xgman
macrumors 603
This will not be supported until it is native on the Intel chipset. Think 2011 at the earliest. Lightpeak probably 2012 unfortunately. Apple is just not cutting edge on these sort of things.
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Mac Pro 2010 speculations
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This will not be supported until it is native on the Intel chipset. Think 2011 at the earliest. Lightpeak probably 2012 unfortunately. Apple is just not cutting edge on these sort of things.
skyline r34
macrumors 6502
I'm not going to speculate, just going to wait and see what's really going to be in the 2010 Mac Pro but I do hope that apple and evga will bring out the 480 GTX Mac Edition, while will on the subject I just checked out Apple online store and the 30" inch Cinema display now takes up to 5-7 business days to shipped my guess supplies are running low because the 30" inch normally ships in 24hrs and Apple may release the 27"inch LED soon or what ever size Apple is planning to bring out only time will tell
2contagious
macrumors 6502a
Days since last update: 407 (Avg = 236)
hm.. almost double the average time it takes to update Mac Pros. What do you guys think: will it happen before WWDC?
hm.. almost double the average time it takes to update Mac Pros. What do you guys think: will it happen before WWDC?
Wild-Bill
macrumors 68030
When I was waiting for my Early 2008 Mac Pro, I believe the 'days since last update' was 514. YES. 514 days.
I was able to use Apple gift cards I got for Christmas 2006 and Christmas 2007.
We Early 08 owners waited a long time for that update. And it was a good one.
But Apple blew it again by charging outrageous sums for the 09 Mac Pro. The BTO options are a ripoff, the single-processor is a ripoff, etc etc etc...
Umbongo
macrumors 601
That date they have includes things that have no relevence. The average time between new Mac Pro launches is 470 days, and even those times don't matter much as it is the time between Intel's launch and Apple's that has any real bearing on things.
ValSalva
macrumors 68040
Agreed. And Intel is having supply problems. I think it will be June at the earliest and possibly as late as WWDC's late June, early July date. I hope I'm wrong and it's earlier though 😉
ildondeigiocchi
macrumors 6502a
xgman
macrumors 603
Out of curiosity, what are the volumes that Apple needs to release the new Mac Pros?
No idea, but it appears that suppliers have been getting more and more of the new processors every day now.
I can't see anything happening for a few weeks so Apple can maximize the attention for the iPad 3G release. An early to mid May release seems to make sense. By then, the madness surrounding the iPad should be over and the processors should be in good supply.
Well, assuming that Apple is getting supply now of the low end (single processor) parts, they get an even smaller number of the higher speed (single processor) parts. Combine that with getting the larger volumes of the dual processor parts at the low speeds and smaller volumes of the higher clock speeds, and we get at least a few weeks to build up enough parts to span the product release offerings. On top of that any testing acceptance tests done by whoever does the assembly, and we would be looking at at least an end of May release.
Of course, that all depends on when Apple started getting volume parts at each speed.
Just a pure guess on my part.
For SP systems, there's only one Hex core part available right now, the W3680 (3.33GHz). Any others will be the 35xx family at the time of release.
DP is another matter, as there's an entire family (no need for the 55xx series). As per production quantities, it's hard to say right now, as they tend to stockpile quantity for their large scale orders (system vendors), and ship based on contracts. Retail packaged parts tend to take a backseat in the beginning to meet contractual obligations.
Dr.Pants
macrumors 65816
I may've said this before or it may've been buried in this thread, but I'm fairly certain that Apple is going wild hog for the daughterboard system so they have higher margins; in this case, for marketing technique, I would say that they're waiting for lower-clocked W36xxs to release for the MacPro to offer a steady lineup instead of a quad/hexa release for optimal PR.
Of course, just a gut feeling, but in my theory Apple is holding themselves back as Intel hasn't released a whole new line; Intel introduced a whole new line for the Nehalem release, but not for Gulftown (single-socket-parts). In the dual-socket realm, having differing clockspeeds was essential (as many server farms I imagine have electrical and heating profiles that they have to fit and the need for cores).
Not if they're trying to release systems in June, as the additional 2 SP/UP parts won't show up until Q4 2010 (slower clock), and Q1 2011 IIRC (fastest clock, apparently 3.46GHz). Definitely not by June 2010 however.
Just curious, will Apple be using the 5600 Series Hexacore Xeons in the new Mac Pros?
I randomly went over to Dell's site and checked out the workstations they have. I went to configure a system and it looks like they have all the various models of the Xeon 5600 processors available. If Dell has the processors widely available, surely we are getting close to a Mac Pro update?
Sorry if I'm way off, I'm a little bit clueless with all this processor stuff. 😱
I randomly went over to Dell's site and checked out the workstations they have. I went to configure a system and it looks like they have all the various models of the Xeon 5600 processors available. If Dell has the processors widely available, surely we are getting close to a Mac Pro update?
Sorry if I'm way off, I'm a little bit clueless with all this processor stuff. 😱
Mac Pro 2010 Wanted List:
Blu-ray
Another PCIe slot
Built-in USB 3.0
Built-in eSATA
Better GPU options (reasonably priced)
None of which will happen.
Blu-ray
Another PCIe slot
Built-in USB 3.0
Built-in eSATA
Better GPU options (reasonably priced)
None of which will happen.
xgman
macrumors 603
Umbongo
macrumors 601
Yeah they should be. 3600 and 5600 if they continue with the current treatment. Dell and HP have had them for a bit now. Other than a leak with a date, product codes or Apple announcing them there isn't much more that could come for us to go on in regards to a release date.
Murray M
macrumors regular
I'm with you: I would love to see an Apple initiated HD distribution method. HOWEVER, I don't think it's in Apple best interest to move towards Blue Ray. From their perspective the disc is dead. Movies are following music to the harddrive. The near future is TVs with harddrives that wirelessly connect to computers. Blue ray is already dead.
What would be AWESOME is a ultra mobile AppleTV. A small multimedia hd that could be remote controlled and set up for auto functions (auto play, auto loop).
Not really, as most consumers don't have access to adequate ISP bandwidths.
Not yet anyway, and the upgrades are slow in comming, as they're waiting for governmentally funded relocation of physical lines, such as highway expansion projects to cut their costs (makes permits much easier too).
In the end, it's all about increasing the bottom line. Gotta love how they get away with using tax dollars that way. 🙄
Icaras
macrumors 603
I love how your recent posts have went from curious speculation to straight, blunt, no BS demands 😀
But I think that is starting to sum up the entire mood here. Just give it to us already, damnit.
Granted, there could be technical reasons that have delayed the release (parts availability, new features resulting from new boards,...).
But personally, I'm starting to lean towards the idea that they scheduled the date around (hopefully between) the iPad and upcoming iPhone release dates to prevent it from distracting from those products. No matter how silent it is in comparison to either of those products in terms of press releases and marketing.
Icaras
macrumors 603
This is the most logical reason I can think of too. Note how the MBPs were also released in between the subsequent iPad launches. I've stated before that I just see absolutely no place on the show floor at WWDC for the Mac Pro, even if they did something a bit more substantial, like a design change, USB 3, or what have you.
I seriously think making any public announcement about the Mac Pro would likely backfire on Apple. I think announcing to a room full of developers that your company now offers several month old processors is one of the last things they would want to do. Any other, unexpected updates to the MP would simply be underminded by their prolongued tardiness.