the menus on the menu-bars, they are too opaque in my opinon I am running leopard on my work mac pro.
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Mac OS X Leopard Reviews: NY Times, Wall Street Journal, USA Today
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the menus on the menu-bars, they are too opaque in my opinon I am running leopard on my work mac pro.
that article is saying Archive and Install will mess u up for pro apps. Doing the OS upgrade is your best bet unless you just want to reinstall from original DVDs.
Am about to read Goatberg's review, but can someone please tell me since when does a copy, paste and re-edit of Leopards' feature blurb, with a few comments thrown in, equal a "review". Baig's article is incredibly shallow. And they gave him an iMac for a week to test it... 
10.5 is snappier than tiger on my Work mac pro and you will really notice a huge difference when you are running lots of apps and tying up the ram. 10.5 is faster and I suspect lots of things under the hood were optimized.
Vista wasn't a disaster, despite what a very small minority of vocal bloggers would like you to believe.
To add: I have always done an upgrade, and I would say roughly 90% of people do upgrades as well (pulled this number out of my head). I don't think you will have any problems with just upgrading. I always recommend copying your users folder for back up though! Personally, it is just too much of a hassle to erase and install unless you are having problems with your system.
Parallels works fine also, I have two virtual XP full screen desktops one of them is connected to an airgapped network and I used nic 2 for it. Its real cool to crtl-arrow. people get a kick out of watching me operate using 6 spaces and a **** load of OS X,unix apps and two virtuals Oh and terminal got a nice overhaul I love the enhancements and I kicked iTerm to the curb.
I abused leopard and its pretty tight for a beta. So I suspect it will be a reliable product for end users.
people get a kick out of watching me operate using 6 spaces and a **** load of OS X,unix apps and two virtuals Oh and terminal got a nice overhaul I love the enhancements and I kicked iTerm to the curb.I abused leopard and its pretty tight for a beta. So I suspect it will be a reliable product for end users.
Ill be upgrading then...... instead of archive and installing.... mainly because I will not have too much time to mess around with that stuff
the system is only 4 months old... but i have a lot on here.... so i dont see what the harm would do to just upgrade...i do not have any issues with the OS right now... ill just back up everything first just in case and just upgrade.....
I would hate for anyone to Archive and Install Leopard thinking that it is the best way for their apps to work. It is the worst way. The most reliable way for your old apps to work with Leopard is to reinstall but upgrading the OS would work just as well most of the time in my experience. Pro apps would be a big hassle to get working unless you know all of the systems and library folders used by the app and drag them over manually. If you look at the install size of Final Cut Pro and total up the size of the apps in the applications folder you'll notice about 90% of install size not accounted for. It's in the supporting folders in library and system. I didn't upgrade to Leopard seed on a machine with Final Cut Pro but I did on machines with iLife 08 and upgrade worked fine.
why doesn't Apple just build more options for customizing the appearance? why can't they add a slider bar to adjust the opacity of the menubar/menus? why can't they add options to let people choose between the aqua look vs the gray look they are going with now?
I might be missing something, but it seems like there would be more built in flexibility for customizing the look of the GUI.
This is the only real beef I have with OSX, and even then it's not a significant one.
I might be missing something, but it seems like there would be more built in flexibility for customizing the look of the GUI.
This is the only real beef I have with OSX, and even then it's not a significant one.
I completely agree. While, I don't think they should go all out with complete skins and adjustments, some flexibility would be nice. Your examples are perfect (include a dock option as well for those not thrilled) and could be elegantly implemented within System Preferences.
LOL - 'vocal bloggers'. Err, how about mainstream press?
- microsoft having to extend the life of XP
- PC stores reporting lower than expected profits - due to low take up of Vista
- software not working
- hardware not working / drivers not ready for Vista release
- PC sellers / manufacturers asked to ship XP instead of Vista
- Consumer associations boycotting Vista
Stories:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,134962-pg,1/article.html
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/10/18/dsg_vista_profits_down/
http://www.news.com/Microsoft-extends-Windows-XPs-stay/2100-1016_3-6210524.html
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/47939
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=543
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/10/13/dutch_consumer_association_declares_war/
Thats just less than 5 minutes searching. Hardly small vocal bloggers. There are articles from mainstream newspapers too ( fact, not opinion ).
Vista has hardly been a roaring success....
David Pogue is an incredibly tough reviewer, but a good one nonetheless. The guy from The Wall Street journal writes, and his video sounds, like a snoozefest. As for the guy from the USA Today, he would definitely be someone that would visit these forums.
I look forward to using Leopard every day and miss all sorts of things when I return to a Tiger machine. I use Leopard 527 and am excited to get the retail release. Leopard is a pleasure to use.
