Ha! Easy to say that now...
I'm just curious what would people have said if they dared to delete one of the two. Moreover, we don't know if they will have a setting to choose between the two or have them both in the final release.
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Ha! Easy to say that now...
I'm just curious what would people have said if they dared to delete one of the two. Moreover, we don't know if they will have a setting to choose between the two or have them both in the final release.
Even the very first FairPlay DRM music downloads worked on multiple registered computers. I wouldn't read too much into those comments. I imagine there will be FairPlay DRM on all downloads.
Operating System changes???
Isn't this supposed to be an operating system upgrade? Operating systems are those things that sit between the user and the metal. So where are the major improvements there? Things like OpenCL, Grand Central Dispatch, moving from 32 to 64 bit architectures, those things that fundamentally change the underpinnings of the system to make it better/faster for the user by providing the developers with better tools. Where's that sort of stuff? All I see here is some app improvements.
Isn't this supposed to be an operating system upgrade? Operating systems are those things that sit between the user and the metal. So where are the major improvements there? Things like OpenCL, Grand Central Dispatch, moving from 32 to 64 bit architectures, those things that fundamentally change the underpinnings of the system to make it better/faster for the user by providing the developers with better tools. Where's that sort of stuff? All I see here is some app improvements.
Don't be naive. Facetime is a product with exponential network externalities. It would make very little business sense to restrict on any other basis than technical.
We've been promised TOP SECRET features in the past. That's not how software works. I imagine they haven't got too much more planned.
Here comes iAds on Mac OSX. It will be in the free apps on the App store, and some of the cheaper ones.
It will be too hard for Apple to resist.
Meanwhile, what happened to Open CL? Any Open GL 3 features so Cinema 4d v12 will see increased performance?
It will be too hard for Apple to resist.
Meanwhile, what happened to Open CL? Any Open GL 3 features so Cinema 4d v12 will see increased performance?
These are the 'shock and awe' features of 10.7. Why else would they hold a keynote now? That's what really worries me.
These features are not even worth $25 dollars. They are a service pack. How much of snow leopard’s amazing over-hyped under the hood features are you benefitting from? ... thought so.
Remmember how we all thought 10.6 was really just setting the stage for the big things to come in 10.7? No...10.6 was some crap they had left over that they passed off as a new version.. they are doing the same with 10.7
Disagree on launchpad and mission control. I hate the name of mission control, but love the usefulness of it. As far as launchpad-i know a few people who refuse to buy a mac because of that. They don't like having to look in the applications folder. Launchpad will be a HUGE point for the Mac, I believe.
I hate to say it, but I told you so... I correctly predicted that the Mac App Store, if such a thing was to be made, would NOT be the only way to distribute Mac software. That said... I share many of the concerns voiced in these comments. I also have to wonder what else Apple will unveil regarding Mac OS X "Lion" later.
Mind you, my current Mac came with Leopard, and it feels... how shall I say this... not up to speed with Snow Leopard installed on it. So, I'm going to get a new one that comes with Lion preinstalled. (Yay, more revenue for Apple.) The question now is one of timing, namely, given Apple's roadmap for Mac OS X and Intel's roadmap for processors, which conjunction makes the most sense to jump on? I'm honestly not sure. Sandy Bridge looks awfully tempting, but the built-in video encoding support is limited to VC-1, cutting off Mac and other non-Windows OSes from benefiting. So then, looking beyond Sandy Bridge, the picture gets a lot murkier. Next up is Ivy Bridge, then Haswell, then Rockwell... I'm currently leaning towards either Ivy Bridge or Haswell. Rockwell, as nice as it looks, is just too far out to wait for.
Mind you, my current Mac came with Leopard, and it feels... how shall I say this... not up to speed with Snow Leopard installed on it. So, I'm going to get a new one that comes with Lion preinstalled. (Yay, more revenue for Apple.) The question now is one of timing, namely, given Apple's roadmap for Mac OS X and Intel's roadmap for processors, which conjunction makes the most sense to jump on? I'm honestly not sure. Sandy Bridge looks awfully tempting, but the built-in video encoding support is limited to VC-1, cutting off Mac and other non-Windows OSes from benefiting. So then, looking beyond Sandy Bridge, the picture gets a lot murkier. Next up is Ivy Bridge, then Haswell, then Rockwell... I'm currently leaning towards either Ivy Bridge or Haswell. Rockwell, as nice as it looks, is just too far out to wait for.
What do you mean, what happened?
Apple is prepping to make OpenGL 3.x system-wide.
Linux Desktop Environments are at OpenGL 1.4. [Don't confuse having an OpenGL 4.1 driver with your Desktop Environment being OpenGL accelerated at 4.1]
OpenCL 1.1 system-wide is being extended throughout the system.
Third Party developers have to adapt their applications for distributed parallel programming to leverage it.
On and on and on.
Software via AppStore [vs] ???
So, I'm thinking about the USB stick software reinstall, nifty. . . Who does it leave out? Software box vendors. The future of Apple is AppStore. The loser is any vendor who lives to sell boxed software. Amazon, WalMart, BestBuy, Egghead, etc. That revenue (30%) goes to Cupertino. That means it doesn't go to them!
