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Gee, last time we saw that was in a Leopard beta. Dare to dream is right.

What should have but never became:

- R.I.
- Native 64-bit apps like iLife '11
- ZFS, when it was an option, HFS is running low on fuel
- A unified Finder
- OpenGL 3.0+ support
- An affordable mid-tower between the iMac and Mac Pro
- A dedicated Cinema Display line with cords long enough for desktops and more than one display
- Light Peak/Thunderbolt in the Mac Pro
- Blu-Ray!? lol

Q: What is the point if a mid-tower when Macs are not made for hardware customization?
 
Please don't tell me that there are going to be application icons all over the desktop....

Believe me, Apple are way smarter than that. :rolleyes:

So why does an application icon that already appears on the dock, get listed in the Launchpad grid again?

Shouldn't it work like this: (excuse the horrible Preview.app work)

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Just like on iOS?!
 
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In regard to the UI changes, I can't wait to see those scrollbars go.

bring on the ios scrollbars, and transparent title bars please. that looks so 1994 on the macs.

I cant see M$ getting things wrong now with any future OSes on the Windows side.

quote of the century. wait til windows 8 breaks compatibility with tons of apps you'll realize all the legacy crap thats been in windows all those years
 
Q: What is the point if a mid-tower when Macs are not made for hardware customization?

Point: Mac Pro's are made for customization. A mid-tower would use a non-Server/Xeon based Intel Processor, but a faster chip than the current iMac's. It would allow for the same customization of graphics, optical and HDD's as a Mac Pro w/o costing a fortune. This was what the PowerMac used to be until Intel became the processor of choice for Apple.

Basically, a ~$1500-2500 tower depending on customization that would suite professionals very well without being an over-extended Server based Mac Pro.

This would leave two options for Mac consumers:

1. An all in one iMac that is not expandable/upgradable but would suite the needs of the average consumer
2. A mid-range tower that is customizable without Xeon processors (perhaps a smaller shell) and would allow professionals to utilize their own displays or Apple displays should they develop a full range professional display line
3. A Mac Pro for workstation, heavy hitters who need serious power where money isn't a factor

Many professionals have been begging Apple to produce 2.
 
You my friend have just 100% summed up what I was thinking...
I already uninstalled the Mac App store from my 2 Macs (I don't want Apple to cheat out developers out of their revenue).

I've purchased 5 Macs over the last 7-8 years, and I've already more or less concluded that my next compter won't be made by Apple... Like you, the math doesn't make much sense anymore, and if Apple turns the Mac into an idevice, it'll just make the value proposition that much worst.

Very very sad....

I have the same feeling...been a pretty dedicated Mac user for over ten years, starting with OS X 10.0.4, but I'm not sure my next machine will be a Mac anymore.

When OS X was light-years ahead of Windows, it was completely worth the price premium for the machines. I still think SL is better than Windows 7, but I'm not sure it's better enough to continue justifying the hardware costs compared to any other company's machines. As the platform starts heading in a low-tech, locked-down, iPhone-esque direction, I'm not even sure the platform will still be 'better' for my usage needs anymore anyway.

I'll see what they have with Lion, but if they expect to keep more advanced users they need to convince us we aren't losing the platform to the iPhone model...and re-convince us that the platform is better enough to justify the hardware costs in the face of a resurgent Microsoft.
 
So why does an application icon that already appears on the dock, get listed in the Launchpad grid again?

Shouldn't it work like this: (excuse the horrible Preview.app work)

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Just like on iOS?!

I rather have a launchpad then a folder or many folders full of apps.

Just the application folder to me is getting annoying but maybe is just me.
 
So why does an application icon that already appears on the dock, get listed in the Launchpad grid again?

Shouldn't it work like this: (excuse the horrible Preview.app work)

8e1fcba199e06c4ae46e9536fd5a8fe5.png


Just like on iOS?!

I can think of two reasons off the bat.
1) consistency of user experience. If you delete the active ones do the others way or stay in the same place?

2)Multiple App instances. I'm sure anyone else can a test to this big complex software always has bugs you manage to find at the worse possible time and mostly for some reason just after you've opened a file from a different project to do something quick while forgetting to save the mainline project. Bang crash both lots of work gone back to the last save/backup. Having an instance of say my CAD program for each project then problem solved, plus opens some really cool options for organising your work. Like Mission control would cluster the open files for each project together. I could sleep an app configured just for that project and come back to it at any time like I never left. Then I'd want page for Mission Control so each page would collect the all the app and files for that project.

Sorry getting carried away yes I realise multiple instance thing is well old but it's just always seemed more trouble than it's worth but with what we know of Lion I can know see it could really be of value.
 
Agreed. What a shame as AutoCAD just came out for OS X

Those "people", us, rely on Apple systems, HAVE relied on Apple systems well before 2006, well before Jobs came back in 1997-8, and we do so for our work, for PRODUCING, not CONSUMING.

I'm going to date myself by saying I had a "copy" of AutoCAD last time it was on the Mac. I wasn't a big fan then and still not convinced what all the hype was about the Mac has always had better options. I also had a license for a Mac based CAD program which suited me much better and had me productive in short amount of time. So Mac's have been a part of my productivity since 4xCD drives.

Also still also amused by this idea that iOS is just for consuming, Look at all the really cool stuff that is there already for the iPad. Every productive person I know keeps looking at that platform and wishing for that day it's tied in to there work horse to open up new productive options.
 
Point: Mac Pro's are made for customization.
No. They are most certainly not made for customization. They are work stations. You get the configuration for the job and you stick with it.

A mid-tower would use a non-Server/Xeon based Intel Processor, but a faster chip than the current iMac's. It would allow for the same customization of graphics, optical and HDD's as a Mac Pro w/o costing a fortune. This was what the PowerMac used to be until Intel became the processor of choice for Apple.
And sadly the market for that is nearly gone. There are consumers, iMac or Mac mini users, and professionals, Mac Pro users.

Basically, a ~$1500-2500 tower depending on customization that would suite professionals very well without being an over-extended Server based Mac Pro.
That would cut into Mac Pro sales.
 
<snip>That would cut into Mac Pro sales.

Not really, the gap is one of the reasons that Mac Pro sales are off so badly. Even amongst professionals (people using the Mac for the generation of income or as a work machine...however you want to call it), not everyone needs a full blown "work station" that costs $10K whether it is a Mac or a PC.

Even amongst professionals, the multi-core, multi-CPU machines are falling into disfavor because much of software being used simply does not make effective use of the hardware. It can be a little like driving a half million dollar Cobra in 30 mph city traffic and then complaining that it overheats and 'makes tea' (boils over).

I can tell you that photoshop web sites are moving away from recommending Mac Pros for the majority of (professional) photoshop users simply because of the mismatch of actual performance of available hardware configurations.

All this is on top of the Adobe's delays in bringing 64-bit Photoshop to the Mac Platform which caused quite a few defections to the PC Platform which are unlikely to come back, if at all, until their hardware is in need of replacement again.
 
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