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Mac Pro and Woodcrest: Confirmed?
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BakedBeans
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gugy said:
This isn't opinion, this is fact.
It is the very thing I and others I know will be doing.
BakedBeans
macrumors 68040
Eidorian said:
you might have to shout.... he can't hear you over the fan
or maybe the pixels on his 14inch monitor are so jagged that he cant read it.
zero2dash
macrumors 6502a
BakedBeans said:
LMFAO
Oh yes, I'm here bashing OSX for its flaws too, aren't I?
LOL
Just when I have been checking out this site and forums for a few weeks now and I've seen so many Apple owners that weren't fanboys and didn't bring up old stale ideas about "Mac vs Windows", well son you come and make up for that lack of ideas and posts. Just when I thought Apple owners had dropped the snob attitude and could have meaningful conversations with Windows owners because they realized that times have changed on both sides of the fence and both platforms are equally useful, well - you appear and prove that the times haven't changed and that there's still stuck up Apple owners out there. So congratulations. The "elitist snob attitude 'cause I paid more money for my computer than you" attitude (that fits you well) is soooooooo OS9 vs ME.
Get with the times.
BTW
I don't have a 14" monitor. Well, I guess I do. Add another 7" to it though and double that. 'case...I'm running -2- 21" Trinitron flat screens. Enjoy your fancy 23" Cinema Display LCD...oh, but being in the design industry, I'm SURE that you know that LCDs are pathetic as correctly displaying colors on screen at all angles though, so - I'm sure you'll upgrade one of these days.
Eidorian
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I know how much I can "save" by building my own PC. I've done it myself. I just don't go around waving that my PC was cheaper then a Mac blah blah...BakedBeans said:
Yeah, I wish Apple had a consumer tower or charged less. If it happens it happens. If it doesn't then it doesn't. A pro machine is going to be purchased by video and graphic artists regardless. If you're complaining that there isn't a consumer tower and the iMac doesn't turn you on, build your OWN machine and shutup on MacRumors.
You're being the snob. Why do you care how much the Power Mac was? Going to rub in the XX PC was $$$ cheaper and !@$# faster?zero2dash said:
gugy
macrumors 601
BakedBeans said:
Exactly!
Nobody will jump to buy the latest machine without having the apps they need universal. It's proven that Rosetta is not that great. Many tests from Macworld and other sources say is not that fast.
So if you really need speed and reliability you will wait to have universal apps. That's why I bought my Quad G5 last October and that's why I think my Quad will hold their value until everything is universal.
Evangelion seems to be the only blind person that don't want to see that.
hulugu
macrumors 68000
gugy said:
Whoa. Slow down there, for what it is Rosetta is actually very cool. It's not up to pro-specs, but it is a nice stop-gap and does a very good job on less intensive applications.
The Quads will however retain their value even after CS3 because they're still very nice machines just as the G4 towers retained much of their value even as the G5s were introduced.
Well.
I still think 4 core Woodcrest (Conroe) is much better than 2 core Conroe at same frequency.
And some people in this thread still complain becuase we don't appreciate conroe?
I still think 4 core Woodcrest (Conroe) is much better than 2 core Conroe at same frequency.
And some people in this thread still complain becuase we don't appreciate conroe?
jiggie2g
macrumors 6502
Eidorian said:
The 970FX is just a rev.b core with a die shrink 130nm to 90nm , sort of like when AMD went from Clawhammer to Winchester , just a die shrink , then they added SSE3 with Venice(my old darling). or intel going from Smithfield to Presler 90nm-65nm.
970FX/MP whatever is inferior to Core 2.
Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
Just tossing more information out.jiggie2g said:
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/pa-powerenv/
http://arstechnica.com/news/posts/1076696307.html
gugy said:
Congratulations. You know what this means?
YOU win in the long run!
By the time you buy, we'll already be on Clovertown, maybe even Tigerton for 8-core monsters! You'l be able to buy a better spec computer at the same price.
milo said:
Unlikely as I configured several. You're looking in the wrong section of their site- you need to go to the medium & large business section as far as I can tell.
jiggie2g said:
And it runs Windows.... you lose 😉
Honestly, what other answer would you expect from a Macrumors forum.
Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
That makes me wonder if anyone is going to buy any Pro tower released at WWDC. I don't see developers and artists foaming at the mouth for an Intel tower unless we get Adobe applications.Silentwave said:
Yeah, the 970FX die shrink led to more performance per watt. I was just posting some information for everyone else to munch on. We've been down the Conroe vs. Merom in the iMac to many times in this thread. The 970FX inst' as close to Conroe's TDP as most people believe.jiggie2g said:
boncellis
macrumors 6502
Apple's Gestalt
Let me begin by saying that this exchange of viewpoints is exactly why I read Macrumors. I think, short of the name calling, the debate is refreshing.
That said, I think several posters have been somewhat myopic in their soothsaying--it's not always about hardware specs or competitor pricing. Ask someone who switched to a Mac what the difference is and without missing a beat they will say the difference is in the experience. That is something that Apple hasn't lost sight of, and that's why I'm a loyal customer.
Competitive hardware is a necessary, but not sufficient, component of a superior machine. Remember--the Mac Pro needs competitive hardware, not necessarily the pinnacle (that's what upgrades are for), to hold its own. Everything else Apple has to offer, not the least of which is the OS, gives it that much more value.
The whole is greater than the sum of its parts, in my opinion.
Let me begin by saying that this exchange of viewpoints is exactly why I read Macrumors. I think, short of the name calling, the debate is refreshing.
That said, I think several posters have been somewhat myopic in their soothsaying--it's not always about hardware specs or competitor pricing. Ask someone who switched to a Mac what the difference is and without missing a beat they will say the difference is in the experience. That is something that Apple hasn't lost sight of, and that's why I'm a loyal customer.
Competitive hardware is a necessary, but not sufficient, component of a superior machine. Remember--the Mac Pro needs competitive hardware, not necessarily the pinnacle (that's what upgrades are for), to hold its own. Everything else Apple has to offer, not the least of which is the OS, gives it that much more value.
The whole is greater than the sum of its parts, in my opinion.
gugy
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Eidorian said:
I think many people will buy the new machines at WWDC.
Many will wait for all apps they need to be universal.
It's a normal thing and Apple is expecting that. The transition period will take on sales untill everything is universal, then sales will surge.
For me I'll keep my Quad G5 and wait for Rev.b of the Pro Mac. It's the safest way to go IMHO.
I bet the new Pro Mac will be really nice. So I hope Adobe will have the apps I need universal sooner than later.
Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
Well, I just don't expect as much of a mass purchase of Intel Power Macs. I know that people who use Apple Pro Apps will be first in line. I don't expect to see the Adobe users though.gugy said:
I'm in the market for a new Mac right now before school. I might just stick with a refurbished Core Duo MacBook Pro. Unless there's some sort of new MacBook Pro released at WWDC and a price drop.
if we could just all agree that jiggie2g is much smarter than we-idiots-who-want-to-buy-a-mac then maybe he would shut up.
It's also a lot cheaper to build your own house AND you get a better house. I could buy 50 "lovely Samsung LNR329D 32in LCD HDTV"s with the money I saved building my own house. Of course I did not have enough time to build a Win XP computer because of it so I guess that makes me an idiot. oh well.
It's also a lot cheaper to build your own house AND you get a better house. I could buy 50 "lovely Samsung LNR329D 32in LCD HDTV"s with the money I saved building my own house. Of course I did not have enough time to build a Win XP computer because of it so I guess that makes me an idiot. oh well.