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Mac OS X should be available for the PC platform

Eidorian said:
Once again another check box and I'm sure we'd all be willing to cough up more money. Dell charges $100 for the upgrade to the 8400M GS from the GMA X3100. Why can't Apple do that? :rolleyes:
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You would think they would..I sort of wish I knew more about business so I could understand why they don't do this, as it doesn't seem to me like this could really do any harm...But, then again, Dell does a lot of things that wouldn't be beneficial to Apple (such as selling cheap cheap cheap crappy computers and expensive crappy computers). I'm sure there's some reason that I don't understand why they don't do it.

Of course, that being said, it could just be because they [Apple] are a bunch of pricks and don't want us to have a better graphics card :p
 
Spec me a PC on Newegg that has the same specification and monitor that the iMac has and I'll be surprised if it will be the same price.
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Thats not hard. Looking at newegg I can build a computer that is the same as the base model imac but with a .2ghz faster processor since I couldnt find a 2.0ghz processor (I just used the search so I dont even know if I have the cheapest 2.2ghz processor) and it comes to around $800 after a dell 20" widescreen and the cost of Leopard are factored in (and keyboard/mouse too, I made sure to be fair and chose a nice keyboard instead of a $5 one, the mightymouse is garbage though so I didnt care much about the mouse). If I went with XP/Vista OEM and an e4300 Core 2 Duo to overclock it up to 2.7ghz+ then I would save probably another $100.

AMD is cheaper, generally more energy effective, and there is Athlonx2 64. Performance is that bad neither.
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They are cheaper but the cost:performance ratio isnt there like it is with the core 2 duos. Also they dont overclock as well, you could get a really cheap core 2 duo and overclock the hell out of it very easily giving you great value. AMD's quickly lose their value once you enter the price range of the cheapest core 2 duo. Theyre fine if you have less than $100 to spend on a processor, but once you spend $130 or more then Core 2 Duos are way better.
 
Cromulent said:
Ugh not again. Spec me a PC on Newegg that has the same specification and monitor that the iMac has and I'll be surprised if it will be the same price.
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it works both ways, most buyers set a expense and looking for acceptable computers, not the other way around.

A brand new laptop under $500-600, now matter how you look, you won't find it in apple's products line.
 
I tend to agree with the OP.

The iPod really took off when iTunes was made available for Windows - and from that came the 'iPod effect' where people, like me, then went on to buy a Mac.

I think the same could happen if a version of OSX (or the main apps, at least) were available for PC users.

Or are Apple actually quite happy making high quality computers but making much smaller sales?
 
joefinan said:
Or are Apple actually quite happy making high quality computers but making much smaller sales?
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This is actually pretty much exactly what it is. Obviously they want to make a higher profit, but, extra-marketing the Operating System would not make them make more money, it would make them lose money as the hardware is where most of their money comes from.
 
Cromulent said:
That does not make them overpriced. That just means Apple does not cater for the real low end users. That is a big difference.
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Its not only a low-end issue, limited/fixed models can't meet the needs of all people.
 
StateCCM said:
the system specifications for Macs are crap. their Motherboards are garbage and id prefer to use an AMD CPU rather than an intel. plus, Macs are waaaay too overpriced.

ive built an amazing rig on newegg for 1000$. and installing OS X86 is a real pain.

i think apple would make a lot of money if they released a PC version of their OS.
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Doubt it.
 
stainlessliquid said:
Why do you prefer AMD? Intel has been handing its ass to them for a couple years now. Sure AMD was the best when it was Athlon vs Pentium, but they have nothing that can compete with the Core 2 Duo. Plus if you went with Core 2 Duo youd be having a really easy time getting OSx86 to work.

As for the clones almost killing Apple I think it needs to be recognized that this was before Ive. Apple was already dying before the clones, Ive saved their ass. These days a lot of people only buy macs because of their aesthetics since having a stylish computer has become a popular thing to consider, Apple would be perfectly safe from clones if they can retain the crown for having the best looking computers while making a little extra money on the side from licensing.
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AMD is much better than intel. AMD plans to develop a 16 core'd CPU and have a built in CPU in ther graphics cards. plus AMD makes their CPU;s much more stable
 
StateCCM said:
AMD is much better than intel. AMD plans to develop a 16 core'd CPU and have a built in CPU in ther graphics cards. plus AMD makes their CPU;s much more stable
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The fact is that Intel is faster than AMD at the moment. AMD CPUs are not more stable than Intel CPUs. Stability of a system is down to software in 99.99% of cases. It is extremely rare for a CPU hardware error to cause a system crash.
 

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Cromulent said:
That does not make them overpriced. That just means Apple does not cater for the real low end users. That is a big difference.
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a typical 500$ laptop really isnt a low end machine. they have core 2 duos, 1GB of ram etc, and an adequate hardrive.

ive compared a dell with slightly better specs than a mac pro. the dell was 200$ cheaper.

i mean 200$ can get you a lot. u could get a very good motherboard, CPU, or hardrive with that money.
 
StateCCM said:
a typical 500$ laptop really isnt a low end machine. they have core 2 duos, 1GB of ram etc, and an adequate hardrive.

ive compared a dell with slightly better specs than a mac pro. the dell was 200$ cheaper.

i mean 200$ can get you a lot. u could get a very good motherboard, CPU, or hardrive with that money.
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Just give up dude...every point you've tried to make has gotten absolutely destroyed. AMD fell off as a chip leader a couple years ago. Once they stop stumbling over their own feet they might catch Intel, but right now thats not gonna happen. Apple won't release OS X for PC's. Its not gonna happen. So if you want an extremely stable OS from a company that controls every piece of hardware their OS comes into contact with, go with Apple.

For everything else, there's Windows. ;)
 
StateCCM said:
a typical 500$ laptop really isnt a low end machine. they have core 2 duos, 1GB of ram etc, and an adequate hardrive.

ive compared a dell with slightly better specs than a mac pro. the dell was 200$ cheaper.

i mean 200$ can get you a lot. u could get a very good motherboard, CPU, or hardrive with that money.
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Post some details about the Dell. At the moment I don't believe you because I spent a couple of hours comparing prices myself.
 
Cromulent said:
He said compared to the Mac Pro. There is no Dell which has the same specs as a Mac Pro and is cheaper.
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Ah, I thought he was talking about a laptop.

StateCCM said:
a typical 500$ laptop really isnt a low end machine. they have core 2 duos, 1GB of ram etc, and an adequate hardrive.
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When I think about it, you can't really go much lower than $500 unless you get a One or something like that.

Plenty of cheaper quad cores (with vastly inferior motherboards) but certainly nothing that can touch the 8 core.
 
flopticalcube said:
I think he means the 1525 which comes for $500 with a 1.83GHz Celeron but can be upgraded (for $150) to a 2GHz Core 2 Duo (small cache size version).
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He said the Mac Pro, not the Macbook. And even so, what about all the other stuff? An equal Inspiron to the Macbook was about $50 more expensive (and I think I found one very close for the same price).

Edit: Beaten, sorry.
 
i think he probably meant "macbook pro", he doesn't own a mac, its possible that he mis-spoked.
 
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