Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
The reason the os is the way it is, is because of these things that are needed to run an office (which is needed to run a business and make money to buy food and shelter).

Ah, so the only way you can run your computer and make money with it (and thus get food and shelter, ensuring your ultimate survival) is if it replicates your old paper-based system in an electronic format??? :confused:
 
awesome

wanting to replace the lame aqua scroll bar with sexy ios scroll bar :p

other than that, im open to lion
 
The majority of posts in this thread give me a freakin brain ache. Do people NOT pay attention to ANYTHING anymore? Or do they just like to complain about every possible thing for the sake of complaining?

There is NO and I mean NOT ONE SINGLE SHRED of evidence that Apple will lock down Macintosh OS X! We have the App Store now, I just went to Microsoft and downloaded a trial of Office 2011. Um, derp?

As for the UI overhaul. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Switch to something else or keep Leopard/Snow Leopard. I know plenty of people still using Tiger because they like how spotlight works compared to Leopard/Snow Leopard. But please! Don't complain and speculate the bad before we even SEE anything!

I think I need a nap and some pain pills -_-
 
More customization of the interface, colors, etc would be very nice. The gray frames on everything is kind of dull. Let me make my personal computer "personal" please.
 
+1

I really don't like the path Apple is on, as a whole. They are moving to such a restricted and locked down environment and I think its only a matter of time before the same holds true for Mac OS. The Mac App Store is just the beginning and is really their trojan horse into turning Mac OS into a more controlled OS.

I'm at a crossroads with buying a new laptop and I was set on the new MacBook Pro but then I saw the new Dell XPS and I'm really wondering which direction I want to go in. And this is from a long-time Mac user.
I have the same feeling...been a pretty dedicated Mac user for over ten years, starting with OS X 10.0.4, but I'm not sure my next machine will be a Mac anymore.

When OS X was light-years ahead of Windows, it was completely worth the price premium for the machines. I still think SL is better than Windows 7, but I'm not sure it's better enough to continue justifying the hardware costs compared to any other company's machines. As the platform starts heading in a low-tech, locked-down, iPhone-esque direction, I'm not even sure the platform will still be 'better' for my usage needs anymore anyway.

I'll see what they have with Lion, but if they expect to keep more advanced users they need to convince us we aren't losing the platform to the iPhone model...and re-convince us that the platform is better enough to justify the hardware costs in the face of a resurgent Microsoft.
 
I bet it's gonna look more and more like iOS with each single release.

Also, can't wait to install 10.7b1 on my primary machine. Yippee!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Apple is on record as saying that OS X features have migrated into iOS and that things were going to come full circle with iOS features/tech migrating into OS X so it should be no surprise that they are actually going to do what they said they were going to do.
 
Wish List -
[1] let us choose our own wallpaper for login screen :D

Workaround (if you don't know it and for others):

[1] Navigate in Finder to /Macintosh HD/System/Library/CoreServices/
[2] Backup DefaultDesktop.jpg to another location
[3] Replace the file with the image of your choosing, although make sure it is also named DefaultDesktop.jpg.
[4] You will be asked to authenticate to make changes, enter your password.
[5] Log Out.
 
Last edited:
Could the new UI include true resolution independence? Dare to dream.

Gee, last time we saw that was in a Leopard beta. Dare to dream is right.

What should have but never became:

- R.I.
- Native 64-bit apps like iLife '11
- ZFS, when it was an option, HFS is running low on fuel
- A unified Finder
- OpenGL 3.0+ support
- An affordable mid-tower between the iMac and Mac Pro
- A dedicated Cinema Display line with cords long enough for desktops and more than one display
- Light Peak/Thunderbolt in the Mac Pro
- Blu-Ray!? lol
 
it looks like the ichat icon is gone and in its place is the facetime icon.

I wonder if facetime is the new ichat.

That would be awesome is have jabber on an iphone or ipad along with mbp and imacs.....

I hope this will come true with lion.
 
I think Apple gave away a hint of new UI with their website refresh to a dark glassy look.
 
what is the probability of full Open GL 4.0 support?

Probability is "probably not" as that would be a real improvement instead of just another step towards merging iOS with OSX (or more like convert OSX into iOS-likeness).

Heck, I'd consider it a huge improvement if they would simply just fix the dual-screen display issues OSX has. For example, they should offer the ability to turn off the 2nd display from the settings drop-down menu (there is currently no way to turn it off short of unplugging it; "mirror" doesn't help if the 2nd display isn't the same resolution as the original).

Likewise, they should offer a menu-bar for the other monitor displays (having to move the mouse back to the primary display just to activate a menu option is beyond annoying). The option to have a "dock" (even a different one perhaps) on each display would be nice as well, although not as important as a menu-bar (here Windows has an advantage because the menu-bars have traditionally been on each window there instead of the top of the screen).

How many years have gone by without a single one of these SIMPLE options/fixes for dual-display that make the Mac inferior to the Windows PC for multiple monitor setups? Will they make even one of those changes in Lion? I sincerely doubt it.
 
More like 50%. ;)

I think pro software margins are healthy enough to support the shift from one retail middle-man (Amazon, Best Buy, NewEgg, etc.) to another (Apple).

