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Mac Pro 2010 speculations

I just emailed the following to Jobs:

Dear Mr. Jobs,

I'm a filmmaker and video artist. The itoys are cute and all, but I really need a new Mac Pro that's reasonably priced. There's been exactly one update to the Mac Pro line in the last 28 months. It seems the professional equipment and professional clientele Apple used to be known for catering to have fallen by the wayside.

Can you please either:

1) Update the Mac Pro line
or
2) License Final Cut Studio for use on other operating systems so I can get some work done


Thank you very much,

-A Lifelong Professional MACINTOSH User.
 
afrowq said:
I just emailed the following to Jobs:

Dear Mr. Jobs,

I'm a filmmaker and video artist. The itoys are cute and all, but I really need a new Mac Pro that's reasonably priced. There's been exactly one update to the Mac Pro line in the last 28 months. It seems the professional equipment and professional clientele Apple used to be known for catering to have fallen by the wayside.

Can you please either:

1) Update the Mac Pro line
or
2) License Final Cut Studio for use on other operating systems so I can get some work done


Thank you very much,

-A Lifelong Professional MACINTOSH User.
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I'm in total agrement with you, I watched the Doctor who confidential episodes a few days back and noticed not a single Mac on any of the desks. All the video, graphics, digital models, sound. etc where done on Dell systems.

I'd hat to think that the Mac Pro line is Dead but apple certainly don't seem to be bothered in even suggesting of a date for the release.

Could it be Apple can't make the new intel chips work???? going by there recent history of releasing early products with faults included as standard. Maybe Apple realise, to release the Mac Pro with problems would destroy there high-end machine for the Pro's reputation.

Personally I'm holding out but even the most resilient Mac supporters can only take so much abuse.
 
You know with all the secrecy tactics that may or may not help Apple with it's iProducts lines, they would actually be wise to let some info out about the new Mac pros. It would go along way towards keeping us interested. A lack of info doesn't really work here.
 
xgman said:
You know with all the secrecy tactics that may or may not help Apple with it's iProducts lines, they would actually be wise to let some info out about the new Mac pros. It would go along way towards keeping us interested. A lack of info doesn't really work here.
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Definitely. :)

They should orchestrate a "leak", or risk the loss of sales as users may begin to take serious looks at the competition (total switch-over) or even hack those systems to run OS X (independents would be more willing to consider this method).
 
afrowq said:
I just emailed the following to Jobs:

Dear Mr. Jobs,

I'm a filmmaker and video artist. The itoys are cute and all, but I really need a new Mac Pro that's reasonably priced. There's been exactly one update to the Mac Pro line in the last 28 months. It seems the professional equipment and professional clientele Apple used to be known for catering to have fallen by the wayside.

Can you please either:

1) Update the Mac Pro line
or
2) License Final Cut Studio for use on other operating systems so I can get some work done


Thank you very much,

-A Lifelong Professional MACINTOSH User.
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you should have added make 64 bit final cut studio too and make it fast and make it a better comparable like (omg i'm gonna get chewed for this) similar adobe products. FCP is lagging behind in development compared to adobe premier and after effects. And soundtrack pro is buggy.
 
macusersince5 said:
you should have added make 64 bit final cut studio too and make it fast and make it a better comparable like (omg i'm gonna get chewed for this) similar adobe products. FCP is lagging behind in development compared to adobe premier and after effects. And soundtrack pro is buggy.
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FCP's codebase is an ancient, creaky mess. Who knows how long they have been trying to sort it out for? The fast, 64bit FCP won't be coming 'till it's done, that's for sure. Hopefully the end of this year. And some combined DVD/Blu-ray/iTunes Extras authoring tool. Call it "Sideshow" or something.
 
Mac Pro- to be or not to be?

Hello, everyone. This is my first posting.

I found a dusty piece of paper the other day with my scribbled specs from the Mac Pro I almost bought last summer. Ironically enough, it has pretty much the same exact specs as what Apple is selling on their website today. For the same price tag as it was LAST YEAR.

