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I couldn't wait anymore, I ordered my MacPro yesterday.
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Mac OS X Leopard, iLife, and iWork Coming in June 2007?
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Wise decision, good choice, and enjoy!
Apple please don't do this....
Leopard Standard: OS 1.5
Leopard Web: OS 1.5, iWeb, iPhoto
Leapard Web Premium: OS 1.5, iWeb, iPhoto, iMovie, Garageband
Leopard Home: OS 1.5, iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, iWork Standard
Leopard Professional: OS 1.5, iWork Professional, Safari Pro
....
Leopard Standard: OS 1.5
Leopard Web: OS 1.5, iWeb, iPhoto
Leapard Web Premium: OS 1.5, iWeb, iPhoto, iMovie, Garageband
Leopard Home: OS 1.5, iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, iWork Standard
Leopard Professional: OS 1.5, iWork Professional, Safari Pro
....
I don't know who decided that, over here, in Sweden, we celebrate midsummer at June 22nd, which is the day where the amount of daylight is the greatest. That is definatly not spring to me.
EMI Webcast in Windows Meda / Real Player? WTF?
WTF?!... Looks like the EMI & Steve Jobs Webcast is only available in Window Media or Real Player! WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF! Why are webmasters/managers so stupid?! These are two of the WORST technologies on the internet!
WTF?!... Looks like the EMI & Steve Jobs Webcast is only available in Window Media or Real Player! WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF! Why are webmasters/managers so stupid?! These are two of the WORST technologies on the internet!
The vernal equinox (June 21) is the shortest night in the northern hemisphere, and it defines the first day of summer.
I have predicted Apple will show Leopard at the WWDC Keynote (June 11), and announce it will be shipping by June 20th since last WWDC, where Jobs said 'Spring 2007'. To me, it has always been obvious that Spring 2007 gives them until June 20, and they're going to take as much time as they can to avoid releasing a buggy product.
The question is, can they keep the secrecy while throughly testing Leopard. I don't see how they can.
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They might just name them "iLife" and "iWork", without any additions, and bundle them in with Leopard. Improves the "single package" idea, and is 100% opposite from Microsoft; imagine: "Now you get an operating system and office suite for $150. Compare that to Microsoft. We were trying to order Vista to test iTunes on and couldn't figure out which version to buy. Then we had to buy office on top of that. It cost us thousands."
This is what a lot of people were saying back in November when I got my Mac Pro. So while they've been waiting and waiting, people like me have been having fun with with our "soon to be obsolete" Macs. Nyah Nyah!!!
I found this post by MacPomme very interesting
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=3492356#post3492356
While he may be wrong, he makes some great points. Well worth reading.
As he says - Apple may have tied the new OS development into some new hardware developments (just as the iPhone ties software and hardware development together). If this was so, a demonstration of Leopard would stop people buying the old hardware.
Big Surprise.
This is not news - this is obvious.
You are quite right. If one does not see leopard here then they are blind
http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/tracks/
Yeah but the one thing about this post that reverses the trend is the line "Leopard is shaping up to be a more significant release than anyone expected, with much more to come than any of the developer builds have led on."
People recently have been saying there are no "top secret" features.
We'll see, we'll see.
Whets your appetite even more, still, though doesn't it?
-=|Mgkwho
People recently have been saying there are no "top secret" features.
We'll see, we'll see.
Whets your appetite even more, still, though doesn't it?
-=|Mgkwho
what he said was exactly the reason i believed that Jobs said there were some secret features he would not reveal. With that said, there are couple things that bothered me.
1. Tiger handles handwriting anyway.
2. MS is not a hardware maker. Vista-hardware integration is much more difficult.
The iLife apps -- and iPhoto in particular -- have gotten so functional and user-friendly that much more than GUI tweaking would just junk them up. Although there's always room for incremental improvement, I didn't think there's a single must-have feature that iPhoto does not already have.
I disagree, iPhoto lacks the basic ability to "Hide" or "Password Lock" certain albums (aka Picasa Style), I for one find this absolutely necessary.
I believe this should also extend to the whole OS, Finder should give you the ability to Protect whatever folders you like, so that when you double click them to open, a password input box would appear, the same dialog it gives me when trying to install certain applications or make changes to System Preferences.
Privacy is getting harder to maintain in the digital era, I think Apple needs to start thinking about this, and No, different user accounts are not enough
I don't think iLife version 7 would work, because I only count 3 version '04, '05 and '06.
iLife:Leopard Edition needn't have a name if it is bundled with the OS.
