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Mac OS X should be available for the PC platform
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What does any of that have to do with what you can get right now? My last 2 processors were an Athlon XP and Athlon64, since they kicked Pentium's ass in their price ranges. But now I have a Core 2 Duo because the current AMD processors suck in comparison. If AMD gets a better processor in the future then thats great, I'll get that instead of Intel, but the current AMD stuff is a waste of money. They need to get their act together, because Core 2 Duo's are killing them in benchmarks.
ok i just finished putting this together
Mac Pro Specs ---------------------- $2,999
One 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (quad-core)
4GB (4 x 1GB)
320GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB (Two dual-link DVI)
One 16x SuperDrive
Apple Mighty Mouse
Apple Keyboard (English) + Mac OS X
Dell XPS Specs ---------------------- $2,609
Intel® Core™2 Extreme QX6700 (8MB,2.93GHz Factory overclocked)
Genuine Windows Vista® Ultimate
4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 DIMMs
320GB - Seagate 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache
Dual Drives: 48x Combo + 16x DVD+/-RW w/ dbl layer write capable
No Monitor
nVidia GeForce 8800 GT 512MB
Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Dell USB Keyboard
Dell Optical USB Mouse
No Floppy Drive or Media Reader Included
No Modem Requested
ok this is where i rest my case.
1. Core 2 Extreme's are more expensive than Xenons
ok like i said before, the dell is almost 400$ cheaper than the mac. AND, it is faster than the mac pro.
it is also using the ultimate edition of vista. the mac just has leopard, i didnt order final cut express for it or anything.
Mac Pro Specs ---------------------- $2,999
One 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (quad-core)
4GB (4 x 1GB)
320GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB (Two dual-link DVI)
One 16x SuperDrive
Apple Mighty Mouse
Apple Keyboard (English) + Mac OS X
Dell XPS Specs ---------------------- $2,609
Intel® Core™2 Extreme QX6700 (8MB,2.93GHz Factory overclocked)
Genuine Windows Vista® Ultimate
4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 DIMMs
320GB - Seagate 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache
Dual Drives: 48x Combo + 16x DVD+/-RW w/ dbl layer write capable
No Monitor
nVidia GeForce 8800 GT 512MB
Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Dell USB Keyboard
Dell Optical USB Mouse
No Floppy Drive or Media Reader Included
No Modem Requested
ok this is where i rest my case.
1. Core 2 Extreme's are more expensive than Xenons
ok like i said before, the dell is almost 400$ cheaper than the mac. AND, it is faster than the mac pro.
it is also using the ultimate edition of vista. the mac just has leopard, i didnt order final cut express for it or anything.
Graphics cards are the same. The Extreme is going to be choked for memory bandwidth on an 800MHz bus. You should really start with these Dells if you want to compare:
http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/precn_biz?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd
For the first part: Prove it.
For the second: "just" Leopard... who are you? There's only one version of Leopard. Know why? Because Apple feels that their customers want and should get all the features of the OS.
those dells are in a different bundle, they have a monitor included in the price.
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1: It is spelled Xeon, not Xenon, and the Core 2 Extreme and the Xeon aren't in the same class of processor. And furthermore, the Xeon is based on the newer penryn core, and has a faster FSB than your factory OCed Core 2 Extreme.
2: How exactly do you figure that the Dell's 8800GT 512MB is 2x better than the Apple 8800GT 512MB? They are the same card!
ultimate has all the features also. but, if u plan on buying 500 computers for an office building, u dont want an expensive ass OS on all 500 machines, so u could just go with the Home Basic edition of windows.
and by prove it do u want me to take a screen shot of the mac specs website and upload them?
yeah, i did mess up there, i was going to give the mac only a
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB, which still would have made the dell cheaper, but the mac allowed u to pick a specific gfx card so i gave it the same one as the dell.
my mistake.
I'll be generous and let you take $200 off the price then. The point is that they are much more like the Mac Pro than that XPS.
macs let you have a 2.8 GHz CPU the dells only go up to 2.66
either way, it doesnt matter. a core 2 extreme may be an older version but they definently have much better performance.
i was looking at the wrong dell i saw this:
Quad Core Intel® Xeon® Processor X5355 (2.66GHz, 2 X 4MB L2,1333) [add $1,000]
Quad Core Intel® Xeon® Processor E5345 (2.33GHz, 2 X 4MB L2,1333) [add $660]
Quad Core Intel® Xeon® Processor E5320 (1.86GHz, 2 X 4MB L2,1066) [add $230]
Dual Core Intel® Xeon® Processor 5160 (3.00GHz, 4MB L2,1333) [add $730]
Dual Core Intel® Xeon® Processor 5150 (2.66GHz, 4MB L2,1333) [add $500]
Dual Core Intel® Xeon® Processor 5140 (2.33GHz, 4MB L2,1333) [add $260]
Dual Core Intel® Xeon® Processor 5130 (2.00GHz, 4MB L2,1333) [add $130]
Dual Core Intel® Xeon® Processor 5120 (1.86GHz, 4MB L2,1066) [add $30]
Dual Core Intel® Xeon® Processor 5110 (1.60GHz, 4MB L2,1066) [Included in Price]
Quad Core Intel® Xeon® Processor E5335 (2.00GHz, 2 X 4MB L2,1333) [add $430]
Quad Core Intel™ Xeon® X5365 (3.00GHz, 2x4MB L2, 1333) [add $1,430]
there are no 2.80GHz processors in here but the great thing about PC's is, i could buy the 2.66GHz processor and overclock it to 2.80 in seconds.
That's what I was wondering! After a few Dell's I can definitely tell you the notebook build quality is aweful. I wouldn't buy one again.
Cause Apple have to recoup their massive investments in software. Apple would lose money on hardware sales and would need to make it up.
talk about pulling a number out of no where
Er. I'm not really. Microsoft charge about this for the closest equivalent and they are the market leader at working with far bigger margins.
There' clear logic in my thinking. Apple's not going to give up hardware sales and sell a whole operating system for the price they currently charge for an upgrade.
That's not a solution for the businesses and professionals that buy Mac Pro level machines.
What's your point?
o hell no. Dells suck, i wanted to custom build a PC. custome PC's with nice boards kick ass
im just using dell as a comparison
If M$ can do that good with software alone, and you believe OSX is so much better than Windows, where is the worry?
Its all speculations, and I see no proof that software alone won't be able to support apple.