The versioning, mentioned previously, should be easier to manage. The idea that a family could purchase a new iMac and instantly download the latest family versions of all the apps, is a great feature.
As a developer, I don't worry about packaging, exposure, marketing (so much) and support gets easier as it is only one place to put updates. The quicker apps to market, the faster it goes to 'making popcorn'
So, I'm thinking about the USB stick software reinstall, nifty. . . Who does it leave out? Software box vendors. The future of Apple is AppStore. The loser is any vendor who lives to sell boxed software. Amazon, WalMart, BestBuy, Egghead, etc. That revenue (30%) goes to Cupertino.
That means it doesn't go to them!The versioning, mentioned previously, should be easier to manage. The idea that a family could purchase a new iMac and instantly download the latest family versions of all the apps, is a great feature.
As a developer, I don't worry about packaging, exposure, marketing (so much) and support gets easier as it is only one place to put updates. The quicker apps to market, the faster it goes to 'making popcorn'
I couldnt agree more, seems like all they have been focusing on has been the ipad and the iphone and the iOS...but after over a year, they have come up with only a couple of features that are good but come on...Windows 7 had **** load of useful features compared to Vista...
This was really disappointing..I guess apple is more interested in the ipad than the mac...as a medical student, I need more functionality that are essential, more compatibility, softwares that microsoft has but mac doesnt such as onenote
Macs are becoming toys
You mean all the stuff that was Snow Leopard?
Well I did say like. Where do you think I got my list from?
I don't know what new things might be done for Lion, that's why I need Apple to tell me! I am certainly disappoint
They really need to rearchitect the OS itself.
- cloud storage (web, ZFS, etc..)
- database filesystem (the iPhoto/Aperture/iTunes sharing of data is a clunky example of that, but shows what database filesystems can do)
- threading everywhere
- resolution independence (GPU-based display)
much of the fundamental design needs to be addressed, and they had years to really work on it..
They really need to rearchitect the OS itself.
- cloud storage (web, ZFS, etc..)
- database filesystem (the iPhoto/Aperture/iTunes sharing of data is a clunky example of that, but shows what database filesystems can do)
- threading everywhere
- resolution independence (GPU-based display)
much of the fundamental design needs to be addressed, and they had years to really work on it..
Weird, I thought Launchpad was the best innovation. Dock isn't fast enough. It's way too crowded. I put applications in dock as a folder and go to applications from there, from grid view. Much faster than going through dock. But Launchpad will be even faster, even couple miliseconds faster still is better. Application locating is the one task which still takes the most time on OS X.
I don't get this.
First. The Keynote was not specifically about Lion. That is mainly what everyone interpreted what the keynote would be about based on the pic and the "Back to the Mac" slogan.
In reality, you could interpret the Lion barley peaking out of the Apple Logo as a "Sneak Peak" at Lion. This is what you got. I think it was more to lay the foundation as to where they are going. Also, to put minds at ease that Apple has not forgotten about the Mac platform after the running success of the iOS devices. This was readily apparent at the multiple remarks about how valuable the Mac market is for them and also how significant a company they would still be if all they were selling were mac products.
The Keynote was dominated about iLife 11. You could interpret this as "Back to the Mac" as well since it was a keynote about Mac software. people have been speculating and look for an update for over a year. so this was good news. The feature set looks really cool as well.
They then introduced the macbook air, still showing that they are innovating hardware for the mac platform.
Most have said, prior to the Keynote, that summer would be around the time frame for Lion. It wouldn't be delivered prior to WWDC. Why would Apple want to give Microsoft or Goolgle for that matter any kind of indication of a new GUI, other features etc so that they can rush to institute these into their OS before Apple? I think by now you know Apple better than that.
You do realize that ZFS is a no-go at the moment?
Resolution independence is partially already available, have been since Tiger.
Threading everywhere? Like on calculator for example where a single thread is a hundred times more than what you need?
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I've always thought that eventually the Track pad on laptops would become a screen, I just didnt know what it could display. Now I know, launch pad/mission control. It may take a few years, but launch pad would be totally awesome if it popped up on the track pad and you tapped the app you want.
I've always thought that eventually the Track pad on laptops would become a screen, I just didnt know what it could display. Now I know, launch pad/mission control. It may take a few years, but launch pad would be totally awesome if it popped up on the track pad and you tapped the app you want.
I agree , people love complaining about products that are not even close to being released , hopefully Apple has something more in store ....
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Jobs said there'd be no review process. As of yet, there's no reason to think you know if apple is going to review apps in the store. It's only a walled garden if they do. Otherwise it's just a handyvway to find software.
Jobs said there'd be no review process. As of yet, there's no reason to think you know if apple is going to review apps in the store. It's only a walled garden if they do. Otherwise it's just a handyvway to find software.
In any case, it's mearly a form of competition. And competition is always better for the consumer than the developer. Sorry!
On an unrelated note, OS X's spell checker informs me that "mearly" is spelt wrong. How the hell do you spell the word I'm thinking of here??
"Merely"? (N.B., not a native speaker here)