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Mac OS X Leopard: Mail 3.0
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Really? What's wrong with the current search feature? I find that it works quite well, at least if the vast majority of the mail you're searching through is stored locally on your Mac, like mine is.
I've had cases where a search from Gmail was more successful than one in Mail for the same messages, other people have had similar experiences. And an interface for doing advanced searches could come in handy.
I find the search facility to be amazing already. I hardly bother organising my emails now because I know it's so quick and easy to search for anything.
Did they fix IMAP?
I think Mail 2.0 works fine with gmail. I've been using it with it for quite some time.
What I want to know is if Apple has finally fixed their IMAP support to login using the proper command? Mail issues a LIST command instead of LSUB after logging in to an IMAP server, which is incorrect. It can cause the client to download thousands of folders and emails on a shared folder system, essentially brining your Mac to it's knees.
I think Mail 2.0 works fine with gmail. I've been using it with it for quite some time.
What I want to know is if Apple has finally fixed their IMAP support to login using the proper command? Mail issues a LIST command instead of LSUB after logging in to an IMAP server, which is incorrect. It can cause the client to download thousands of folders and emails on a shared folder system, essentially brining your Mac to it's knees.
Bullet points - the entire business world revolves around them, so why doesn't Apple add this very simple feature? Honestly, how do their employees send "lists" to each other using Mac Mail, or do they use Outlook in Cupertino?
The lack of this feature is baffling.
I know - it's slightly annoying isn't it. I solved it by making a mail rule (via preferences) that automatically marks an email as read and puts it into my 'Sent' folder if the sender is me. Hope that is of some use to you.
alt-8 gives you a manual bullet point IIRC - not perfect, but some sort of solution
You're right, the gmail set up isn't quite perfect but I use it quite happily. I guess its just not good for your requirements.
I have it set so that it removes mail from the gmail inbox when its collected by mail. That means that when I'm away from my mac i can see any new messages i have received as they wont have been removed. You can get gmail to retain all the messages that are received and sent as well. So when i go to sent items they are there including the ones sent from mail and and if you click 'all mail' from the gmail menu you have a copy of all the emails you have received too. Just remember to use smtp.gmail.com as the outgoing mail address. It does work so just give me a shout if youd like me to clarify anything.
Ok I was planning to use Mail to manage my gmail after I got Leopard, but those 2 comments contradict each other and now I'm confused. Exactly what are the main problems for using gmail within Mail? I understand that "read" mails do not sync. What else?
Not to knock your post because any fix to no-so-perfect app is always welcome but I think what you are trying to do is a bit extreme for email. At my job (which lives on email) we never create multiple emails with 5MB+ files attached to each. That's actually a lot, most email clients allow for no more than 2MB file transfers or that much on the receiving end.
So if only 25% of the time you get a crash after doing all that heavy work that's actually pretty understandable.
Pity that it is almost mandatory for me and my clients.
We send/select pictures,check the proofs and comment on the post-production this wise.
Obviously the final pictures usually gets send around via ftp.
But in many,many,many cases the magazine spreads/covers get send around via mail as it might be the only way in that timeframe.
So yes,un-usuall maybe.
But a way of work that wont go away.
So a bit more robust system would be appreciated.
no doubt
novell is the worst. ever. i use mail for personal email accounts which works great. excited for the new version but i hope they fix the gmail "read" mail probs.
novell is the worst. ever. i use mail for personal email accounts which works great. excited for the new version but i hope they fix the gmail "read" mail probs.
Yes, Appleinsider has really improved their skills at writing, partly because their rumours aren't so accurate I guess..
Can you finally archive? Apple's mail app really is a piss poor excuse for anything other then the most basic of mail applications. Or at the very least needing to flip from app to app for e-mail\calendar is annoying as heck. At least to-do's are finally here, which IS a step in the right direction. I do like the concept of Detectors though. Potentially powerful depending on how "smart" it is.
Archiving support isn't really needed since you can always move messages to mailbox folders located on your Mac as a form of archival. That's what I do, and it works perfectly for my needs.
Do they still show up in the correct mail account. Would be good for an actual button to press though rather than jiggery pokery.
The answer is no - once archived in this way, the messages are no longer associated with any of your Mail accounts.
I think the point you are missing here is that this is not really a Mail problem and more likely a problem with your mail service provider or your attachments.
You started off implying that Mail is bad because it doesn't do this thing you want that you initially positioned as a standard, normal thing. (it's not)
Then when people explain that it's not really a normal thing you are asking it to do, and that Mail's response to your request is fairly typical in that regard, you make out like you knew all along that was the case. Sounds to me like you are just trolling.
If Mail is chocking on your gigantic attachments, then usually either one of two things are at fault:
- your ISP limits mail attachment size.
- you have a corrupt or otherwise crapped up attachment.
Both of these things are ultimately your responsibility, not Mail's.
If you had evidence of some other email program that allows you to send these attachments, what kind of attachments you are trying to send, or an indication of what size of attachments your email service allows, then you could start to build a case from that against Mail.
Given the information you have provided however, it seems like you are just dissing Mail for something it was never intended to do and that you already knew it couldn't do.
i.e. - Trolling.