For people questioning the worth of the article, I think it makes a number of interesting points:
So people who were going for June release weren't wrong.
But that doesn't mean those who were suggesting a March date were wrong either, as this was in the plans.
This is what many suspected and may explain the somewhat incomplete/lack of polish nature of the dev builds (I haven't tried one, I'm going off reports). I still think we'll get a new GUI, but I don't want to open another can of worms.
I think this is fair, I mean at the moment the Digital Photo capabilities of Tiger extend to Image Viewer and there if nothing for Movie/DVD creation, whereas in Windows Vista (providing you get the right version Home Basic Standard Give Balmer All Your Cash Premium Ultimate or whatever it's called!?) all these are included as features.
Again useful as it is consistent with what we have been hearing elsewhere.
iLife:Leopard Edition needn't have a name if it is bundled with the OS.
For people questioning the worth of the article, I think it makes a number of interesting points:
So people who were going for June release weren't wrong.
But that doesn't mean those who were suggesting a March date were wrong either, as this was in the plans.
This is what many suspected and may explain the somewhat incomplete/lack of polish nature of the dev builds (I haven't tried one, I'm going off reports). I still think we'll get a new GUI, but I don't want to open another can of worms.
I think this is fair, I mean at the moment the Digital Photo capabilities of Tiger extend to Image Viewer and there if nothing for Movie/DVD creation, whereas in Windows Vista (providing you get the right version Home Basic Standard Give Balmer All Your Cash Premium Ultimate or whatever it's called!?) all these are included as features.
Again useful as it is consistent with what we have been hearing elsewhere.
Well, to be fair..
NAMES- TIGER, LEOPARD- Don't give a sense of where it falls in time
YEARS- iLife '05, iWork '06
NUMBERS: MS actually does have these (you can find them in Windows' well-hidden equivalent of the "About this Mac" window), they just aren't as well known:
Vista = Windows 6.0
XP = Windows 5.0 (5.1 = SP1; 5.2 = SP2)
ME = Windows 4.9
98 = Windows 4.5
95 = Windows 4.0
While the individual applications don't have far to go, the whole method of interacting with media could be shifted.
eg: Why not merge iPhoto's slideshows with iMovie (either conceptually, or at a program level):
Think about the photo bar of a slideshow. It's a series of photos across the top of the screen - similar to the timeline in iMovie. Why not display the transitions between photos just like iMovie does, and allow the same editing options? And add a sound bar for the music in the slideshow. You could import video clips amongst the stills, and add the iMovie photo-effects that were demo'd in iMovie 06 ('family holiday snaps'). If you do that, how close are you to iMovie?
iMovie also needs better integration with AppleTV, and better movie sharing. Imagine a hybrid of online backups, with publishing online (like .Mac + youTube). For published movies with popular music, perhaps an option in iMovie to buy rights to the songs in the iMovie (for non-commercial use only).
iDVD - this could expand as the means for sharing your media with others.
It could have 5 burn options - all operating with menus etc like a regular DVD if you choose.
1) regular DVD, as it is now
2) high def DVD (h264 on regular DVD as specified by WB)
3) an iWeb page
4) a h264 .MP4 file that works on the AppleTV.
Could we share iMovies or slideshows to .Mac via the iDVD interface?
Garage band? Not sure, don't really use it. Perhaps better combinations of music for your movies.
iTunes: Not sure what to change. But ... why does the iPod/AppleTV sync happen from here?
Overall - we need a media management system for some libraries that are getting unwieldy, spread across multiple machines, and growing beyond the capacities of our hard disk.
I agree, and with all the people waiting to buy when leopard is released, the ship dates will be ridiculously far away
The biggest thing iPhoto is missing is preview before import. If I have 250 pictures on my memory card, and I just want the last photo brought in to iPhoto, I want a preview of what is on the camera so I can choose what to import, especially if I don't want the other 249 pictures on my computer. My old OS9 Olympus Camedia software could do this, I still can't believe it isn't in iPhoto yet.
It'd be nice for Apple to sell OSX online, wouldn't it? Via an Apple endorsed bittorrent-based technology.
Apple wants to make major improvements to the UI of iLife using Core Animation. In order to do this it HAS to be Leopard only. The best way to spur adoption of Leopard and iLife is to bundle them. This makes fantastic sense. Makes Leopard a strong story for the press iLife + Leopard.