Mac Pro Announced

[Dont Hurt Me]

The old Macfanclub hating the gamer , we have heard it before. There isnt any reason Macs cant game. You buy a thousand or two thousand machine it should be able to game. Mini cant.............Powermac is pure Overkill workstation. A gigantic hole for sure. Here's to the Mac gamers ! Its folks like you that have kept the fun in Mac Work Sucks edit in response to thataboy

 

[tokevino]

Here's other point of view: I want to use OSX in everyday use (Safari, Mail, iTunes, graphic design, Dreamweaver etc... and OSX overall). But sometimes I want to play games too, and it's awesome that nowadays it's possible to boot into Windows and play games there and then boot back into OSX. Are you saying that Apple should totally forget all users who would like to use OSX but occasionally play games on Windows, and let them buy PCs? Most of the gamers do not use their computer ONLY to play games. Consumer tower would be good for Apple to get new switchers and get more marketshare.

Bootcamp, how could you possibly miss that?!

 

[jaydub]

I, for one, am glad there wasn't an update to the MacBook Pro.

As for the Mac Pro, I am really impressed with everything except the video card. I haven't got the means to get one anytime soon since I just bought my MBP, but it's a great machine. The internals are really great looking.

 

[tokevino]

wwdc 2006 video is up now!

 

[treysmay]

friggin canada store isn't up yet. I want to know the canadian damn prices!!

 

[treysmay]

link?

 

[tokevino]

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/wwdc06

 

[gugy]

wwdc 2006 video is up now!

good man!

 

[ImAlwaysRight]

ITS A DEVELOPERS CONFERENCE !!!!!!!!!! NOT A GIVE-THE-WHINY-CONSUMERS-EVERYTHING-THEY-WANT-MACWORLD-CONFERENCE!!!!!!!!

Give it a rest!!!!

Do you really need a new #%&$*%^& iPod?...

Do you wnat a CPU update in your laptop weekly?...

sheesh!!!!

go buy a Dell and enjoy!!!!

And MacRumors.com is primarily a website populated by consumers, not developers. So now you know why at least.

 

[treysmay]

no frontrow?

 

[scu]

The last rumor I had read stated we would not see these machines for 5 or 6 weeks. They are available today. Glad we went to Intel.

Apple should sell a ton of these since there are those who waited for the Intel chips in the desktops. Once Photoshop comes out with the Intel version the transition is complete.

I was hoping to see some new displays but the drop in price was good news never the less.

By this time next year AAPL should be worth double

 

[nagromme]

Here's other point of view: I want to use OSX in everyday use (Safari, Mail, iTunes, graphic design, Dreamweaver etc... and OSX overall). But sometimes I want to play games too, and it's awesome that nowadays it's possible to boot into Windows and play games there and then boot back into OSX. Are you saying that Apple should totally forget all users who would like to use OSX but occasionally play games on Windows, and let them buy PCs? Most of the gamers do not use their computer ONLY to play games. Consumer tower would be good for Apple to get new switchers and get more marketshare.

I agree 100%. And I'll go one further: not only do I want to have ONE machine for work and play--a Mac--but I don't want to have to reboot, NOR buy a license for Windows

I've been buying Mac games and will continue to--and games are a big motivator for me to buy new Macs.

I don't think Apple will ignore the sub-Mac-Pro headless market forever. I think something is coming to fill the gap. I just don't know when

 

[ElGringo]

You know, I bought a dual core 2.0 G5 PowerMac a bit back for the ability to expand as needed. Since then I have added a second hard drive and NOT ONE PCIe card. Why? Because NO ONE out there makes a PCIe USB expansion card that is compatible with Deep Sleep Mode.

Maybe the new Mac Pro's will usher in some better options in this area. I don't want hubs and the subsequent extra wall warts that go with it. I want more USB prots, not more wall warts.

How long has PCIe been around in the PowerMac's and now Mac Pro's and there still isn't a solution for this????

Anyway, a bit of a sidetrack, but the new Mac Pro's do look sweet!!

 

[shompa]

Anyone drop one of these in their cart and press order yet?

Yepp.

Did order a quad 3gzh.

Estimated delivery date 11 september .

I wanted this to be the ultimate computer.
But no!

No SLI grafik.
Not even drivers for a Nvidia 7950 card.

If it had it, it would also be a good windows gaming computer.

Also, no Creative audio card.

So I still need a playstationsWindows and a work computer.

 

[wildmac]

I'm excited but disappointed at the same time.
the base video card is pretty meh.

The need a low-end option for those that aren't doing PS, Doom, or 3-D rendering...