I use Vista everyday and don't look forward to it. In fact, I kind of dread it because of applications crashing, the frequent user overrides for install warnings, and various odd behaviors. I don't really see any advantage of Vista over XP and will probably just reinstall XP unless things improve. I do hope that Direct X 10 games will be amazing enough to justify Vista.
I am probably not the only one with that experience. I don't know if that makes it a disaster but it's at least a disappointment for some.
David Pogue's Comment Seems To Be Based On An Optional Interface Transparancy
Isn't the transparency David complains about an option we can turn off or adjust?
Isn't the transparency David complains about an option we can turn off or adjust?
Users of Parallel might want to re-install
Using the Leopard betas and doing a system upgrade I had problems with getting Parallels 3.0 to run. VMware Fusion upgraded fine but not Parallels.
However Parallels works fine under Leopard with a re-install from original disks.
In my opinion, if you use a lot of different Pro apps you might as well carbon copy clone your entire drive, Erase and Install Leopard, use migration assistant to move over doc files, itunes files, etc. and re-install all pro apps. Besides it is the perfect time to do house cleaning and re-organizing file systems for Leopard.
Using the Leopard betas and doing a system upgrade I had problems with getting Parallels 3.0 to run. VMware Fusion upgraded fine but not Parallels.
However Parallels works fine under Leopard with a re-install from original disks.
In my opinion, if you use a lot of different Pro apps you might as well carbon copy clone your entire drive, Erase and Install Leopard, use migration assistant to move over doc files, itunes files, etc. and re-install all pro apps. Besides it is the perfect time to do house cleaning and re-organizing file systems for Leopard.
Isn't the transparency David complains about an option we can turn off or adjust?
not without 3rd party software. It is not a preferences option.
I suggest as soon as everyone gets leopard, we organize a mass e-mailing to apple for ability to slightly customize transparency, aqua scroll bars to iTunes scroll bars, and dock away from 3D features. This can all be done at apple.com/feeback.
I don't see anything wrong with those things, in fact I love the way apple did them so far, but I enjoy choice! Now who's with me??? Chaaaarge
I don't see anything wrong with those things, in fact I love the way apple did them so far, but I enjoy choice! Now who's with me??? Chaaaarge
The Menubar is Unbearable but fixable!
The menubar is absolutely unbearable, but you can fix it by editing your desktop pics and putting a white stripe at the top. It took me less than 5 minutes, but I don't change my desktop image often.
I also ran into some issues with an applescript I use to maximize finder windows. It used to work fine, but now it expands the windows behind the menubar. I guess it makes sense if you now consider the desktop covers the entire screen and the menubar is just an overlay. I think before the entire desktop only extended to the menubar. I'm not sure what the implications of that are for developers.
The menubar is absolutely unbearable, but you can fix it by editing your desktop pics and putting a white stripe at the top. It took me less than 5 minutes, but I don't change my desktop image often.
I also ran into some issues with an applescript I use to maximize finder windows. It used to work fine, but now it expands the windows behind the menubar. I guess it makes sense if you now consider the desktop covers the entire screen and the menubar is just an overlay. I think before the entire desktop only extended to the menubar. I'm not sure what the implications of that are for developers.
Hold your horses...
If people don't like the transparent windows, Apple will just put a slider in the systems settings preference pane to adjust the amount of transparency from opaque to transparent.
That's just the "listen to your customer", take charge kind of company that Steve Jobs has been running in the past few years. Why do you think they commandeered another 4% market share from windows.
Sure Bill Gates didn't mind Apple having a 4% market share. But when they doubled it recently to 8.1% you can bet that a few eyebrows went up in Redmond. The next 4% (for a total of 12.1%) will REALLY hurt Microsoft, because the "what if" stories will be starting. With Vista sucking wind I can't wait to install my Leopard
Sorry Bill, this round goes to Apple, with a Leopard win. Better luck next time in 2010 with that Windows 7 thing. Maybe instead of Vista you could call it, "Rest Area", where people could take a break from the "Social" and the "Wow" that seems to have started and not really gone anywhere.
If people don't like the transparent windows, Apple will just put a slider in the systems settings preference pane to adjust the amount of transparency from opaque to transparent.
That's just the "listen to your customer", take charge kind of company that Steve Jobs has been running in the past few years. Why do you think they commandeered another 4% market share from windows.
Sure Bill Gates didn't mind Apple having a 4% market share. But when they doubled it recently to 8.1% you can bet that a few eyebrows went up in Redmond. The next 4% (for a total of 12.1%) will REALLY hurt Microsoft, because the "what if" stories will be starting. With Vista sucking wind I can't wait to install my Leopard
Sorry Bill, this round goes to Apple, with a Leopard win. Better luck next time in 2010 with that Windows 7 thing. Maybe instead of Vista you could call it, "Rest Area", where people could take a break from the "Social" and the "Wow" that seems to have started and not really gone anywhere.