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Mac Pro Announced

baleensavage said:
Thats a little better, but what about having a single processor $1500 model like they used to do with the G4s? If Apple really wants to build their market share, they have to realize that people often buy PCs because they can be customized and some of those people don't want $2500 computers. Not having a customizable model in the desktop lineup that is under $2000 is a bad idea.
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One of the big complaints I hear about Dell from my friends in IT that buy computers for our company (10,000+ employees) is that Dell has to many product lines and to many options. All with prices and specs that change daily.

Are you forgetting that you can buy a Mac for as low as $599.00 and it's customizable too!

People who are buying Mac Pros are not the casual shopper, who walks into an Apple store to look at the latest iPods and walk out with a computer (those people buy iMacs).
 
It's almost exactly what I was looking for. I am a student and semi-proffessional artist, the Imac didn't cut it, hd's to slow in macbook pro for video work, and only expandable to 2 gigs of ram for both. the dual 2.0 config will be perfect for running photoshop off of rossetta, FCP, after effects, solid works in bootcamp. Good pricepoint, the dual 2.0 in canadian student discount is close to 50bucks more than the old dual 2.0 OMG WTF. but I was kind of hoping for front row for those nights of book reading and listening to radiohead while stoned, so I dont have to get up if a less ambient song comes on
 
Multimedia said:
Not really significantly faster than the G5 Quad. Maybe 50% faster at best. As owner of a Quad G5 my motivation would be more about the 6 bays and the FW 800 on the front than the speed. :)
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The G5 is almost as fast per clock cycle.
Apple COULD have released quad G5 3ghz instead, but they want us to use Intel.

The whole Intel project is beacuse of no G5 laptop.

Stupid IBM. I do not like X86, the play plattform.
But, I have changed all my PPC macs to Intel now.
Macbook pro, Macbook, macmini and today a Macpro.
 
I wonder why Apple didn't include an IR port & remote with the Mac Pro? It also doesn't ship with Front Row.

It's especially odd considering Apple was touting Front Row as part of Leopard.

Hmm...

Also, if you hit the EJECT key on the keyboard while you have two optical drives installed, will they both open?

Questions, questions...
 
Just got home from work and went on line as fast as my slow PC would boot.

Lots of power, loads of expansion and 2 optical drive slots! :)p )

But still way way too expensive.

Still going to build a Core Duo 2 2.13Ghz PC, and still wishing Apple would create a computer that i want to buy.
 
wildmac said:
ITS A DEVELOPERS CONFERENCE !!!!!!!!!! NOT A GIVE-THE-WHINY-CONSUMERS-EVERYTHING-THEY-WANT-MACWORLD-CONFERENCE!!!!!!!!

Give it a rest!!!!
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Ahh! I share your sentiments completely. Developer's tools at the developers conference. Simple isn't it?

The next comsumer show is Paris in September. That's where we're likely to see the ipods and other goodies.
 
balamw said:
Core 2 Duo (Merom/Conroe) was conspicuosly absent from this Keynote.

I too hope when the consumer lineup gets Core 2 Duo that they'll fill this gap with either a high end consumer machine or a low end pro.

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It's pretty obvious what they'll be doing now. Core 2 Duo iMacs, Merom MacBook Pro's, MacBook and Mac mini stay the same.
 
bursty said:
I absolutely cannot believe airport and bluetooth are still options on the Pros. They are standard on EVERY other model. What the hell, Apple?
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A lot of these will be in a work environment where wireless networking would be a hinderance more than a help. If anything, they should bundle it with the same price and subtract 49$ if you take it off of BTO.
 
The power supply is on top like the rumor sites said it would be. This seems like a stupid design decision to me. The power cord will hang over everything else. They probably did it out of necessity, but my dual G5 is still prettier.

Also, with the move to intel, can I use the PC version of the same card?
 
SPUY767 said:
A lot of these will be in a work environment where wireless networking would be a hinderance more than a help. If anything, they should bundle it with the same price and subtract 49$ if you take it off of BTO.
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Yep. Where I work, something where an iSight, bluetooth or Airport can't be removed doesn't come in the door.
 