That is incorrect because I am in the field of 3D art and have met several key company officials at their art class events. I know they have said when talking about their platforms they already do not like Apple and consider them to have so few users in our field that it is not a viable market for them.

Most of the companies I mention ONLY sell direct anyway. Adobe is a big player and may be able to still support the Mac, but no way is someone like Autodesk, Maxon, E-Onsoftware, etc. going to continue to do so if they keep moving in the direction Apple is heading.

Like I said, most Mac users do not use them in the same way that REALLY high-end content creators do. It is a main stream computer for the masses and they are making them even more so which is bad news for those of us needing not just trucks but the BIGGEST truck possible.
 
The majority of posts in this thread give me a freakin brain ache. Do people NOT pay attention to ANYTHING anymore? Or do they just like to complain about every possible thing for the sake of complaining?

Yes they don't and yes they do like complaining.
Yes both of things still surprise me. I always thought the point of a rumors site was to fuel optimism, yet the loudest people here are the pessimistic ones. The trick to me is to try and filter out the genuine gripes, as they can give really good clues as to whats coming next especially from a company like Apple* who try to remove as many of these frustration as they can to lets us get on with adding our own beautiful value adding complexity.

Suggesting Apple will lock down OS X is like suggesting Lego will stop making red bricks.

As for the UI overhaul I say bring it on, trusting that Apple will test everything keep what works and tweak or renovate the stuff that doesn't. Also adds wait to Resolution Independence after all if you need to redo all touch all the graphics and turn them into vectors you might as well consider how suitable they are to the job these days.

And if we don't like it we won't buy it.

*This a double edge sword on one hand they get called a Toy company because the power is they but not in your face, on the other hand it means the the frustrations really do stick out and feel like road blocks
 
That is incorrect because I am in the field of 3D art and have met several key company officials at their art class events. I know they have said when talking about their platforms they already do not like Apple and consider them to have so few users in our field that it is not a viable market for them.

Most of the companies I mention ONLY sell direct anyway. Adobe is a big player and may be able to still support the Mac, but no way is someone like Autodesk, Maxon, E-Onsoftware, etc. going to continue to do so if they keep moving in the direction Apple is heading.

Like I said, most Mac users do not use them in the same way that REALLY high-end content creators do. It is a main stream computer for the masses and they are making them even more so which is bad news for those of us needing not just trucks but the BIGGEST truck possible.

Agreed. What a shame as AutoCAD just came out for OS X, and many professional software app's were restructured in the past three years for OS X. Now Apple has shifted focus on smaller, less powerful iOS driven systems, leaving us who need power, decent hardware, etc. with little options. Dropping XServe was the first step, and it could have been viable IF Apple focused on it. Apple has done something amazing: created a market and a demand for the average consumer in this market. Before the iPhone, the average consumer used RAZR's, Ericsons, Nokia's; then every soccermom and average Joe was hyped in '07 to own an iPhone. Apple marketed it as if it was going to cure cancer, they CHEERED those who waited days for it and walked out with the "greatest thing since sliced bread". What about OS X? Mac desktops? Oh, those developers were placed on iOS projects, and Foxconn has invested billions for machines specifically made to produce thousands of iPhones an hour. WOW.


Yes they don't and yes they do like complaining.
Yes both of things still surprise me. I always thought the point of a rumors site was to fuel optimism, yet the loudest people here are the pessimistic ones.

Those "people", us, rely on Apple systems, HAVE relied on Apple systems well before 2006, well before Jobs came back in 1997-8, and we do so for our work, for PRODUCING, not CONSUMING. We have invested thousands of dollars and hours in Apple systems for work, and now it seems apparent Apple has little interest in investing in us. So yes, I believe given the past four years and the roadmap Apple has set forth, there is little ahead for us professionals. It's difficult to use "Final Cut Pro", "Aperture" or Adobe products on iPhones and iPads, and in some cases iMacs. Since Apple went Intel, the affordable PowerMac was replaced by an over powered and expensive server grade Mac Pro. Then the dedicated displays were dropped, less OS X development in lei of iOS/iDevices, then XServe, and now Lion seems less promising. So yes, for US, we have the right to be weary. The masses have taken over a company we have used for a long time, and not to play "Angry Birds", but to earn a living.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
It's time. The desktop OS with its 25-year-old paper-based metaphors (folders, trash cans) is past due for a reinvention.
Why do you say that? I know I do not want applications storing my files where they want. I like folders because I can organize things the way I like them, and I can use smart folders to organize files any way I want.
 
More customization of the interface, colors, etc would be very nice. The gray frames on everything is kind of dull. Let me make my personal computer "personal" please.

I actually think, in a round about way, Apple will fulfill your wish - but not through allowing you to customise the UI colours - rather, by removing most of the UI from view, allowing your wallpaper/photo to shine.

Picture this:

Your desktop upon startup is merely a picture. A blank canvas. No menu. No Dock. Just your wallpaper in glorious full screen view.

Now, just as you can with your dock being hidden, your main top menu is hidden until you mouse over it, or are required to use it. If not in use, it slides or fades out of view.

I also imagine that the UI may adopt the charcoal translucent grey colour scheme that we have seen introduced over the past few years.

I'll mock it up and post it in here :)

Scottie
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.