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Mac OS X Lion Set for Summer 2011 Debut, Mac App Store to Launch Within 90 Days

Wow, what they showed off today in Lion is a clear stepping stone towards full multitouch computing. I mean, it looked silly using a mouse on that OS it was just begging to be Touched!! Either this version or the next will incorporate it, but either way its so nice to see a significant departure from the traditional windows & mouse interface that we've been suck with for almost 30 years!!!

You can look at all of the stuff they showed off today with Lion and take it that one little step farther and see Apple's vision for a full multitouch and gesture based OS - and it looks nice!
 
Hey, stupid observation time...

Why are they even trying to sell the idea that the app store is part of the 10.7 upgrade when it's not actually part of the 10.7 upgrade?

"We thought it'd be great if this 10.7 feature was available before the OS came out."

Well that means it's not a 10.7 feature... doesn't it?
 
I hope I don't have to jailbreak my Macbook to use some apps that's not "approved" by Apple.
 
I was impressed with some of the features they covered on Lion, but obviously it wasn't mind blowing stuff :p. I'm expecting a new UI, which I'm pretty sure there will be
 
I was thinking about the jailbreaking on macs, that would be awesome :p
 
roland.g said:
Will Devs start charging more for Apps you bought from them b/c of the 30% take?
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Not necessarily, because being in the app store can reduce some costs for marketing, transactions (credit card management), and doesn't require the developer to purchase and maintain servers and bandwidth.

What I'm curious about is, will apps downloaded from the app store be DRM-ed (locked), maybe even at the system level with OS X 10.7? A lot of folks won't like that, however it would free developers from having to worry about piracy, many of them spend a huge amount of resources trying to invent copy protection schemes, which rarely work and inconvenience users.
 
J Radical said:
On balance, I think they got it mostly right. Launch Pad looks useful, and I think integrating exposé and spaces in 'mission control' is an important simplification and a step forward for usability.

Having said that, I'm not still not keen on the magic mouse, which seems to be what a lot of this stuff hinges on. New Airbooks look nice, but I don't think I can swallow the combination of slow and expensive.
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I agree, this launch pad feature looks pretty slick and even attracts me more then the stacks in Leopard did... I used spaces for a little while but it confused me more than it actually helped me out organizing my workflow and desktop. Mission control certainly looks a lot more promising than Spaces in this regard.

Although I keep on wondering after seeing this 3D desktop environment demo from Sun a couple of years ago how Apple could turn this into a really practical and well executed solution (Using the back of windows etc... to display information and more, much like cover flow albums work)
Weren't they looking for a software engineer for a never been done/seen killer feature? This is Apple, there's always more than one more thing...
 
armoguy94 said:
While the App store may give Apple profit from leeching off developer's apps, no other operating system has that.
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Wrong. When you buy a Windows program from Best Buy some of that money goes to Best Buy, some goes to the people who made the CD and boxed it, and some goes to the trucking company that delivered it.

None of those things are free.
 
mdntcallr said:
Let the continuation for Apple Monopolization continue.

More and More Apple wants to own each and every sector of the consumer experience. Much like Verizon wants its own app and ringtone store. apple does the same now.

Can't say i am happy about it, Apple exercises extreme censorship and control over anything sold via itunes. and the new upcoming Mac "App" store for software doesn't seem any different.

Steve neglected to say if any software bought elsewhere would NOT run on mac's. ie what if i buy Microsoft office from Amazon on a DVD. Will that work? definitely making it hard to do that on the Air's. No included optical drive.

ok, then lets go the extra mile for digital download stores on software. will the apple allow and authorize third party DRM controlled software be installed? hey i am starting to get worried about the consumer experience.

It used to be that computers and phones are all a user controlled world where you add the programs and software you want. no issues. from ANYWHERE. now Apple is making it harder to install software on iphone/ipad from any third source. you have to break open your software with potential unreliable jailbreak software. and i really dont want to do that.

is this the sort of thing we have to have in store for the future????

Personally.... i am starting to vibe that a Windows based computer may start looking a bit more.... open and less monopolistic than apple.

Crazy thoughts huh?
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Yes.Very!
And you have a unique definition of"extreme censorship"
 
There wasn't much that I saw that impressed me... I'm waiting for next year when more features are announced.... Right now though I just don't care about a modern version of the Launcher.
 
Full-screen will be great as long as windows stay intact, and full screen is only by choice. I think the new Expose (Mission Control?) looks ok.

I hate the app launcher with iOS folders, but I use Quicksilver all the time so this won't get used.

I think the Mac app store was inevitable, and is quite a good idea. I can't help but wonder how they will police it to get their 30% though. I can imagine developers selling their apps in the mac app store for £100, and on websites for £85 for example, to give a saving to the user, and make an extra £15.

I am looking for some cloud innovation, and an improved interface. So far it looks like increasing ease-of-use for novice users.
 
Will it still have the annoying font spacing issue on the Help menu? Where will the maximize, minimize buttons be located this time? How many different interface styles will be cobbled into this one? :rolleyes:
 
Winni said:
So... Quite obviously, Mr Jobs lied when he said a couple of months ago that there wouldn't be an AppStore for the Mac.