 

[Keebler]

love it love it love it...wish i had some cash for i would plunk it down on a new one right now.

love the 4 bay internal HDs...very sweet. cost savings right there of not buying externals

processors cool

2 opticals...very nice...shows expandability to bluray in the future and/or another dvd burner.

i see posts, yet again, screaming for a mid range tower and then they argue for mid range pcs. for the price of the 2.0 processors, you can get a mac pro for just over 2 Gs.

what people quickly...so very quickly seem to forget are the intangibles such as:

increased workflow - how anyone could possibly argue that working on windows xp is faster than os x is beyond me. colour coded folders and items; expose; spotlight; drop and dragging items etc.. etc.. etc..

stability - no crashes...things run very smooth compared to a peecee world.

for anybody working on these machines, these 2 factors are HUGE. saved time = saved money = more projects done = more billable hours

i can't understand why graphic designers/ video and photo folks would want to work on a pc.. macs are the way to go.

these are intangibles which allow me to work faster, which saves me money. unfortunately, there is no up front cost associated for these so when ppl start looking at a 'lack of mid range'...they forget the additional savings and VALUE which you could say are 'built in'.

wrt to the gaming issue, from what i understand, macs are great for gaming. personally, i wouldn't own a personal computer for just one thing. that sounds pretty darn silly. i'd like it to be multi-functional. if anyone has the cash to have a machine just for gaming, they could surely afford a mac then b/c they must have some cash...

 

[gnasher729]

I thought the Woodcrest processors were unsuited for multi-processor configurations. Anyone with more info?

You got the exactly the wrong way round. Conroe can only be used in single chip/dual core configurations, Woodcrest allows dual chip/quad core.

 

[whatever]

All I can say is Apple better be coming out with a mid-range tower. Upping the baseline of the MacPro to $2500, what is that. Sure it looks like a sweet computer, but what about small businesses or starving artists who cant afford that. Now we're stuck with the all-in-ones.

A small business that can't afford the low end MacPro at $2,124.00 should really take a good look at there business plan (it sounds more like a hobby than a business). A starving artist should invest their money on developing some new skills, so that they're not starving (I guess art just isn't it for them).

These a PRO machines! If you can't afford them, then you should be looking at the iMac, a Mac Mini or shopping on eBay for a used computer.

The price points are perfect.

And for those people still whining about a mini-tower I have a suggestion for you. Try holding your breath until the announcement. That way we won't have to hear from you any more.

I'm just wondering why adding an Airport or a different video card changes the estimate ship time from 3 to 5 business days to 3 to 5 weeks. Does it really take that long to open a box?

 

[glassbathroom]

Just ordered a 3.0 GHz Mac Pro.

I didn't bother with the Airport Card as this seemed to make the order time jump to 3-5 weeks! Estimated ship date - 14th August.

 

[Loge]

SO in the Paris expo is where we'll most likely see updated MBP?

They don't need a special event for what will most likely just be an updated processor.

 

[shompa]

Nice!!! Most likely you made a wise decision to purchase your addional RAM and HD from a third party. Apple requires arms and legs for their optional upgrades.

FB Dimms ECC are really expensive.

Anyone knows where to get them cheaper?

I plan to use 4 gig FBdimm 4x1024
and 4 750 gig disks.

Then Bittorrent wont be slow!

 

[Dont Hurt Me]

ProMac is a workstation, Consumer is still king though and I suspect something new the next few months because Mini aint enough and ProMac is a beast. Still waiting for my Cube Jobs

 

[Keebler]

Heres a funny idea, dont put words in peoples mouths. Why do you just assume people dont want a mini because they want to play games? And who the hell do you think you are thinking people want PCI slots only to never use them? Instead of acting like some rich pompous ass you could actually listen to what people need and not assume things based on your secluded little fantasy world where everything is wrong unless it revolves around you. There are a lot of 2D designers/artists, iMacs are not suffecient for obvious reasons and Mac Minis arent either, a Mac Pro is their only option and its a HUGE waste of power and money. Anyone who thinks a quad Xeon will somehow help a 2D worker in Photoshop is an idiot, Photoshop/Illustrator has been absolutely fine for years as long as you have enough ram. The fact is that Apple gave no option for a reasonable proffessional computer, they only gave us an extravagent workstation more suited for professional 3D and video editting. Why the hell should people have to pay several hundred dollars more for things they wont use? Before you run your mouth you need to think about what OTHER people need rather than whatever grand delusions youve come up with about yourself.

i completely disagree that it's a waste of money for 2d folks.

stability and increased speed of workflow...ie. being able to do things faster and smarter, saves ppl time and that means saves them money and helps them earn more. anyone in that biz, who doesn't want to spend a couple of extra hundred dollars for those reasons which unfortunately don't have an 'upfront' price tag, should rethink their career path.

i can't put a number to it, but i know i save plenty of time working on my macs compared to my pc. things just work faster, smarter and they rarely crash on my macs. now, when i work on my pc...i scream at it..."Why won't you do this!!!! or that!!!! or i hit the wrong keys expecting expose to kick in...instead of i have to click a window there..and there.. etc. .etc..

those are intangibles which people forget. they are truly important.

 

[Multimedia]

Nice Touch Making It All Quad Core - A Great Value But...

Not really significantly faster than the G5 Quad. Maybe 50% faster at best. As owner of a Quad G5 my motivation would be more about the 6 bays and the FW 800 and extra USB 2 port on the front than the speed. Not worth the extra money to go 3GHz - 33% more money for 12% more speed doesn't make economic sense. Need 8 cores inside.

 

[shompa]

Are these specific Mac GPU's with Mac roms or can we finally use a selection of PC GPU's? If so then the base GPU isn't an issue, just use it for the second screen.

what will happen if I use bootcamp and put in a PC grafic card?