I work in the animation biz in LA. I use Photoshop, After Effects, Flash, Toonboom Harmony, illustrator, as well as a small number of other motion graphics applications. I'm also plenty busy doing freelance animation BG design and art direction from my own small studio at home in the evenings. Thats where the Mac Pro comes in. I guess you could say I'm the target market of the Mac Pro.

I usually try to buy hardware that will remain on the cutting edge for a year or two past my intended upgrade date.... it needs to be upgradeable and expandable as my needs grow. That usually means a Mac Pro. But I will not buy last year's technology at today's prices.

I have friends in the animation biz who have unfortunately been driven to look elsewhere for their hardware solutions, and more professional users are doing it every day. (I'm gonna be one of them.)

Why doesn't the price ever come down on the Mac Pro models? Can't Apple at least throw us a bone and offer upgraded specs, like a better graphics card, or more memory, or a larger hard drive? What kind of a flagship computer lags behind the home-user's Imac i7 in specs and performance on some models? How can the Mac Pro justify such a price increase? Are they kidding?

I agree with a previous poster that Apple REALLY needs to drop a hint and leak something about the next Pro (if they're ever planning on doing one!) or they risk losing their high- end customers forever. I have no choice but to look elsewhere.
 
afrowq said:
I just emailed the following to Jobs:

Dear Mr. Jobs,

I'm a filmmaker and video artist. The itoys are cute and all, but I really need a new Mac Pro that's reasonably priced. There's been exactly one update to the Mac Pro line in the last 28 months. It seems the professional equipment and professional clientele Apple used to be known for catering to have fallen by the wayside.

Can you please either:

1) Update the Mac Pro line
or
2) License Final Cut Studio for use on other operating systems so I can get some work done


Thank you very much,

-A Lifelong Professional MACINTOSH User.
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absolutely awesome. i agree with you 100%. great letter!! i also emailed steve jobs a few weeks ago with similar comments.
 
Cavepainter said:
I found a dusty piece of paper the other day with my scribbled specs from the Mac Pro I almost bought last summer. Ironically enough, it has pretty much the same exact specs as what Apple is selling on their website today. For the same price tag as it was LAST YEAR.
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Cavepainter said:
Why doesn't the price ever come down on the Mac Pro models? Can't Apple at least throw us a bone and offer upgraded specs, like a better graphics card, or more memory, or a larger hard drive? What kind of a flagship computer lags behind the home-user's Imac i7 in specs and performance on some models? How can the Mac Pro justify such a price increase? Are they kidding?
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Not really ironic, as this is how Apple usually operates its Mac hardware business. Rarely are there ever "price drops". If any price drops do occur, it's usually CTO upgrades that are quietly price dropped.

But you're still right. They should have at least dropped the price by now. It's totally ridiculous they've kept the prices up this high, even after Intel released the new chips.

If anything, a price drop, would at least be indicative of an imminent release of a new Mac Pro, something that is quite natural in business where companies clear out inventory by dropping prices on current models to make way for the newer machines.

Alas, Apple does not seem to operate "traditionally". :mad:
 
Cavepainter said:
Hello, everyone. This is my first posting.

I have friends in the animation biz who have unfortunately been driven to look elsewhere for their hardware solutions, and more professional users are doing it every day. (I'm gonna be one of them.)
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I am in the exact same boat. Animator/filmmaker in LA. Need to replace my MP 1,1 but cannot possibly seriously consider the current Mac Pro. Before the Windows 7 release it was a pretty easy decision to wait for any Mac Pro update, but not so much anymore. Looks like I might be heading back over the fence, especially because it is looking more and more like Apple is starting to write off this portion of the market, which makes me nervous about investing in their hardware going into the future.
 
It seems we are in the same boat..... Professional Film/Video/Animators....

Perhaps we can organise a mass email to Stev Jobs... if his inbox is filled with 100s of email about the mac pro i am sure he will egt the point and perhaps throw us a bone??

Does anyone feel like organsising this? I would but I am in work right now... currently waiting on a render to finish.... hence the time to read some threads.
 
anim8or said:
It seems we are in the same boat..... Professional Film/Video/Animators....

