I don't know about that... It is a Gen 1 Apple product after all. If I was in the market for one of these for professional use, I would at least wait for Rev 2 before dropping $52k on it. I mean we've already waited this long!
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I don't know about that... It is a Gen 1 Apple product after all. If I was in the market for one of these for professional use, I would at least wait for Rev 2 before dropping $52k on it. I mean we've already waited this long!
But wait, don't forget your wheels at $100.00 a pop and the fancy $1,000 stand ... oh wait this computer is not for you
Same, the GPU upgrade prices are really odd. It also seems like nickel-and-diming to charge another $50 for trackpad and keyboard options. Yes, those are peanuts compared to the cost, but their also peanuts compared to the cost. You can afford to be a little generous here Apple. Ah, well. Aside from TB2 and USB-A vs USB-C my 2013 Mac Pro is actually still doing great for what pays the bills so this is not a system I'm every likely to buy.
MKBHD did an unboxing already
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But to be fair guys, speccing and equal Dell workstation, is way more expensive... and not even having the After Burner or same Gpu compute power included..
Perhaps I'm just getting old, but it seems to me that unless one is in a production environment or in a scientific endeavor requiring extreme desktop computation, these new pro models are over-priced, over-kill trophies unaffordable to the vast Mac user base.
These models, especially when upgraded, are niche machines which will do nothing to reverse the trend of declining desktop sales. I would, however, like to see Apple make a commitment to Mac users that continues to improve their computing experience at a cost more closely commensurate with other available systems. That seems not too much to ask. The iMac Pro models, if not similarly overpriced, would have been the perfect basis for most power-users (Mac and PC) to take notice. The incremental speed and functionality improvements of the main Mac line have slowed. What has not slowed is the escalation in pricing.
Don't get me wrong... I have been a Mac user since 1987 and have enjoyed the evolutionary improvements of the Mac and its OS. I have also seen the diminution of financial importance of Mac vis a vis the iPhone for Apple. That will not be reversed. If Apple wishes to remain a significant computer manufacturer it must expand its base. To do so it must take a more realistic approach to its pricing.
These models, especially when upgraded, are niche machines which will do nothing to reverse the trend of declining desktop sales. I would, however, like to see Apple make a commitment to Mac users that continues to improve their computing experience at a cost more closely commensurate with other available systems. That seems not too much to ask. The iMac Pro models, if not similarly overpriced, would have been the perfect basis for most power-users (Mac and PC) to take notice. The incremental speed and functionality improvements of the main Mac line have slowed. What has not slowed is the escalation in pricing.
Don't get me wrong... I have been a Mac user since 1987 and have enjoyed the evolutionary improvements of the Mac and its OS. I have also seen the diminution of financial importance of Mac vis a vis the iPhone for Apple. That will not be reversed. If Apple wishes to remain a significant computer manufacturer it must expand its base. To do so it must take a more realistic approach to its pricing.
Everyone seems to be forgetting the mantra of buying a mac tower: Upgrade it yourself.
The CPU, GPU, Storage and Ram are all upgradable. buying the machine is smart. Paying apple to install stuff is NOT.
The CPU, GPU, Storage and Ram are all upgradable. buying the machine is smart. Paying apple to install stuff is NOT.
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CPU, Storage, RAM and GPU all upgradable. The only sh*tty thing is you can't buy it totally bare bones but that's exactly why the base model has such a small SSD.
Nope... that's exactly what these are! Nobody's saying they're not awesome computers they'd love to own. But at this price point? It's literally priced out of reach of most computer enthusiasts or avid users who'd enjoy it in the first place.
I did purchase the "base" configuration of the new iMac Pro when it came out, because Micro Center stores were selling them at $1,000 discounts for a limited time and that was too good to pass up. Not only that, but AppleCare+ on them was really cost-effective, since Apple didn't create a new tier of AppleCare for the iMac Pro. They just let you cover it with the same tier any other iMac used!
For what I do, the iMac Pro is plenty powerful enough (and I've been complaining ever since owning a Mac about the lack of GPU power in them). I just would have preferred to buy something like it in a "headless" tower version. Thankfully, the 5K display in it is so good, I'm not left feeling like I'm compromising by using it.
It seems to me like Apple really just wanted to make a point with the new Mac Pro, that for the crowd who says "price is no object" and felt Apple couldn't give them what they wanted -- they were wrong. That's well and good, but it means they've done nothing to move things forward for the rest of the Mac community. Most of us will never actually use one of these for another 5 years or so, when used ones start popping up at huge discounts.
I did purchase the "base" configuration of the new iMac Pro when it came out, because Micro Center stores were selling them at $1,000 discounts for a limited time and that was too good to pass up. Not only that, but AppleCare+ on them was really cost-effective, since Apple didn't create a new tier of AppleCare for the iMac Pro. They just let you cover it with the same tier any other iMac used!
For what I do, the iMac Pro is plenty powerful enough (and I've been complaining ever since owning a Mac about the lack of GPU power in them). I just would have preferred to buy something like it in a "headless" tower version. Thankfully, the 5K display in it is so good, I'm not left feeling like I'm compromising by using it.
It seems to me like Apple really just wanted to make a point with the new Mac Pro, that for the crowd who says "price is no object" and felt Apple couldn't give them what they wanted -- they were wrong. That's well and good, but it means they've done nothing to move things forward for the rest of the Mac community. Most of us will never actually use one of these for another 5 years or so, when used ones start popping up at huge discounts.
Well, I got a new definition of "keep dreaming"...
Just configured one I would have bought giving reasonable options etc....
Price is > 2x I could pay.
Does get you thinking... give yourself a budget of about $ 6000 and configure a PC with it. See how far you get with getting the hardware you want.
Just configured one I would have bought giving reasonable options etc....
Price is > 2x I could pay.
Does get you thinking... give yourself a budget of about $ 6000 and configure a PC with it. See how far you get with getting the hardware you want.
Eagerly awaiting the first fool to buy one (complete with XDR monitor) and then throw it out a 3rd floor window (live on youtube) to "see how it survives a drop test".
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This. The "cheese grater" Mac Pros were "Pro" machines, that a wide range of "Pro" users could afford. With the new Mac Pro, Apple turned everything up to 11, and it's an amazing machine, and they'll sell well into companies that really need all that horsepower (for rendering and whatnot), but there's a substantial segment of the old market that isn't served by this generation of Mac Pro. Which is a little sad (there was a long time when I a cheese grater Mac Pro under my desk at work). But, heck, I'm gonna get a MBP 16 and be extremely pleased, because it'll serve all my computing needs fabulously, and I can carry it around.
The plain fact of the matter is somebody will order the maxed out version and not think twice about it/
May I suggest you get the Mac Pro with wheels for that, you know, for the quick get away? Worth the extra, for your use case...
In all seriousness, this is a seriously nice machine, I personally have no need for it though. I really like the display (and dislike the price
), but I'm more than happy with an LG 5K at the moment.
$50 bucks a month is too steep for you? For a computer you're more than likely have for literally about a decade? If you're making a living with this stuff, the price is completely reasonable. One job can pay for this pretty easy. I'm talking about price range of $6000-12000.