWDC 07 date was announced
personally, i was all whatever about the big cat "code-names"... no big deal, they're just "code-names"... untill of course the big cat code-names stuck like hot gum on a tennis shoe, and even Apple started (and continues) to present these code-names as reverent... ok ok, sure it's more creative, and very Apple-like, to name products instead of number them, 'cause "Leopard" is less confusing to consumers than "Mac OS 10.5"... but for serious, those big cat names have been around long enough and have got to go... honestly Apple...
why stop at renaming the iLife Suite... i hope one of the unexpected surprises of "Leopard" is a name change...
Long live the cat names.
I hope they ride them all the way to OS 15.5 Domestic Short-Hair.
meow.
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