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Mac Pro Announced
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shelterpaw said:Nice!!! Most likely you made a wise decision to purchase your addional RAM and HD from a third party. Apple requires arms and legs for their optional upgrades.
I like it to show up ready to go.
Plus, I know for sure the apple chosen ram will be flawless...
This is a rev. A.
BlizzardBomb said:106fps in Doom 3 at high quality with the X1900 XT
What a machine! I'll have 3 to go please.
http://gear.ign.com/articles/721/721902p2.html
alienware, less expensive, 222 fps
granted no os x though so i understand.
Prices will come down
Apple's newest and greatest always has high prices, then they will come down.
With the Gx range, this didn't happen as IBM rarely changed their prices.
Welcome to the new Intel world where prices change on a monthly basis.
Remember when the Mac Mini were introduced?
First they were quite expensive, then prices came down within a few weeks.
I can't remember when the next Intel price drop is expected - someone tell us please? (probably in about 2 or 3 months time - Octoberish.)
Apple's newest and greatest always has high prices, then they will come down.
With the Gx range, this didn't happen as IBM rarely changed their prices.
Welcome to the new Intel world where prices change on a monthly basis.
Remember when the Mac Mini were introduced?
First they were quite expensive, then prices came down within a few weeks.
I can't remember when the next Intel price drop is expected - someone tell us please? (probably in about 2 or 3 months time - Octoberish.)
Can anyone tell what the holdups are on Mac Pros? Both the X1900 and bluetooth/airport seem to take it from 3-5 days up to 2-5 weeks.
I'm excited but disappointed at the same time.
It's nice to see some of the things they're incorporating into Leopard, and it's great to finally see a physical MacPro and read a spec sheet. You get a lot of processing power for the money, no doubt.
On the flipside -
the base video card is pretty meh. Additional HD options are ridiculously limited; you can only add 500g ones (no 250) for 2nd/3rd/4th HD. Base price on the dual 2.6 is..ok I guess. I join many others when I say I was hoping for lower cost but we'll see if they deliver a high end iMac with a Core 2 in the next few months.
Congrats to all the early adopters; I'm envious.
But I think the waiting game is best, even though it sucks. Then again I don't have the necessary funds so it's excusable. I'll be waiting til next year around the time Leopard launches I think and then I'll buy...mmm something. (Depends on what these are going for and also if we see any Core 2 iMacs.)
All in all though, way to go Apple...you've got yourself another customer. I can't wait to be able to use some of the new features in Leopard.
It's nice to see some of the things they're incorporating into Leopard, and it's great to finally see a physical MacPro and read a spec sheet. You get a lot of processing power for the money, no doubt.
On the flipside -
the base video card is pretty meh. Additional HD options are ridiculously limited; you can only add 500g ones (no 250) for 2nd/3rd/4th HD. Base price on the dual 2.6 is..ok I guess. I join many others when I say I was hoping for lower cost but we'll see if they deliver a high end iMac with a Core 2 in the next few months.
Congrats to all the early adopters; I'm envious.
But I think the waiting game is best, even though it sucks. Then again I don't have the necessary funds so it's excusable. I'll be waiting til next year around the time Leopard launches I think and then I'll buy...mmm something.
(Depends on what these are going for and also if we see any Core 2 iMacs.)All in all though, way to go Apple...you've got yourself another customer. I can't wait to be able to use some of the new features in Leopard.
There are many of you I want to beat with a spiky stick right now. Let's consolidate you into one bullet-point list of whiners:
A bunch of wankers.
1. You are going to spend thousands on a Mac PRO and you are going to pitch a fit over adding wireless for less than 80 bucks? Guess what, these are PROFESSIONAL WORKSTATIONS, not consumer internet computers. The target demographic of these computers is a wired-network setting. Obviously home users and others may have use for wireless in a Mac Pro, so that's why Apple OFFERS IT.
2. What applications do you need that a Mac Mini Core Duo can't handle? Oh, games? Why in the sweet baby Jesus' name are you on MACrumors if you're a gamer? Apple cedes your kind to Dellienware. Go. Shoo. Leave the grownups alone. Some people want a "configurable" computer even though they will never have any need to configure anything (besides RAM). Niche of a niche. If you're such a geek that you want all the PCI express slots and hard drive bays and dual optical drives, get a newspaper route and bloody buy a Mac Pro. If Apple decides to release a Mac Cube, you'll be the first to know, pinky swear!
3. WWDC. D. C. ****D**** If you thought an iPhone was coming, you are certifiable.
From what I am reading, the Mac Pro seems to be the most mind-numbingly excellent computer and value to ever come out of Apple. Huge triumph. I can't wait to play with one in the stores.
And to those of you who so desperately want snazzy new consumer products, you'll always have Paris.
- How could they not include Airport/Bluetooth? Screw you Apple, I'm going (to Win XP) home!
- How could they not release a low-end non-pro Mac Pro? That's it! I'm getting a Fujitsu!!
- How could WWDC be so lame?? I can't believe they didn't release an iPhone and new iPod! Don't these rumor sites verify their information with Apple first?? To hell with Macs, I'm Ubunting!
A bunch of wankers.