Et voilá, there it is. Of course, only optional. At least for Snow Leopard. And maybe even still in the release version of Lion. After that? I wouldn't be surprised if it became the only option to get software for the Mac when 10.8 surfaces.

It's comforting that Linux and Windows run so well on my Apple hardware. Something tells me that I won't stay in Jobs's Brave New 1984 World for very much longer.
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How does it feel to live in such baseless fear? Do you wake up in a cold sweat every night?

And he never said there would never be an App Store. He said they would never lock down OS X to an App Store.
 
All in all some interesting features. I'm actually looking forward to the app store as long as they NEVER make it mandatory. It will be a godsend for smaller app developers who are constantly struggling for exposure on their apps and also provide a baseline of quality control as well. Launchpad of course seems eerily familiar... But looks to be a well executed dock replacement (as long as they don't get rid of command-tab). And full screen looks nice, though many apps already have full-screen modes. Hopefully there will be some other killer technical features that weren't mentioned today that will make it worth the upgrade.
 
btw...MacApp Store...

i have not bought CD/DVD based software for two years, you can bet your fanny that apple will make sure anything and everything will be available for their hardware - this is where the technology is heading, does everyone always forget to look to the future whenever apple develops new technologies???:confused:
 
iLog.Genius said:
Not liking the new Expose, specifically the grouping of similar windows. With grouping, it now requires an additional action to get a windows that you want.
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I may be mistaken, but I think Mission Control was just a new view. You can still view expose the normal way.

Launchpad=Launcher from early Mac OS. What's the point? Requires a lot of clicks/swipes to get to your apps. Just use the Dock+Spotlight. It's like they were struggling to figure out what to put in the new OS, decided the Springboard would be a breeze to bring over, and did it without questioning why anyone would want it.

Nothing I was hoping to see was shown. No new Finder features, no Mobile Me inspired Mail or iCal, no word on Filesystem or graphics improvements, and no banishment of Aqua.

Honestly, I was more exited about Snow Leopard...
 
There not going to even bother deriding Microsoft when this comes out. It's obvious that this is a stopgap in the evolution (devolution) of OS X into iOS. In Apple's mind the PC/Laptop concept is dead. :(
 
mdntcallr said:
Let the continuation for Apple Monopolization continue.

More and More Apple wants to own each and every sector of the consumer experience. Much like Verizon wants its own app and ringtone store. apple does the same now.

Can't say i am happy about it, Apple exercises extreme censorship and control over anything sold via itunes. and the new upcoming Mac "App" store for software doesn't seem any different.

Steve neglected to say if any software bought elsewhere would NOT run on mac's. ie what if i buy Microsoft office from Amazon on a DVD. Will that work? definitely making it hard to do that on the Air's. No included optical drive.

ok, then lets go the extra mile for digital download stores on software. will the apple allow and authorize third party DRM controlled software be installed? hey i am starting to get worried about the consumer experience.

It used to be that computers and phones are all a user controlled world where you add the programs and software you want. no issues. from ANYWHERE. now Apple is making it harder to install software on iphone/ipad from any third source. you have to break open your software with potential unreliable jailbreak software. and i really dont want to do that.

is this the sort of thing we have to have in store for the future????

Personally.... i am starting to vibe that a Windows based computer may start looking a bit more.... open and less monopolistic than apple.

Crazy thoughts huh?
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First off, all traditional applications can still be installed in the same way . no one's forcing you or a dev to use the app store. The idea is Dev's will be willing to give Apple that 30% in return for greater downloads it will see in the App store, on every new Mac, vs on some obscure website. Also Dev's won't have to worry about managing a server for App downloads. The Air can install apps from a DVD or CD via either a USB drive, or wirelessly from a networked PC or Mac.

Sure Windows definitely has less restrictions vs Mac OS X, but think of it as having sex bareback vs using a condom. Sure bareback will feel great and natural for a few weeks, maybe even months at a time if you're lucky. But eventually you'll catch something nasty, have to get yourself cleaned up, and start over. :D
Another way this metaphor works is consider Mac vs Windows families. The Mac family exercises Birth control to maintain a sustainable enjoyable family with 1-3 children. The Windows family risks it, and eventually ends up spreading resources between their 7 kids, getting slowed down by all those plays you've got to go to.
 
darbus69 said:
i never have missed flash...
iOS and its devices have simplified my digital life from day one...
iDont think you belong in theses forums...
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Seriously? Because he isn't 100% in love with every new potential feature announced today?

What do you think these forums are for?
 
I didn't see any interface changes. I know it is early in the announcement, but will they implementing an cosmetic changes aka "Marble"

I haven't seen the stream, so I might be wrong.
 
chirpie said:
Why are they even trying to sell the idea that the app store is part of the 10.7 upgrade when it's not actually part of the 10.7 upgrade?

"We thought it'd be great if this 10.7 feature was available before the OS came out."
?
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Because it played in well with the narrative of iOS features migrating to Mac OS.
 
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