BRLawyer said:
And there are still people looking for a "minitower" Mac...can't we put this rumor to rest???

Headless/minitower Mac = PowerBook G5
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Don't forget... =iPhone

I still don't believe in the whole iPhone jazz.
 
The NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT is cool with me. It is actually based on the same chip the GeForce 7600 GT is, just with 4 Pixel Pipelines disabled. It should have been called the GeForce 7600 LE since it is closer to the 7600 than it is to the other 7300s, but whatever...
 
carlos700 said:
The NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT is cool with me. It is actually based on the same chip the GeForce 7600 GT is, just with 4 Pixel Pipelines disabled.
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Exactly. And here's to hoping it doesn't have a fan so it is quiet. :)
 
motulist said:
Jobs finally delivered on his 3 Ghz promise! ;) :D :D
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With the Wicked cooling system that I'm sure these beasts have. It won't be long until some fool writes a firmware patch that boosts the output up to 4G's at least.
 
My take on this whole day...

Mac Pro:
Not bad. Not bad at all. A couple gripes if you'll bear me the minute...
#1- Everything is BTO.
What is this going to do for the Apple Stores? There will no longer be a Good, Better, Best with a set price point for each.
It is almost feeling too much like a PC seller now.
BUT, I do love the fact you can purchase extra installed GPU's at the store for your model.

#2- Brand New Tech that is not backwards compatible.
I went to Apple.com to see if the new GPU's would work in my late 2005 G5 and the answer appears at this point to be no.
Same goes for the RAM from what I can tell.

#3- Abscense of an IR sensor for Front Row.
Being a professional, I use my G5 at home for work but also as the family work horse for EVERYTHING. The MacBook and iBook we have
are merely for surfing and email from the living room or while out on the road. To watch heavy web videos or movies or music, the G5
takes to the task. I keep the G5 as the home base of everything iLife related. I have 3 LCD's hooked up to and use all 3 for work and fun.

#4- Not a significant enough difference in case design.
People are still going to refer to it as the G5 or PowerMac in art departments across the country. Hell, at times I call the MacBook "iBook".


That is it for gripes. Otherwise I am very impressed with the models, but not impressed enough at this venture to part ways with my PM G5 that runs CS2 like a dream compared to my MacBook. I will hold onto this great G5 for at least another 2 years before going to the Mac Pro.

Who knows... maybe we will be at Quad-16 Core Motorola PPC chips when I'm ready to give up my PM G5!!! ;)
 
Video Card

And still..... nobody knows if you can just buy a random off the shelf nvidia 7800 and plop it into this sucker.

my powermac g4 died, but can SOMEONE, just ANYONE go into their 'system profiler' and see if they have a list of all the compatible video cards? i seem to remember you could get some information like that in the profiler or some other such app. or if you're an elite hacker, open up terminal and go to /usr/x.org or wahtever it is and see if the nvidia drivers are there.

overall excited. definitely buying a 2ghz mac pro as soon as it's in the stores.
 
Anyone specs about noise level (db) when..?:

- Sleep.
- Idle.
- Low load.
- Medium load.
- High load.
- Maximum load

Thanks.
 
fine with me...

bursty said:
I absolutely cannot believe airport and bluetooth are still options on the Pros. They are standard on EVERY other model. What the hell, Apple?
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I am very much a pro user and I very much have no use for airport or bluetooth. So I'm glad that it's not being forced on me.
 
Geez, have you seen the specs you can upgrade to.

2TB hard drive and 16000MB ram, omggfg.
 
As for prices, any word on compatibility with 3rd party Ram and internal hard drives ?
You can't possibly run a Pro rig on a meager 1 Gb of Ram, and Apple charges 1100$ for a the minimum 4 gig upgrade :rolleyes: .

Also, the new HD slots look kinda custom...

Without non-Apple options, the real price of the new desktops will make them very expensive for serious users, at least for early adopters.
 
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