1. You are going to spend thousands on a Mac PRO and you are going to pitch a fit over adding wireless for less than 80 bucks? Guess what, these are PROFESSIONAL WORKSTATIONS, not consumer internet computers. The target demographic of these computers is a wired-network setting. Obviously home users and others may have use for wireless in a Mac Pro, so that's why Apple OFFERS IT.
2. What applications do you need that a Mac Mini Core Duo can't handle? Oh, games? Why in the sweet baby Jesus' name are you on MACrumors if you're a gamer? Apple cedes your kind to Dellienware. Go. Shoo. Leave the grownups alone. Some people want a "configurable" computer even though they will never have any need to configure anything (besides RAM). Niche of a niche. If you're such a geek that you want all the PCI express slots and hard drive bays and dual optical drives, get a newspaper route and bloody buy a Mac Pro. If Apple decides to release a Mac Cube, you'll be the first to know, pinky swear!
3. WWDC. D. C. ****D**** If you thought an iPhone was coming, you are certifiable.
From what I am reading, the Mac Pro seems to be the most mind-numbingly excellent computer and value to ever come out of Apple. Huge triumph. I can't wait to play with one in the stores.
And to those of you who so desperately want snazzy new consumer products, you'll always have Paris.
Yeah, at 10.24am on the MRL feed, though it was slightly ambiguous. Engadget also picked up on this but gave more detail - it's new universal applications that are being announced this week:gugy said:
10:24AM - "We had a sixth major release that we don't get much credit for. Tiger on Intel. Porting an OS is is no easy task. And our software team did a great job. They made it look really easy which has enabled this amazing transition. 86 million lines of source code that was ported to run on an entirely new architecture with zero hiccups. Along the way, we created a way to run universal applications that run on PowerPC and Intel. I'm pleased to report that there are more than 3,000 universal applications and we at Apple would like to say, thank you, thank you guys. "You guys have done a phenomenal job and there are a lot more being announced at the developer conference this week."
Is the GeForce 7300 better than the GeForce 6800 that was the high-end option with the PowerMac when Steve introduced the 30" Cinema Display?LaMerVipere said:
If so, I'm really behind on the times.
I wasn't trying to put a digg on you, you're machine is awesome, but not everyone can put down the amount of money you did and aftermarket helps. But you're super stoked nonethelss.killr_b said:I like it to show up ready to go.
Plus, I know for sure the apple chosen ram will be flawless...
This is a rev. A.
Where are the wireless antennas on the new towers? No longer external, apparently?
) Anyway, the benefit of 4-on-1-chip with Kentsfield may be mainly one of price. Which is enough to make me consider waiting, however.
And even without edu discount, still $1000 cheaper than a comparable Dell. Lame.LaMerVipere said:
It's two chips, each a dual... maybe the person meant they're waiting (as am I possibly) for "true quads," meaning 4 CPUs on one chip? That's expected (Kentsfield) by the end of the year. (But then after that, an even "truer" quad chip is expectedMacVault said:
) Anyway, the benefit of 4-on-1-chip with Kentsfield may be mainly one of price. Which is enough to make me consider waiting, however.A reasonable summationThataboy said:
A 2.66GHz CPU is about $400 more expensive than a 2.0GHz, BTO only takes $300 off, so the base config is the best choice. There is a gap, no single processor mac pro, not like Apple's sale strategy. Either Cornore mac pro or iMac will be great.Eidorian said:
No iMac update (but added expectation of one with the pro-sumer-sized 'gap' people have commented on) is good news for my wallet and my patience.
Yes. I bought a work truck for $15000 and made them give me a $100 bedliner free. The amount I'm spending has nothing to do with my desire to extract the most value for myself.
Apple ain't a charity, I want every last penny I can squeeze from our transactions.
These are PROFESSIONAL WORKSTATIONS that LOOK an awful lot like DESKTOP COMPUTERS shockingly enough.
I hear you can even buy one if you've never worked in an office.
I hear Apple's popular among 'creative types' who might work independently, even from home.
GFLPraxis said:
That is information what I am waiting for before calling it lame or excellent...
Another problem IMHO is that you now must buy a Quad config, if you want 2 HD's or a good grfx card.
Many people will pay for the 3rd and 4th core without ever using it.
I think Apple could have done with a Dual Core config (Conroe) as low-end Mac Pro machine: give the buyer the expansibility of a Pro machine, but keep the price in a pro-sumer level.
I wonder how much faster the Quad 2.66 really is than a Quad 2.5 GHz G5. Something tells me that Apple is usually rather positive regarding the new machines....
Thataboy said:
Here's other point of view: I want to use OSX in everyday use (Safari, Mail, iTunes, graphic design, Dreamweaver etc... and OSX overall). But sometimes I want to play games too, and it's awesome that nowadays it's possible to boot into Windows and play games there and then boot back into OSX. Are you saying that Apple should totally forget all users who would like to use OSX but occasionally play games on Windows, and let them buy PCs? Most of the gamers do not use their computer ONLY to play games. Consumer tower would be good for Apple to get new switchers and get more marketshare.
Sorry, I was only going to quote the relevant parts...but they're all relevant. And need to be repeated.Thataboy said:
Spiky, cool....that's my nick everywhere else but here. Couldn't help but think of Evan's Spiked Tentacles of Forced Intrusion.
Dellienware.
Ugly + Ugly = UglyAlthough, the Macbook does compete for the "most mind-numbingly excellent computer and value to ever come out of Apple."