Perhaps we can organise a mass email to Stev Jobs... if his inbox is filled with 100s of email about the mac pro i am sure he will egt the point and perhaps throw us a bone??

Does anyone feel like organsising this? I would but I am in work right now... currently waiting on a render to finish.... hence the time to read some threads.
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I'm not sure if that's such a good idea tbh. It might have the opposite effect.

He might be annoyed by the emails, and thus deciding he'll delay the release even longer. I know it's far-fetched, but I really do think he's capable of doing such a thing.
 
sOid said:
I'm not sure if that's such a good idea tbh. It might have the opposite effect.

He might be annoyed by the emails, and thus deciding he'll delay the release even longer. I know it's far-fetched, but I really do think he's capable of doing such a thing.
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I somewhat agree that he is capable of such a move but right now i am desperate enough and angry at the lack of information i am willing to risk it!

PS What address does everybody use to email Steve Jobs??
 
Here's what I think has actually happened;

With the release of Avid 5 & Adobe CS5, Final Cut Studio is no longer the top of the heap.

Literally overnight it's suddenly (arguably) in third place!

Now on top of that we have the Mac Pro - (one possible gateway to Final Cut Studio)

Aside from being outgunned, the hardware is now 50% too expensive for 12 month old tech.

Combine these two factors and Apple have literally in the last 6 weeks entirely lost their 5 year lead in the Pro market.

OSX is their only value proposition left. I've not used Windows 7 and I'm seriously loathed to - that factor alone is stopping me jumping - I'm like a stick of Apple rock through and through, but I'm considering looking into it - what professional wouldn't?

They need to at the very least pre-announce the new Mac Pro right now and accept pre-orders - even if it won't ship for 6-8 weeks (just like they do with iPad/iPhone) - just to stop the mass exodus that's going to start in 2 weeks time.

Right now I can purchase CS5 and a crazy fast Windows PC for the same price as today's Mac Pro - that's a real dilemma.

Apple could see huge chunks of their Pro market gone in 6-9 months if they're not careful.

With a nice new Mac Pro I'll be prepared to wait 6-9 months for FCS4 - but right now 18 months of pent-up 'backed-up wannabe Mac Pro upgrades are wondering - 'what should I do next with my dollars!'. If they jump Apple Pro division is in big trouble.
 
Okay, so I sent Mr. Jobs an email. I got a reply! :eek:

His response was thus:

"Let them eat cake."

Does anybody know what this means???



:mad:
(sarcasm)
 
GiantDolphin said:
Okay, so I sent Mr. Jobs an email. I got a reply! :eek:

His response was thus:

"Let them eat cake."

Does anybody know what this means???



:mad:
(sarcasm)
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What did your email say??

It would be easier to speculate on what this response actually means if we knew exactly what you wrote....
 
anim8or said:
What did your email say??

It would be easier to speculate on what this response actually means if we knew exactly what you wrote....
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That was a joke, obviously...;) It's a reference to Marie Antoinette or so. Who is supposed to have said it to a subject who told her that his or her children were starving. Because they had no bread. Something like that.
 
anim8or said:
What did your email say??

It would be easier to speculate on what this response actually means if we knew exactly what you wrote....
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"If they don't have bread, let them eat cake" - is what allegedly Queen of France Marie Antoinette had said in response to hungry people riots on the verge of the French revolution (1789).
This report is a HISTORICAL FAKE (she never said that), but her detractors made it up for political reasons.

Mr. Jobs might have meant that available Mac Pro's are good enough for professional purposes.
 
Yes... I am aware of what the quote means, but it would bear a different meaning depending on what it is in response to....

My sarcasm radar isnt in tune today it seems!
 
anim8or said:
Yes... I am aware of what the quote means, but it would bear a different meaning depending on what it is in response to....

My sarcasm radar isnt in tune today it seems!
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I think that Mr. Jobs is very subtle when suggesting that today's Mac Pro users beg for new Mac Pro's as French people begged for bread more that two centuries ago.
It might also suggest that thinking pattern at Apple's top hierarchy ("the Queen") is not the same as that prevailing at the "people's level" (Mac Pro users).
They know better, so stop whining :p
 
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