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baleensavage

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Aug 2, 2005
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vniow said:
The baseline is actually somewhere around $2100, you can lower some of the options when configuring.
Thats a little better, but what about having a single processor $1500 model like they used to do with the G4s? If Apple really wants to build their market share, they have to realize that people often buy PCs because they can be customized and some of those people don't want $2500 computers. Not having a customizable model in the desktop lineup that is under $2000 is a bad idea.
 

brap

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May 10, 2004
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gnasher729 said:
If that is what you want, Apple won't mind at all if you buy a Macintosh to run Windows.
It's almost at the price point where the OS comes for free, so a Windows OEM install wouldn't make much of a dent on top...

It's a very tasty option if you qualify for education pricing, the dual 2GHz/160GB option tips the scales at a measly £1350 all-in. Knew there was a reason for marrying a teacher.

The final, killer point though: video cards. Presumably we don't yet know if a standard PC video card would work, right?
 

andiwm2003

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Mar 29, 2004
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Glen Quagmire said:
Pretty impressive specs, aside from the fairly hopeless 7300GT graphics card.

The internal design - the hard drive slots and the memory - seems particularly well thought out.

The Mac Pro will be my next computer. Time to configure one and see how much it would cost.


wow, it took a full three (3) posts till somebody complains about the GPU. that seems to be the only constant thing that survived even the intel transition.:D
 

BlizzardBomb

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Jun 15, 2005
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Hmm... Cinema displays also got a bump.

20" ACD
Brightness: 250 cd/m2 -> 300 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio: 400:1 -> 700:1

23" ACD
Brightness: 270 cd/m2 -> 400 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio: 400:1 -> 700:1
 

kainjow

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Jun 15, 2000
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BlizzardBomb said:
Hmm... Cinema displays also got a bump.

20" ACD
Brightness: 250 cd/m2 -> 300 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio: 400:1 -> 700:1

23" ACD
Brightness: 270 cd/m2 -> 400 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio: 400:1 -> 700:1
Nice find, thanks. I was hoping they'd update the displays. Now to see when my local Apple Store will have them in stock :p
 

Dont Hurt Me

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Powerful system for sure but looking at this thing it seems the base unit is a workstation to me. The 7300 GPU is a $99 Gpu so I was surprised they went so low with the base graphics. Good thing you can build like you want it and they offer better GPu's but it wont be cheap. Cpu wise its kicks rear end just as its expansion now does and can hold 4 GPU's:eek: PowerMac is again a butt kicking machine. Twice as fast as old & slow quad G5 thats kind of funny. At least this gigantic tower can put things into all that space now:) There is a gigantic hole now for the user with a monitor. MacMini and ProMac......hmmmm when is the next show?

As a side note a AMD3500/6800GT combo will still hammer the base unit in Doom3:p
 

gnasher729

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Nov 25, 2005
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Processor prices

Just checked the Intel July price list: Prices per Woodcrest processor are $851, $690 and $316 for one chip running at 3.0, 2.66 or 2.0 GHz, that is $1702, $1380 and $632 for two processors.

Somehow I suspect that Apple pays different prices, because you save $300 if you go down to 2 GHz and you pay $800 extra for 3.0 GHz. Should be the other way round according to the Intel price list. So the 2.66 GHz is a real bargain compared to the others.

If you subtract the processors from the price, then you pay $1597, $1119 and $1567 for the three models.
 

Dr.Gargoyle

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Oct 8, 2004
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Tempted

Hmmmmm....
It really seems like a good time to retire my old MDD. Still, $5400 is a lot of money. (what you have to pay here in sweden with edu discount for a 2.66 MP, X1900 XT, 500Gb + 23'')
Hmmmmm... tempted, very very tempted.

Side note: I have actually considered buying it in US and sneak it back to Sweden if I just could figure out how to transport it....
 

Pressure

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May 30, 2006
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Dont Hurt Me said:
As a side note a AMD3500/6800GT combo will still hammer the base unit in Doom3:p

The real question, however is, who even cares about Doomed III?

I surely don't hope you buy a Mac Pro to play that awful game . . .

The base unit will hammer the AMD Athlon64 3500+ into the ground in everything else ;)
 

bursty

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Jan 31, 2004
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I absolutely cannot believe airport and bluetooth are still options on the Pros. They are standard on EVERY other model. What the hell, Apple?
 

BlizzardBomb

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Jun 15, 2005
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gnasher729 said:
Just checked the Intel July price list: Prices per Woodcrest processor are $851, $690 and $316 for one chip running at 3.0, 2.66 or 2.0 GHz, that is $1702, $1380 and $632 for two processors.

Somehow I suspect that Apple pays different prices, because you save $300 if you go down to 2 GHz and you pay $800 extra for 3.0 GHz. Should be the other way round according to the Intel price list. So the 2.66 GHz is a real bargain compared to the others.

If you subtract the processors from the price, then you pay $1597, $1119 and $1567 for the three models.

It's likely that Apple get a discount off all Intel products. The Dual-dual 2.66 GHz + X1900 XT seems like the sweet spot for me :)

As a sidenote, it appears the PM G5 and XServe G5 are still available on the Apple Store.
 

gnasher729

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Dont Hurt Me said:
Powerful system for sure but looking at this thing it seems the base unit is a workstation to me. The 7300 GPU is a $99 Gpu so I was surprised they went so low with the base graphics.

I think there are many people who need all the CPU power they can get, and don't need that much graphics power at all.
 

TedSlawski

macrumors newbie
Aug 7, 2006
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western massachusetts
Finally

Well a really fast computer at a reasonable price that you don't have to wait months for? I'm pinching myself before I make the call and order one. The idea that this could be what the original dual 2gig G5 that I (and a lot of other people) waited months for and really was kind of a ho-hum experience updating from a dual 800 quicksilver. Just playing around with a dual core iMac and being impressed says "this has got to be the one". The promise that they made for the G5 and didn't come across with. I would really like to play around with one of thses and say WOW!, not try to remember if it opened Photoshop faster than my quicksilver or not. 4 X 2.66Ghz Woodcrest—oughta do it!
 

aswitcher

macrumors 603
Oct 8, 2003
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BlizzardBomb said:
Hmm... Cinema displays also got a bump.

20" ACD
Brightness: 250 cd/m2 -> 300 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio: 400:1 -> 700:1

23" ACD
Brightness: 270 cd/m2 -> 400 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio: 400:1 -> 700:1

Oww.I saw the rpice drop but not the spec boost. I thought Apple was trying to clear older stock but now I think this is the new monitor and we caren't going to see one with an iSight built in. New iSight maybe...
 

aviationwiz

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Apr 2, 2005
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I just called my local Apple Store and they said they would have them in as early as just a bit later this week.
 

teme

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Jan 8, 2004
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Flowbee said:
Excellent. Now it's time to wait for the sub-$2000 "Pro" desktop announcement. There's a suspicious gap in their lineup. Mac Pro Cube, perhaps?

I'll wait for that until Paris, and if it isn't available then, I'll buy a PC.
 

MacBoobsPro

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Jan 10, 2006
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If i stuck 4x nvidia whatchamacallit would it make any difference to gaming etc on one monitor? Or is an extra graphics card just for extra monitors?

:confused:
 

Glen Quagmire

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Jan 6, 2006
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UK
stuartluff said:
If i stuck 4x nvidia whatchamacallit would it make any difference to gaming etc on one monitor? Or is an extra graphics card just for extra monitors?

:confused:

It's for extra monitors.
 

BlizzardBomb

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Jun 15, 2005
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teme said:
I'll wait for that until Paris, and if it isn't available then, I'll buy a PC with Core 2 Duo E6600 and GeForce 7900 GT.

Mac OS X not do anything for you? :) I do agree that there is space for a Mid-range desktop.

I think if Apple just made the Mac Mini a bit bigger. They could fit in a Core 2 Duo (Conroe) inside along with a 3.5" Hard Drive and GMA X3000. The 1.86 GHz Conroe kills the Yonah Core Solo in everything and costs less than the Core Solo. A 3.5" Hard Drive is also much better in the value department. Couple this with an option for a Single-Woodcrest Mac Pro and it completely eliminates the need for a mid-range tower.
 

DakotaGuy

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Jan 14, 2002
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First of all...it seems to me they should have offered a single dual core processor model...like a single 2.6Ghz model for something like $1599. Second why do you only save $300 when you opt for the 2Ghz model but the 3Ghz model costs $800 more???

This machine would be complete overkill for me, still it is fun to see what it will do. There is a huge gap in their line up between the iMac and Mac Pro now.
 
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